Blame game - Who's fault is it?

[Coreeece 2]

RonD1120

******It amuses me, these critics can't seem to grasp the reason why the majority of the radio listeners and TV watchers choose the way they do.

They do it because it's more comfortable to listen to lies you agree with than truths lies that you disagree with.

IMO

I'd even go a bit further and replace "lies/truth" with "spin" - neither side has a monopoly on that.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[RonD1120 62]

Coreeece

*********It amuses me, these critics can't seem to grasp the reason why the majority of the radio listeners and TV watchers choose the way they do.

They do it because it's more comfortable to listen to lies you agree with than truths lies that you disagree with.

IMO

I'd even go a bit further and replace "lies/truth" with "spin" - neither side has a monopoly on that.

Amen to that. The only thing that has remained constant in my life is the Bible. As difficult as it is for complete understanding, the gospel message is the same yesterday, today and forever. It makes it easy for me to shine on all the rest.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

RonD1120

It amuses me, these critics can't seem to grasp the reason why the majority of the radio listeners and TV watchers choose the way they do.

Because they want to hear what they already believe in, as opposed to anything resembling truth or fact.

[gowlerk 2,277]

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Amen to that. The only thing that has remained constant in my life is the Bible. As difficult as it is for complete understanding, the gospel message is the same yesterday, today and forever. It makes it easy for me to shine on all the rest.

That one made me chuckle. Both the meaning and the text of the Bible has been twisted, spun, changed, mistranslated, misspoken, abused, and used to advance every cause good and bad imaginable for as long as it has existed.

It is actually good that you find it a constant in your life, but that is only because you have chosen to make it so. The reason you sometimes find it difficult to completely understand it, is that it's meaning changes to meet your needs. Even in your own life your understanding of it has changed. That's because every time you are troubled you go looking in it and search until you find the words needed to affirm what you have already decided is the truth. Then you tell yourself that the Bible tells you so.

The Bible is wonderful. It is everything to everyone. Whatever you need you will find it there. So what if someone else finds the opposite of what you found? You can just tell yourself that they are reading it wrong!

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[turtlespeed 226]

RonD1120

************It amuses me, these critics can't seem to grasp the reason why the majority of the radio listeners and TV watchers choose the way they do.

They do it because it's more comfortable to listen to lies you agree with than truths lies that you disagree with.

IMO

I'd even go a bit further and replace "lies/truth" with "spin" - neither side has a monopoly on that.

Amen to that. The only thing that has remained constant in my life is the Bible. As difficult as it is for complete understanding, the gospel message is the same yesterday, today and forever. It makes it easy for me to shine on all the rest.

The ONLY thing?
How is the bible even remotely constant?

Which version did you start with and which one do you have now?
How many versions do you own?
How many versions have you used in different churches?
How many versions are available and how do you know which version is correct?

Other than being a constant example of hypocrisy and change and variation, what constant is there?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rehmwa 2]

Thread summary -

"Who's fault is it?"

multiple posts - "the other guys"

multiple pages - pissing contest. degeneration into the same stuff as always - lots of PAs

obscurity

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[turtlespeed 226]

rehmwa

Thread summary -

"Who's fault is it?"

multiple posts - "the other guys"

multiple pages - pissing contest. degeneration into the same stuff as always - lots of PAs

obscurity

Not really true. There have been some definitive claims; Kallend, Myself, Quade (I think), but with no definitive substantive proof. Just opinions.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[normiss 898]

It appears they have come to the conclusion that the man-made god is at fault.

[RonD1120 62]

See my post #25 this thread.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RonD1120 62]

It gives me peace of mind. That is really all that I need.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[turtlespeed 226]

RonD1120

It gives me peace of mind. That is really all that I need.

Truth, logic, and reality be damned then.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[RonD1120 62]

I experience truth, logic and reality in my world. Oh, and common sense as well.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[gowlerk 2,277]

turtlespeed

I believe that between the Bush admin and Obama admin that the existence of Trump as a candidate is a mix between the Clintons and the Bush's administrations.

