billvon 3,113 #26 March 4, 2016 >Being successful and being elite are different concepts to me. Agreed. Per your posts here, "elite" means "successful people I don't like." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #27 March 4, 2016 Whereas successful is ascribed to someone who couldn't make money running a casino. Go figure.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 343 #28 March 4, 2016 turtlespeed***Trump -- a bigot, bully, "divorced three times," club owner, drinker, etc. I don't think he drinks Okay, so I misspoke there. He built/owns/promotes nightclubs, where drinking is a central activity. Additionally, he's a bully, bigot, misogynist, and myriad other qualities even more distasteful to a large segment of the population (including Establishment Evangelicals).See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #29 March 4, 2016 He doesn't drink, but he sold Trump Vodka and owns Trump Winery. Let's face it, American evangelicals don't give a shit about a person's morals as long as they say they are pro-life, anti-Muslim, and anti-immigrant. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 343 #30 March 4, 2016 DanGHe doesn't drink, but he sold Trump Vodka and owns Trump Winery. Let's face it, American evangelicals don't give a shit about a person's morals as long as they say they are pro-life, anti-Muslim, and anti-immigrant. According to the report I heard, that is true of the newer "born again" segment; but the older, establishment segment is all about acceptance, forgiveness, non-judgement, etc. And they do care about a person's actions. So the more establishment segment is against Trump because of all those other characteristics I listed, AND at the same time is recognizing that the "Evangelical" title has been sort of hijacked by the bigoted nut jobs. (characterization mine)See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 March 4, 2016 TriGirlAccording to the report I heard, that is true of the newer "born again" segment; but the older, establishment segment is all about acceptance, forgiveness, non-judgement, etc. And they do care about a person's actions. So the more establishment segment is against Trump because of all those other characteristics I listed, AND at the same time is recognizing that the "Evangelical" title has been sort of hijacked by the bigoted nut jobs. (characterization mine) that's a rather thoughtful and non-slanted viewpoint you have there we'll have none of that in Speaker's Corner - if you will, please adopt a more snarky broadbrushed viewpoint of various demographics please ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 343 #32 March 4, 2016 rehmwa ***According to the report I heard, that is true of the newer "born again" segment; but the older, establishment segment is all about acceptance, forgiveness, non-judgement, etc. And they do care about a person's actions. So the more establishment segment is against Trump because of all those other characteristics I listed, AND at the same time is recognizing that the "Evangelical" title has been sort of hijacked by the bigoted nut jobs. (characterization mine) that's a rather thoughtful and non-slanted viewpoint you have there we'll have none of that in Speaker's Corner - if you will, please adopt a more snarky broadbrushed viewpoint of various demographics please That's just the report's viewpoint. I think they're all nut jobs, convinced they're being backed by their imaginary friend. However, regardless of the motivation, I can respect people who espouse a full-society viewpoint on how to get along. So quit yer whining about my posting and mind your own damn business!! (better? )See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #33 March 4, 2016 TriGirl******Trump -- a bigot, bully, "divorced three times," club owner, drinker, etc. I don't think he drinks Okay, so I misspoke there. He built/owns/promotes nightclubs, where drinking is a central activity. Additionally, he's a bully, bigot, misogynist, and myriad other qualities even more distasteful to a large segment of the population (including Establishment Evangelicals). Bully - just as much as Hillary is. Misogynist - Hillary has that too, not apparently as strongly, perhaps, but there you have it, appearances are not truth. Bigot - Hillary owns that one too - Yes google is your friend Liar - OH HELL does Hillary lie. They are both in convicted criminals - They are both egomaniacal villains. I wonder which one is going to pull out the white cat any day now. They both have marriages of convenience The one thing that I can say that Hillary has that Trump does not - she has an apparently well adjusted child, but appearances are not truth. We simply do not need another Clinton in office. I cannot say it strongly enough - the system should be shaken to its roots and fixed. The country needs that.