DanG 1 #76 March 18, 2016 What bet did you offer? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #77 March 18, 2016 rushmcNotice no one has stepped up to take the bet I offered? Perhaps you could elaborate on the specifics of the bet.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #78 March 18, 2016 DanGWhat bet did you offer? Care to make a wager as to whether or not the group, this thread is about, we be violent or not? I am confident that their MO will be violence. Much like what was seen in Chicago."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #79 March 18, 2016 turtlespeed***Notice no one has stepped up to take the bet I offered? Perhaps you could elaborate on the specifics of the bet. Just asked a couple people here if they wanted to make a bet or not as to whether or not the protestors this thread is about will become violent or not"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #80 March 18, 2016 billvonGood editorial overall. I disagree with some of the details, but agree on the overall message - that we are creating a downright toxic environment, and that Trump's condoning and encouraging of violence is just the most visible part of the iceberg. He provided a very generalized set of comments and observations - Not a lot of details to disagree with other than the overall message. ("I don't agree with some of it" usually comes across to me as - "I'm not sure how I want to spin it". Or in engineering meetings "Sounds good, but I want to appear thoughtful so I'll pick some number that's not a 1 or a 10". In engineering, it's a peeve of mine when management does that - but usually because the delivery comes across as "I'd do it better" instead of "good job, can I provide some thoughts on how to make it even better") In any case, I think the other stuff is also very visible and has been for a long time. The signals have been flashing for decades. Trump and his followers are just turning the volume knob to '11' - and in a VERY objectionable way really IMO. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #81 March 18, 2016 rushmc ***What bet did you offer? Care to make a wager as to whether or not the group, this thread is about, we be violent or not? I am confident that their MO will be violence. Much like what was seen in Chicago. Suckers bet. You will just claim any violence belongs to this group and claim you win. You will use breitbart and newsmax as your proof. Then you will throw in a lot of emoji. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #82 March 18, 2016 SkyDekker ******What bet did you offer? Care to make a wager as to whether or not the group, this thread is about, we be violent or not? I am confident that their MO will be violence. Much like what was seen in Chicago. Suckers bet. You will just claim any violence belongs to this group and claim you win. You will use breitbart and newsmax as your proof. Then you will throw in a lot of emoji. You remind me of this Monty Python movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #83 March 18, 2016 rushmc *********What bet did you offer? Care to make a wager as to whether or not the group, this thread is about, we be violent or not? I am confident that their MO will be violence. Much like what was seen in Chicago. Suckers bet. You will just claim any violence belongs to this group and claim you win. You will use breitbart and newsmax as your proof. Then you will throw in a lot of emoji. You remind me of this Monty Python movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk I highly doubt you understand that movie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #84 March 18, 2016 SkyDekker ************What bet did you offer? Care to make a wager as to whether or not the group, this thread is about, we be violent or not? I am confident that their MO will be violence. Much like what was seen in Chicago. Suckers bet. You will just claim any violence belongs to this group and claim you win. You will use breitbart and newsmax as your proof. Then you will throw in a lot of emoji. You remind me of this Monty Python movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk I highly doubt you understand that movie. which proves you don't "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #85 March 18, 2016 rushmc ******Notice no one has stepped up to take the bet I offered? Perhaps you could elaborate on the specifics of the bet. Just asked a couple people here if they wanted to make a bet or not as to whether or not the protestors this thread is about will become violent or not I'd bet that they will likely beget some violence. You can't bring that much hate for one individual with you to a rally and let other's symbiosis feed off that hate without problems. But, hey - They are the party of tolerance, right?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #86 March 18, 2016 The same thing would happen with any group who feels aggrieved enough. Add youth, inexperience, intensity, and ease in being led (why do you think military is for the young?) and what do you expect? It's wrong, and dumb. Just as draft-card burning and bra burning riots were wrong in the 60's. But to only see the bad behavior in one group, and "understand" it in another, isn't exactly unbiased Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #87 March 18, 2016 wmw999 The same thing would happen with any group who feels aggrieved enough. Add youth, inexperience, intensity, and ease in being led (why do you think military is for the young?) and what do you expect? It's wrong, and dumb. Just as draft-card burning and bra burning riots were wrong in the 60's. But to only see the bad behavior in one group, and "understand" it in another, isn't exactly unbiased Wendy P. I understand it in both. Idiocrity.