What say you?

Oh, and mostly just Hillary.

Oh yeah, the OP. My feeling is that presidents get way too much credit and blame for the circumstances the US finds itself it. Your government is largely reactionary, and modern communication is what is driving the change to a global economy. At the same time demographic shifts are causing tensions between groups vying for power in society.

Into this fissure steps Trump. Frustrated people are willing to overlook his flaws because they want something different and that desire is stronger than their fear that he may take the country off the rails.

Personally I feel he is too unpredictable to take a chance on. But I don't have a vote. Which is good because it means I don't have to make a decision.

Who's fault is it? It's the voter's fault, they put him where he is. Not the media, not the establishment, not any administration. He said the words that those people wanted to hear. Many ugly mean spirited words, and those people voted for him anyway. It's their fault, not Bush, Clinton , or Obama. The decision was made by people who approve of Trump's message. Hopefully the larger US voter community will make a very different decision in November.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rehmwa 2]

turtlespeed

***Thread summary -

"Who's fault is it?"

multiple posts - "the other guys"

multiple pages - pissing contest. degeneration into the same stuff as always - lots of PAs

obscurity

Not really true. There have been some definitive claims; Kallend, Myself, Quade (I think), but with no definitive substantive proof. Just opinions.


patience young turtle, patience

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Coreeece 2]

turtlespeed

How many versions are available and how do you know which version is correct?

There are a lot of translations but they all pretty much say the same thing, right?

If you can provide the same verse from two different translations that appear to contradict each other, then I'll do my best to explain which one I believe is correct and why.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[quade 4]

Can we get back on topic and off the bible stuff?

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[normiss 898]

Good luck with that.

[turtlespeed 226]

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Coreeece 2]

I'm guessing you deleted your post due to quade's request. I'll either send you a PM or start a new thread addressing your problem.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[Coreeece 2]

quade

Can we get back on topic

Fine, go ahead, please, continue - blame, blame, blame away. . .

. . .and don't forget to throw in a few more PAs for dramatic effect.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[turtlespeed 226]

Coreeece

I'm guessing you deleted your post due to quade's request. I'll either send you a PM or start a new thread addressing your problem.

I already started one -

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rushmc 23]

quade

***Damn, free speech strikes again. . .

You're missing the point, as usual.

Free Speech is fine. Hogging the mic on a 50,000 watt clear channel station is something a little different. Monopolizing the airwaves with a network of such stations all controlled by the same interest is even worse.

With the Fairness Doctrine, Free Speech was available to all. Without it, it's available to those with the capitol to invest in media companies. It's no longer free for all. Only free to the oligarchy.

Hogging the mike????

Funny shit Paul

Liberal hosts have tried to do what Rush has
They failed because of the bs they spout

Free speech is available to all
But you want mandated, regulated, controlled free speech.

How wonderful would that be.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

On a side note
Do you know that CNN has had a bigger cable audience than FOX has had for the last two months????

Know why that is?

Because they became Trump central for his campaign and people left in droves

Seems free speech is working just fine without the gov sticking their asses into it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Coreeece

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Monopolizing the airwaves

Liberal media, TV, movies, Hollywood, advertising, etc. . .

You're being utterly biased - as usual.

Ya
He does not realize the CBS, NBC, ABC still are the monopolies when combined

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[RonD1120 62]

gowlerk

***I believe that between the Bush admin and Obama admin that the existence of Trump as a candidate is a mix between the Clintons and the Bush's administrations.

What say you?

Oh, and mostly just Hillary.

Into this fissure steps Trump. Frustrated people are willing to overlook his flaws because they want something different and that desire is stronger than their fear that he may take the country off the rails.



We are already off the rails as a republic. I just hope he can steer the country down a dirt road until we get to the next rail crossing and then get back on the rails.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.