Cruz versus Sanders

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kallend

"Ted Cruz has two accomplishments in the Senate: the government shutdown and getting 98 of 100 senators to dislike him to varying degrees,"; Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA)

I don't like Cruz - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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rehmwa

***"Ted Cruz has two accomplishments in the Senate: the government shutdown and getting 98 of 100 senators to dislike him to varying degrees,"; Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA)

I don't like Cruz - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

I don't like Dent - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

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ryoder

Yes, I'm learning a lot about the party nominating processes that somehow had never come to my attention in the past. I had heard the term "superdelegates," but it just sailed by unnoticed.

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headoverheels

******"Ted Cruz has two accomplishments in the Senate: the government shutdown and getting 98 of 100 senators to dislike him to varying degrees,"; Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA)

I don't like Cruz - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

I don't like Dent - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

It can be both. But in the end, it's a good quote

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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rehmwa

*********"Ted Cruz has two accomplishments in the Senate: the government shutdown and getting 98 of 100 senators to dislike him to varying degrees,"; Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA)

I don't like Cruz - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

I don't like Dent - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

It can be both. But in the end, it's a good quote

Harvey Dent has a good side to him.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[billvon 3,114]

>I don't like Dent

Neither does Batman.

[skycop 0]

30 years ago I was climbing over nuclear weapons pointed at them, now there is a distinct possibility we may elect one.
Ain't America great!

Mattis 2016

"Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!"

[Phil1111 1,176]

rehmwa

***"Ted Cruz has two accomplishments in the Senate: the government shutdown and getting 98 of 100 senators to dislike him to varying degrees,"; Rep. Charlie Dent (R-PA)

I don't like Cruz - but this quote alone makes me chuckle and maybe dislike him a little less.

Well he is protecting American bedrooms!

"AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Defending a Texas state law banning the sale of sex toys, Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz argued in a 2007 court brief that individuals have no legal right to use them, even in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

Prior to becoming a U.S. senator, Cruz was for more than five years Texas' solicitor general, arguing the state's legal positions in court. He often cites that experience to burnish his credentials as a Christian conservative.

On the campaign trail, Cruz frequently reminds audiences that he used the job to defend capital punishment and oppose abortion, while preserving the words "Under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and defending a monument to the Ten Commandments on the state Capitol grounds."
http://www.valleymorningstar.com/news/elections/article_3f54c005-4fb7-56e9-ad09-569a1bc4ed7b.html

TrustTed to protect your bedrooms from sea to shining sea.

[kallend 2,147]

Poor Lyin' Ted.

Sent out a fundraising email whining about how hard it is to campaign for president.

As Sen. Warren aptly said, "boo hoo".

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

Poor Lyin' Ted.

Sent out a fundraising email whining about how hard it is to campaign for president.

As Sen. Warren aptly said, "boo hoo".

He isn't doing very well in the NY primaries tonight: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/new-york

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[gowlerk 2,275]

No surprise there. He pretty much lets it be known that he hates New York. I think the feeling is mutual.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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I guess thats it for Sanders and Cruz?

Some good points?
Bernie Supporter VS. Fox News' Neil Cavuto on Million Student March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNbPuFfvnkA

[normiss 893]

Did Ted find out who the baby daddy was yesterday?

They only tested 5 men though.....

[kallend 2,147]

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I guess thats it for Sanders and Cruz?

Some good points?
Bernie Supporter VS. Fox News' Neil Cavuto on Million Student March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNbPuFfvnkA

A lot of Bernie supporters are grumbling about the exclusion of independents in the NY primary. While I like Bernie, and the following is not restricted to New York:

Why should anyone who is not a member of an organization be allowed to have a voice in that organization's affairs? Want to vote in US elections, then become a citizen. Want to help choose a corporation's BOD, then become a stockholder. Want to help choose a party's candidate, then join the party.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DanG 1]

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Why should anyone who is not a member of an organization be allowed to have a voice in that organization's affairs? Want to vote in US elections, then become a citizen. Want to help choose a corporation's BOD, then become a stockholder. Want to help choose a party's candidate, then join the party.

I agree, but I disagree with the fact that the taxpayers fund these activities as if they were public functions.

- Dan G

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

Hi John,

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Want to help choose a party's candidate, then join the party.

For the vast majority of my life, I was in complete agreement.

However, I would prefer to get rid of all political parties. You want on the ballot for any particular state; then meet the req'ments and get on the ballot, but without being recognized as being an R or D or whatever.

Nebraska has a unicameral legislature and it seems to work for them. And, yes I know those are not nation-wide contests.

Jerry Baumchen

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kallend

A lot of Bernie supporters are grumbling about the exclusion of independents in the NY primary. While I like Bernie, and the following is not restricted to New York:

Why should anyone who is not a member of an organization be allowed to have a voice in that organization's affairs? Want to vote in US elections, then become a citizen. Want to help choose a corporation's BOD, then become a stockholder. Want to help choose a party's candidate, then join the party.

Show me where in the constitution it says I must belong to a party in order to have a voice in elections. Show me where in the constitution where it says a pair of private parties are entitled to operate a duopoly designed to exclude any other parties, and stop independent voters from exercising their right to participate in elections.

*I* decide who I want to vote for, and I cast my votes on the *person*, not the party they belong to, so my votes get split across party lines.

The idea that everyone must belong to one of two parties, and the "us versus them" mentality that goes along with than, makes me want to vomit.

ETA And if the private parties want their primaries to exclude independent voters, then the primaries should not be operated with *public* tax dollars!