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #88 March 18, 2016 >You can't bring that much hate for one individual with you to a rally and let other's symbiosis feed off >that hate without problems. True for both sides. And the best way to make sure that violence happens is to stoke it - encourage it, glorify it, forgive it, offer to pay for people's legal defense if they get caught being violent. Trump is hoping for violence so he can play the martyr; he has already started playing the violin on that topic. And he has done a good job of enabling it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #89 March 18, 2016 billvon>You can't bring that much hate for one individual with you to a rally and let other's symbiosis feed off >that hate without problems. True for both sides. And the best way to make sure that violence happens is to stoke it - encourage it, glorify it, forgive it, offer to pay for people's legal defense if they get caught being violent. Trump is hoping for violence so he can play the martyr; he has already started playing the violin on that topic. And he has done a good job of enabling it. You forget that you can also refuse to prosecute the laws that were broken, ignore the law even though you have sworn an oath to uphold it . . . It looks like you jumped from unbiased right back into the biased pot. So what you are really saying is that it is mostly ok with you when your side does it, like voter intimidation with black panthers, or IRS targeting, but when trump does it - it's not as mostly ok.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #90 March 18, 2016 >So what you are really saying is that it is mostly ok with you when your side does it, like voter >intimidation with black panthers Nope. Voter intimidation is not OK. >or IRS targeting . . . Nope. IRS targeting one group over another is not OK. >but when trump does it - it's not as mostly ok. Correct. It's not OK when Trump does it. And if Sanders was encouraging his followers to kick protester's asses, and promising to pay their legal bills if they do - wouldn't be OK with that either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #91 March 19, 2016 billvon>So what you are really saying is that it is mostly ok with you when your side does it, like voter >intimidation with black panthers Nope. Voter intimidation is not OK. >or IRS targeting . . . Nope. IRS targeting one group over another is not OK. >but when trump does it - it's not as mostly ok. Correct. It's not OK when Trump does it. And if Sanders was encouraging his followers to kick protester's asses, and promising to pay their legal bills if they do - wouldn't be OK with that either. Get in their faces and argue with them Bring a gun to a knife fight I guess you are ok with those"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #92 March 19, 2016 These thugs and ass hats will get somebody hurt or killed. Count on it http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/19/protestors-block-access-to-trump-rally-in-arizona-ahead-big-primary-in-border-state.html?intcmp=hpbt2"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #93 March 19, 2016 >These thugs and ass hats will get somebody hurt or killed. Agreed; one asshat has already been arrested for sucker punching someone in the face for no reason. And when it gets worse, Trump will bear some of the blame for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #94 March 20, 2016 billvon>These thugs and ass hats will get somebody hurt or killed. Agreed; one asshat has already been arrested for sucker punching someone in the face for no reason. And when it gets worse, Trump will bear some of the blame for it. Your bias is awe inspiring.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #95 March 21, 2016 >Your bias is awe inspiring. So for Rush, facts=lies. For you, facts=bias. Gotta start a cross-reference . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #96 March 21, 2016 billvon>Your bias is awe inspiring. So for Rush, facts=lies. For you, facts=bias. Gotta start a cross-reference . . . . NOW your opinions are facts???? Gotta love it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #97 March 21, 2016 rushmc***>Your bias is awe inspiring. So for Rush, facts=lies. For you, facts=bias. Gotta start a cross-reference . . . . NOW your opinions are facts???? Gotta love it This from the guy who claims GWB never told a lie despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary..... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #98 March 21, 2016 kallend******>Your bias is awe inspiring. So for Rush, facts=lies. For you, facts=bias. Gotta start a cross-reference . . . . NOW your opinions are facts???? Gotta love it This from the guy who claims GWB never told a lie despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.. you keep spewing the lie"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #99 March 21, 2016 kallend******>Your bias is awe inspiring. So for Rush, facts=lies. For you, facts=bias. Gotta start a cross-reference . . . . NOW your opinions are facts???? Gotta love it This from the guy who claims GWB never told a lie despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.. You are working on the assumption that GWB UNDERSTOOD the evidence. I say you give him too much credit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #100 March 21, 2016 >NOW your opinions are facts? Nope, but my facts are: "one asshat has already been arrested for sucker punching someone in the face for no reason." I know you dislike facts. I'll make you a deal - you stop posting lies, I'll stop posting facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
