For all of you with a "government does everything" fetish

[brenthutch 444]

https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1058073380902184/
Anticipating the ad hominem attacks on the speaker.

[quade 4]

The government can't do everything, nor should it.
Private individuals can't do everything, nor should they.

Civilization is a collective effort regardless of what anyone says. And yes, I used the word "collective" on purpose just to annoy the Randians.

If you don't like civilization and instead choose to live on your own private island in the ocean, go for it. Nobody is stopping you.

As for governments giving ambitious start up companies money . . . you DO realize that's how the northern continent was settled, yes? That before there were 13 colonies, there were companies financed by a government solely for the purpose of extracting as much wealth out of the new continent as possible.

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[brenthutch 444]

quade

The government can't do everything, nor should it.
Private individuals can't do everything, nor should they.

That is my position as well. Government has a vital role to play. It's role is spelled out in this thing I like to call the Constitution, "good and welfare clause" notwithstanding.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0VYOa2BRbg&autoplay=1

[brenthutch 444]

quade

As for governments giving ambitious start-up companies money . . . you DO realize that's how the northern continent was settled, yes? That before there were 13 colonies, there were companies financed by a government solely for the purpose of extracting as much wealth our of the new continent as possible.

Extracting wealth for whose benefit? Certainly not for the common good. You are making my point. At the confluence of money and government resides corruption.

[billvon 3,120]

> It's role is spelled out in this thing I like to call the Constitution, "good and welfare
>clause" notwithstanding.

It's actually the "promote the general welfare" clause, and it is called out as one of the duties of the legislature.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

> It's role is spelled out in this thing I like to call the Constitution, "good and welfare
>clause" notwithstanding.

It's actually the "promote the general welfare" clause, and it is called out as one of the duties of the legislature.

the second most bastardizes clause in the Constitution

Because the courts have ignored the enumerated powers clause to do it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jcd11235 0]

rushmc

Because the courts have ignored the enumerated powers clause to do it

Providing for the general welfare of the United States is an enumerated power of Congress. The Courts haven't ignored Article 1, Section 8.

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[rushmc 23]

http://www.shmoop.com/constitution/article-1-section-8.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,120]

>Because the courts have ignored the enumerated powers clause to do it

Promoting the general welfare is one of the enumerated powers that the Constitution calls out. It's one of the things that Congress is required to do. (I know "don't do your job" is the new slogan of the GOP, but still . . . . it's in there.)

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>Because the courts have ignored the enumerated powers clause to do it

Promoting the general welfare is one of the enumerated powers that the Constitution calls out. It's one of the things that Congress is required to do. (I know "don't do your job" is the new slogan of the GOP, but still . . . . it's in there.)

I know it is in there
The point, that you choose to miss, is it has been bastardized by the left to say it means things it was never intended to.

And BTW, the LESS government does today, the better off we are.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,120]

>The point, that you choose to miss, is it has been bastardized by the left to say it means things
>it was never intended to.

I agree - that phrase has been bastardized by the left AND the right to justify their actions.

>And BTW, the LESS government does today, the better off we are.

Depends on what the issue is. You were pretty gung-ho about the various wars they fought over the past ten years.