rushmc 23 #251 July 27, 2016 jakeeQuoteThe grand jury proceeded illegally . This so called technicality jakee is hanging his butt on is that technicality. That's one charge. (And it's not the technicality I'm hanging my ass on, it's a technicality that you and Daleiden are hanging your asses on. Without it he would be facing conviction because his actions ref the DL were illegal.) But you're ignoring the other charge. The one that was dismissed because Daleiden and his team convinced the judge that the video did not show them doing anything other than perfectly legally offering to cover PPs costs in fetal organ procurement. So why don't you address that head on - if the video doesn't show Daleiden making an illegal offer then how can it show PP accepting one? As pointed out earlier in this thread Here, in the US, an offer is NOT illegal! Just like a drug sting, the buyer must take hand over money AND take possession. the video shows PP was willing to sell parts so at that point they did nothing illegal either. The undercover video shows they were willing. That is the point!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #252 July 27, 2016 QuoteAs pointed out earlier in this thread Here, in the US, an offer is NOT illegal! Just like a drug sting, the buyer must take hand over money AND take possession. Yes, you wrongly pointed that out earlier. You were told you were wrong, and now, predictably, you're back here spouting the same wrongness now. Fetuses aren't drugs. Besides, that's completely irrelevant because according to your own link that was not the reason that Daleiden's charges were dropped. According to your own link Daleiden's charges were dropped because it could not be shown that the offer he made was for anything other than the perfectly legal covering of PPs expenses. Quotethe video shows PP was willing to sell parts so at that point they did nothing illegal either. According to Daleiden's own defence, the video showed that PP was willing to accept the perfectly legal reimbursement of their expenses. So they did nothing illegal then, nor would they have in future if the deal had been real. QuoteThe undercover video shows they were willing. According to Daleiden, according to the court ruling, and according to your own source the undercover video shows that they were willing to to participate in a perfectly legal transaction, involving supply of fetal tissue in return for reimbursement of legitimate costs incurred. That is why Daleidens charge was dropped.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #253 July 27, 2016 Before arguing anything with rushmc you need to take a look at the source he uses for forming his opinions.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 896 #254 July 27, 2016 It's interesting that solicitation to commit a crime doesn't exist in Rush land. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #255 July 27, 2016 >The whole process was in question from the beginning and it finally caught up with them. Like I said, at one point you were chortling happily over how bad Planned Parenthood would be screwed by the videos. Now the best you can do is say "see? The guys who made the video won't be prosecuted! And the prosecutors were really mean." Meanwhile Planned Parenthood is winning court cases and preventing governments from shutting them down. Good outcome in my book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #256 July 28, 2016 rushmc As pointed out earlier in this thread Here, in the US, an offer is NOT illegal! Just like a drug sting, the buyer must take hand over money AND take possession. Unless it's a guy who arranges to meet someone pretending to be underage and brings rubbers. He's arrested on arrival. Or as others noted, any form of solicitation results in an arrest before sex occurs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,468 #257 July 28, 2016 Hi rush, Quote Here, in the US, an offer is NOT illegal! Your all-encompassing statement is not correct. Each state has it's own laws. A high school classmate spent 9 yrs in prison, here in Oregon, for verbally accepting an offer to kill a husband. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #258 July 28, 2016 JerryBaumchen Hi rush, Quote Here, in the US, an offer is NOT illegal! Your all-encompassing statement is not correct. Each state has it's own laws. A high school classmate spent 9 yrs in prison, here in Oregon, for verbally accepting an offer to kill a husband. Jerry Baumchen You are correct But my statement was limited to drug purchases and relating that to buying body parts. What you list is much different."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #260 July 28, 2016 normiss LOL LOL Still don't get it "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 896 #261 July 28, 2016 We know, it's entirely obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
