Confessions of a Republican - 1964

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Listen to this and change the name Goldwater to Trump. Just do it.

https://youtu.be/LiG0AE8zdTU

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[headoverheels 334]

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Listen to this and change the name Goldwater to Trump. Just do it.

https://youtu.be/LiG0AE8zdTU

Did you see the interview with him, I think 2 nights ago? Pretty interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LenXJHccBSw

[ryoder 1,590]

Going from memory here of an interview with P.J. O'Rourke:

"In 1964 I was going to vote for Goldwater but all my friends were warning me:

'Don't vote for Goldwater! If you do, we'll have war!'

Well, I didn't listen, and voted for him anyway, and sure enough, we had war."

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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There are wars and then there are nuclear wars.

Goldwater and his advisors were promoting the idea of escalating the cold war into a nuclear one. Okay, promoting is maybe a bit too strong of a word, but it did seem awfully attractive to Goldwater to be able to "press a button and wipe out 300 million people before sun down."

Vietnam, while horrible, was nothing compared to what Goldwater and crew were talking about.

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[Coreeece 2]

Ya, ya - it's uncanny. I wonder how it would go over today if Hillary got some no-name republican to talk shit about Trump whille lighting a cigarette and smoking it with his legs crossed at 3 minutes into a televised campaign message. . .

...anyway, the guy seemed sincere, but it was obviously scripted BS.

For the fist time, it's nice to see history repeating itself however - It gives me hope that shit really ain't as bad as we think. It's only as bad as it's always been - and thats a good thing.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[RonD1120 62]

1964 I was in the USAF. We were conducting SpecOps into Vietnam. It was my first opportunity to vote and I chose Sen/BGEN Barry Goldwater. Many of my fellow Commandos said I was crazy. They said that Goldwater would get us into a full blown war in Vietnam.

Well, we got a liberal Democrat and we know how that turned out.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[gowlerk 2,275]

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For the fist time, it's nice to see history repeating itself however - It gives me hope that shit really ain't as bad as we think. It's only as bad as it's always been - and thats a good thing.

True dat. It's something we should all keep in mind. A good perspective.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rushmc 23]

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There are wars and then there are nuclear wars.

Goldwater and his advisors were promoting the idea of escalating the cold war into a nuclear one. Okay, promoting is maybe a bit too strong of a word, but it did seem awfully attractive to Goldwater to be able to "press a button and wipe out 300 million people before sun down."

Vietnam, while horrible, was nothing compared to what Goldwater and crew were talking about.

Not much different than what is happening under Obama right now.
???Really?

A co-worker of mine is in the National Guard. His unit has been called up to go back into the Middle East (this Decemeber) to rebuild the military camps that have been torn down by locals and time.

Reason?

To re-deploy troops (that never should have left)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

What part of the Middle East? We still have troops all over the region.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

What part of the Middle East? We still have troops all over the region.

They are starting I Kuwait.

Then well be rebuilding bases in Iran, and Syria for starters

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,595]

rushmc

Then well be rebuilding bases in Iran,

Do you want to try that one again?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

jakee

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Then well be rebuilding bases in Iran,

Do you want to try that one again?

You know what I meant....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,595]

rushmc

A co-worker of mine is in the National Guard. His unit has been called up to go back into the Middle East (this Decemeber) to rebuild the military camps that have been torn down by locals and time.

Reason?

To re-deploy troops (that never should have left)

A) Assuming you're talking about Iraq that's Bush's fault, not Obama's. Both that they were there in the first place and that they left.

B) it wouldn't matter who was President for that sort of stuff to happen, the military industrial complex marches on. If the bases don't get abandoned no-one gets a cost-plus contract to rebuild them, and we can't have that!

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[DanG 1]

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They are starting I Kuwait.

We have had a strong military presence in Kuwait for decades. That hasn't significantly changed under Obama.

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Then well be rebuilding bases in Iran, and Syria for starters

Obviously you meant Iraq. The question is, are they rebuilding bases or just maintaining bases, and who are they building/maintaining them for? Are you saying that you have inside knowledge of a significant US military buildup in Iraq? Are we reinvading and only you and your NG neighbor know about it?

And Syria. Really? He's going into Syria to rebuild US military bases that have been neglected because the US ground troops in Syria were pulled out too early? You might want to check your facts.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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They are starting I Kuwait.

We have had a strong military presence in Kuwait for decades. That hasn't significantly changed under Obama.

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Then well be rebuilding bases in Iran, and Syria for starters

Obviously you meant Iraq. The question is, are they rebuilding bases or just maintaining bases, and who are they building/maintaining them for? Are you saying that you have inside knowledge of a significant US military buildup in Iraq? Are we reinvading and only you and your NG neighbor know about it?

And Syria. Really? He's going into Syria to rebuild US military bases that have been neglected because the US ground troops in Syria were pulled out too early? You might want to check your facts.

You are correct about Kuwait
They will stage from them there
Iraq = rebuild
Syria= new

He leaves in Nov.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

I very much doubt he has been given any detailed information about where they are going to be building anything. He has probably received a warning order that they may end up in various countries. If you think the DoD is disseminating down to individual National Guardsmen in May that they are planning to have ground troops in Syria next year, I don't think you understand how military planning works.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

I very much doubt he has been given any detailed information about where they are going to be building anything. He has probably received a warning order that they may end up in various countries. If you think the DoD is disseminating down to individual National Guardsmen in May that they are planning to have ground troops in Syria next year, I don't think you understand how military planning works.

I know what you are saying

But one this is for sure
He is being redeployed and he is going to Kuwait

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

***I very much doubt he has been given any detailed information about where they are going to be building anything. He has probably received a warning order that they may end up in various countries. If you think the DoD is disseminating down to individual National Guardsmen in May that they are planning to have ground troops in Syria next year, I don't think you understand how military planning works.

I know what you are saying

But one this is for sure
He is being redeployed and he is going to Kuwait

You're having a harder time than usual with your "facts" this morning.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DanG 1]

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But one this is for sure
He is being redeployed and he is going to Kuwait

I have no doubt about that.

What I doubt is that he knows he is going to end up in Iraq and Syria. Especially Syria. He may have been told that by his chain of command, but that doesn't make it correct.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

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But one this is for sure
He is being redeployed and he is going to Kuwait

I have no doubt about that.

What I doubt is that he knows he is going to end up in Iraq and Syria. Especially Syria. He may have been told that by his chain of command, but that doesn't make it correct.

time will tell but
He was correct about his last deployment

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,595]

rushmc

You are correct about Kuwait
They will stage from them there
Iraq = rebuild
Syria= new

He leaves in Nov.

So hang on a minute - by the time they've built anything in Kuwait there will be a whole new President in office with a whole new set of strategies and yet he already knows what the long term game plan is?

Further, would this as yet unannounced new game plan be considered somewhat confidential? Is it the sort of thing that would be unveiled to the world through hearsay froma neighbour on a web forum rather than in a White House press briefing?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[JerryBaumchen 1,467]

Hi rush,

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You are correct about Kuwait
They will stage from them there
Iraq = rebuild
Syria= new

Since you are able to see into the future, how about giving me this Sat's winning PowerBall numbers? If I win, I'll give you 10%.

Jerry Baumchen

[rushmc 23]

JerryBaumchen

Hi rush,

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You are correct about Kuwait
They will stage from them there
Iraq = rebuild
Syria= new

Since you are able to see into the future, how about giving me this Sat's winning PowerBall numbers? If I win, I'll give you 10%.

Jerry Baumchen

LOL

Not seeing anything
Just passing things along

Oh

If I could see those numbers you would be among the last I MIGHT give them to

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln