winsor 236 #76 March 22, 2016 billvon>If someone was getting in your face and threatening you with body language, would >you not respond? The attack on video shows a protester being led away, and a Trump supporter sucker-punching him as he walks by. So let's say someone doesn't like what you post here. He goes to your DZ, and as you are about to load the plane, sucker-punches you. Are you OK with that, since he was just "responding" to your aggressive attack on DZ.com? After all, he has a right to defend himself from your attacks. I can think of someone in the skydiving world who has been sucker punched repeatedly, for cause, with zero sympathy. Think of the woman who was freaking out in "Airplane!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #77 March 22, 2016 winsor***>If someone was getting in your face and threatening you with body language, would >you not respond? The attack on video shows a protester being led away, and a Drumpf supporter sucker-punching him as he walks by. So let's say someone doesn't like what you post here. He goes to your DZ, and as you are about to load the plane, sucker-punches you. Are you OK with that, since he was just "responding" to your aggressive attack on DZ.com? After all, he has a right to defend himself from your attacks. I can think of someone in the skydiving world who has been sucker punched repeatedly, for cause, with zero sympathy. Think of the woman who was freaking out in "Airplane!" Sounds like an entertaining story - tell more?Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #78 March 22, 2016 billvon>If someone was getting in your face and threatening you with body language, would >you not respond? The attack on video shows a protester being led away, and a Trump supporter sucker-punching him as he walks by. So let's say someone doesn't like what you post here. He goes to your DZ, and as you are about to load the plane, sucker-punches you. Are you OK with that, since he was just "responding" to your aggressive attack on DZ.com? After all, he has a right to defend himself from your attacks. If he wants to go to jail. And he is willing to suffer the repercussions of my defense, then that is his gambit. I wouldn't be OK with any of it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #79 March 22, 2016 >If he wants to go to jail. Cool, so Trump supporters who do the same also go to jail. Sounds fair to me. So far the all-star list is: Tony Pettway - assault with injury Linda Rothman - assault without injury John McGraw - assault and disorderly conduct Shawn Morehead - assault > I wouldn't be OK with any of it. OK. It sounded like you were OK with Trump encouraging such behavior; my mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #80 March 22, 2016 billvon>If he wants to go to jail. Cool, so Trump supporters who do the same also go to jail. Sounds fair to me. So far the all-star list is: Tony Pettway - assault with injury Linda Rothman - assault without injury John McGraw - assault and disorderly conduct > I wouldn't be OK with any of it. OK. It sounded like you were OK with Trump encouraging such behavior; my mistake. No - Not encouraging. Defending, yes. As to the supporters who commit violence - Hell Yes, throw their ass in jail. If trump wants to fund their legal defense - that's his stupidity, but it is also his right in his pursuit of happiness I suppose.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #81 March 22, 2016 >No - Not encouraging. Defending, yes. OK, let's go back to the DZ example. You post something on DZ.com that angers someone. They go to your DZ. Someone there (let's call him Drumpf) says "that's Turtle over there. Go over there. Hurt him; it's self defense because he hurt you and he's going to hurt you even more. I will keep him from hurting you, and I will pay you for it too. I wish I could do it myself, but you know, political correctness." You OK with that sort of "defense?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #82 March 22, 2016 QuoteNo - Not encouraging. Defending, yes Trump was defending the violent acts of his supporters before they committed them? How did he know?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #83 March 23, 2016 jakeeQuoteNo - Not encouraging. Defending, yes Trump was defending the violent acts of his supporters before they committed them? How did he know? It's pretty easy. You attend a rally - see what happens - respond to what happens - expect that to happen in the next rally - and repeat. There would be no story - if there was no one to bring the media attention to it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #84 March 23, 2016 turtlespeed***QuoteNo - Not encouraging. Defending, yes Trump was defending the violent acts of his supporters before they committed them? How did he know? It's pretty easy. You attend a rally - see what happens - respond to what happens - expect that to happen in the next rally - and repeat. There would be no story - if there was no one to bring the media attention to it. Joe Pesci, help me. Preemptive attacks are NOT FUCKING DEFENSE. I don't care if it happened at another rally. That does not mean you start throwing punches "just in case." Trump fucking TOLD his supported to attack someone if they were going to THROW A TOMATO. Your idea of adequate response to situations is terrible. The fact that a presidential candidate goes around telling people to hit others should be appalling to you. Especially because he certainly does not ever sound like "hey guys, you should stick up for yourselves." No, his tone and words are much more like "Hey, that fucking guy? I hate him. He disgusts me. I certainly would not be mad if someone hit him." I can't see how you could watch him say these things and ever think he just wants people to defend themselves.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #85 March 23, 2016 turtlespeed***QuoteNo - Not encouraging. Defending, yes Trump was defending the violent acts of his supporters before they committed them? How did he know? It's pretty easy. You attend a rally - see what happens - respond to what happens - expect that to happen in the next rally - and repeat. Except he was waxing lyrical about how great it would be if his supporters thumped people before anyone was thumped. So how is that 'defending'?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #86 March 23, 2016 jakee ****** Quote No - Not encouraging. Defending, yes Trump was defending the violent acts of his supporters before they committed them? How did he know? It's pretty easy. You attend a rally - see what happens - respond to what happens - expect that to happen in the next rally - and repeat. Except he was waxing lyrical about how great it would be if his supporters thumped people before anyone was thumped. So how is that 'defending'? Huh. This was much more succinct than my rant. Let's go with this. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #87 March 23, 2016 jakee******QuoteNo - Not encouraging. Defending, yes Trump was defending the violent acts of his supporters before they committed them? How did he know? It's pretty easy. You attend a rally - see what happens - respond to what happens - expect that to happen in the next rally - and repeat. Except he was waxing lyrical about how great it would be if his supporters thumped people before anyone was thumped. So how is that 'defending'? Have you ever been downtown Miami at night, alone? You'd get it then.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #88 March 23, 2016 AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #90 March 23, 2016 rushmcAND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS But one Trump protester is definitely all Lieberals!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #91 March 23, 2016 QuoteAND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERSNeither is: one terrorist all Muslims one thug all guys wearing hoodies (or all poor black guy living in a poor neighborhood) one immigrant criminal all immigrants one Trump protester all Trump protesters The expression "those people" usually precedes a statement about any group that based on prejudice, and not consideration of them as people. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #92 March 23, 2016 SkyDekker***AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS But one Trump protester is definitely all Lieberals!! They are bought and paid for by Moveon.org And only groups of liberals act that stupidly"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolhtairt 0 #93 March 23, 2016 rushmc******AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS But one Trump protester is definitely all Lieberals!! They are bought and paid for by Moveon.org And only groups of liberals act that stupidly Didn't Trump just win Arizona? The state where protesters blocked a highway leading to one of his rallies? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #94 March 23, 2016 wmw999QuoteAND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERSNeither is: one terrorist all Muslims one thug all guys wearing hoodies (or all poor black guy living in a poor neighborhood) one immigrant criminal all immigrants one Trump protester all Trump protesters The expression "those people" usually precedes a statement about any group that based on prejudice, and not consideration of them as people. Wendy P. Notice the twist you have made in the conversation? But for your first one All Muslims are not terrorists but lately All the terrorists have been Muslims"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #95 March 23, 2016 rushmc******AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS But one Trump protester is definitely all Lieberals!! They are bought and paid for by Moveon.org And only groups of liberals act that stupidly QED Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #96 March 23, 2016 rushmc *** Quote AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS Neither is: one terrorist all Muslims one thug all guys wearing hoodies (or all poor black guy living in a poor neighborhood) one immigrant criminal all immigrants one Trump protester all Trump protesters The expression "those people" usually precedes a statement about any group that based on prejudice, and not consideration of them as people. Wendy P. Notice the twist you have made in the conversation? But for your first one All Muslims are not terrorists but lately All the terrorists have been Muslims I hate absolutes - I'll give you the VAST majority, but not all.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #97 March 23, 2016 turtlespeed ****** Quote AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS Neither is: one terrorist all Muslims one thug all guys wearing hoodies (or all poor black guy living in a poor neighborhood) one immigrant criminal all immigrants one Trump protester all Trump protesters The expression "those people" usually precedes a statement about any group that based on prejudice, and not consideration of them as people. Wendy P. Notice the twist you have made in the conversation? But for your first one All Muslims are not terrorists but lately All the terrorists have been Muslims I hate absolutes - I'll give you the VAST majority, but not all.Name one lately that has not been...."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #98 March 23, 2016 rushmc ********* Quote AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS Neither is: one terrorist all Muslims one thug all guys wearing hoodies (or all poor black guy living in a poor neighborhood) one immigrant criminal all immigrants one Trump protester all Trump protesters The expression "those people" usually precedes a statement about any group that based on prejudice, and not consideration of them as people. Wendy P. Notice the twist you have made in the conversation? But for your first one All Muslims are not terrorists but lately All the terrorists have been Muslims I hate absolutes - I'll give you the VAST majority, but not all.Name one lately that has not been.... Timothy McVeigh Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold James Holmes Eric Robert Rudolph Robert L. Dear Dylann Roof"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #99 March 23, 2016 rushmc ********* Quote AND ONE PERSON IS NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS Neither is: one terrorist all Muslims one thug all guys wearing hoodies (or all poor black guy living in a poor neighborhood) one immigrant criminal all immigrants one Trump protester all Trump protesters The expression "those people" usually precedes a statement about any group that based on prejudice, and not consideration of them as people. Wendy P. Notice the twist you have made in the conversation? But for your first one All Muslims are not terrorists but lately All the terrorists have been Muslims I hate absolutes - I'll give you the VAST majority, but not all.Name one lately that has not been.... Shall I use the same time line you use for AGW? What time line is "lately"?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #100 March 23, 2016 turtlespeedHave you ever been downtown Miami at night, alone? You'd get it then. You do realise that when you have to change the subject like that it's the same as putting up a massive flashing neon sign that you know you're wrong?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