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[gowlerk 2,275]

I'm far from knowledgeable about this. But I believe the constitution says very little about how the vote is conducted. It's largely a State matter. The state you live in decides the rules you get to vote under. Partys are favoured by the rules. Why? Because they wrote the rules.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[kallend 2,147]

ryoder

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A lot of Bernie supporters are grumbling about the exclusion of independents in the NY primary. While I like Bernie, and the following is not restricted to New York:

Why should anyone who is not a member of an organization be allowed to have a voice in that organization's affairs? Want to vote in US elections, then become a citizen. Want to help choose a corporation's BOD, then become a stockholder. Want to help choose a party's candidate, then join the party.

Show me where in the constitution it says I must belong to a party in order to have a voice in elections. Show me where in the constitution where it says a pair of private parties are entitled to operate a duopoly designed to exclude any other parties, and stop independent voters from exercising their right to participate in elections.

*I* decide who I want to vote for, and I cast my votes on the *person*, not the party they belong to, so my votes get split across party lines.

The idea that everyone must belong to one of two parties, and the "us versus them" mentality that goes along with than, makes me want to vomit.

ETA And if the private parties want their primaries to exclude independent voters, then the primaries should not be operated with *public* tax dollars!

The constitution says nothing about parties or how candidates are chosen.

The only part of your comment I agree with is the part I highlighted.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

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*I* decide who I want to vote for, and I cast my votes on the *person*, not the party they belong to, so my votes get split across party lines.

The idea that everyone must belong to one of two parties, and the "us versus them" mentality that goes along with than, makes me want to vomit.

ETA And if the private parties want their primaries to exclude independent voters, then the primaries should not be operated with *public* tax dollars!

The constitution says nothing about parties or how candidates are chosen.

The only part of your comment I agree with is the part I highlighted.

You disagree with the fact that chooses to vote for the person not the party?

You disaagree that he wants to vomit?

I'm not sure you are qualified to assess his visceral reactions or how he describes his voting tendencies about himself.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

Hi Robert,

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I must belong to a party in order to have a voice in elections

I readily admit that I do not keep up with the minutiae about the voting laws here in Oregon.

But, back in the 50's our house was a polling station and my mother was on the 'group' that counted the ballots.

Lots of folks wrote in their choices; many votes for Mickey Mouse, Roy Rogers, etc.

I 'think' that as a non-affiliated voter I can write-in whomever I want and it will be counted.

Any idea on what the laws are that are where you live?

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 2,147]

rehmwa

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*I* decide who I want to vote for, and I cast my votes on the *person*, not the party they belong to, so my votes get split across party lines.

The idea that everyone must belong to one of two parties, and the "us versus them" mentality that goes along with than, makes me want to vomit.

ETA And if the private parties want their primaries to exclude independent voters, then the primaries should not be operated with *public* tax dollars!

The constitution says nothing about parties or how candidates are chosen.

The only part of your comment I agree with is the part I highlighted.

You disagree with the fact that chooses to vote for the person not the party?

You disaagree that he wants to vomit?

I'm not sure you are qualified to assess his visceral reactions or how he describes his voting tendencies about himself.

In the context of a party selecting it's candidates, I think only party members should have a say. Maybe that is less ambiguous.

Same reason the US only allows US citizens to vote in US elections, Apple only allows Apple stockholders to vote (or submit proxy votes) on Apple issues, and California only allows CA residents to vote in CA state elections.

If you want to have a say in how any organization runs its affairs, you should join the organization.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

In the context of a party selecting it's candidates, I think only party members should have a say. Maybe that is less ambiguous.

Same reason the US only allows US citizens to vote in US elections, Apple only allows Apple stockholders to vote (or submit proxy votes) on Apple issues, and California only allows CA residents to vote in CA state elections.

If you want to have a say in how any organization runs its affairs, you should join the organization.

Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought our elected officials were supposed top represent and serve *all* the citizens, not just the members of the party. Or are they entitled to represent and serve only the interests of their party, and not all of the citizenry? What entitles the Rep/Dem duopoly the right to exclude citizens from having a say in who is elected?

The US political parties are the problem, not the solution.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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ryoder

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In the context of a party selecting it's candidates, I think only party members should have a say. Maybe that is less ambiguous.

Same reason the US only allows US citizens to vote in US elections, Apple only allows Apple stockholders to vote (or submit proxy votes) on Apple issues, and California only allows CA residents to vote in CA state elections.

If you want to have a say in how any organization runs its affairs, you should join the organization.

Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought our elected officials were supposed top represent and serve *all* the citizens, not just the members of the party. Or are they entitled to represent and serve only the interests of their party, and not all of the citizenry? What entitles the Rep/Dem duopoly the right to exclude citizens from having a say in who is elected?


Do you think non members should vote in USPA BOD elections?

Do you think Californians should vote in Arizona gubernatorial elections?

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The US political parties are the problem, not the solution.

Agreed, but not relevant to the issue.

A political party is a group of people who come together to contest elections and hold power in the government. They agree on some policies and programmes for the society with a view to promote the collective good or to further their supporters' interests.

So why should non-members and non supporters of the group have any say in the party's affairs?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DanG 1]

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Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought our elected officials were supposed top represent and serve *all* the citizens, not just the members of the party. Or are they entitled to represent and serve only the interests of their party, and not all of the citizenry? What entitles the Rep/Dem duopoly the right to exclude citizens from having a say in who is elected?

You know there's going to be another election in November, right?

- Dan G