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,466 #34 March 4, 2016 Hi turtle, QuoteWe simply do not need another Clinton in office. Opinions are like a**holes, we all have at least one. I was completely against Ms. Clinton in '08; then I watched her as Sec of State. She did that job very well IMO; travelling all over the world, looking like h*** sometimes; but she did the work. Quotethe system should be shaken to its roots and fixed. I agree; but voting for The Donald will not accomplish it. Ms. H is going to get my vote, YMMV, Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #35 March 4, 2016 JerryBaumchenHi turtle, QuoteWe simply do not need another Clinton in office. Opinions are like a**holes, we all have at least one. I was completely against Ms. Clinton in '08; then I watched her as Sec of State. She did that job very well IMO; travelling all over the world, looking like h*** sometimes; but she did the work. ***the system should be shaken to its roots and fixed. I agree; but voting for The Donald will not accomplish it. Ms. H is going to get my vote, YMMV, Jerry Baumchen Why can't we just let Bernie Sanders in as front runner? I'd vote for him to keep trump out. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #36 March 4, 2016 GeorgiaDonQuoteThere was a strong movement in the '80s to elect Christians to office. I believe that it was some vague notion that we, in America, could establish the theocratic government that Jesus Christ would lead when He returns following the Tribulation.How do you reconcile that with the 1st amendment? Do you consider your self to be a patriotic American? Don I am simply sharing what I believe from my perspective. The First Amendment only applied to free speech. The slogan at the time was, "Ronald Reagan was God's man for the season." I wish you people understood more about walking in faith and not by sight.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #37 March 4, 2016 Can you provide a source for them both being "convicted criminals"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,113 #38 March 4, 2016 >We simply do not need another Clinton in office. And yet the GOP will very soon find themselves praying for a Clinton win, lest Trump end up the leader of the GOP. Strange days indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #39 March 4, 2016 DanGHe doesn't drink, but he sold Trump Vodka and owns Trump Winery. Let's face it, American evangelicals don't give a shit about a person's morals as long as they say they are pro-life, anti-Muslim, and anti-immigrant. I hope those pro-life evangelicals will put up the money to care for kids born with birth defects when Zika gets here. www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/03/04/zika-causes-more-pregnancy-complications-than-anyone-realized-researchers-say/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #40 March 4, 2016 QuoteThey are both in convicted criminals - Explain?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #41 March 4, 2016 RonD1120***QuoteThere was a strong movement in the '80s to elect Christians to office. I believe that it was some vague notion that we, in America, could establish the theocratic government that Jesus Christ would lead when He returns following the Tribulation.How do you reconcile that with the 1st amendment? Do you consider your self to be a patriotic American? Don I am simply sharing what I believe from my perspective. The First Amendment only applied to free speech. The slogan at the time was, "Ronald Reagan was God's man for the season." I wish you people understood more about walking in faith and not by sight. So if you have enough faith you can make words on paper magically disappear?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,466 #42 March 4, 2016 Hi turtle, QuoteWhy can't we just let Bernie Sanders in as front runner? It is not a matter of 'can't'; it is a matter of won't. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #43 March 5, 2016 JerryBaumchenHi turtle, QuoteWhy can't we just let Bernie Sanders in as front runner? It is not a matter of 'can't'; it is a matter of won't. Jerry Baumchen Should is the proper wording. Why do you cover her so much?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #44 March 5, 2016 RonD1120***QuoteThere was a strong movement in the '80s to elect Christians to office. I believe that it was some vague notion that we, in America, could establish the theocratic government that Jesus Christ would lead when He returns following the Tribulation.How do you reconcile that with the 1st amendment? Do you consider your self to be a patriotic American? Don I am simply sharing what I believe from my perspective. The First Amendment only applied to free speech. The slogan at the time was, "Ronald Reagan was God's man for the season."Let's look at what the first amendment says. It's not very long, but it packs in a lot: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Well look at that. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" is the very first phrase. What are we to make of your statement that "the First Amendment only applied to free speech"? Are you simply woefully ignorant, or are you a willful liar? Not a very flattering choice, Ron. QuoteI wish you people understood more about walking in faith and not by sight.Who do you mean by "you people"? People who actually respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? People who understand how important freedom of religion really is to the fundamental character of American society? Let me put this as clearly as I can, Ron. Your vision of America is treasonous. You are no patriot, you are an enemy of the American experiment. The next time you accuse Obama of doing violence to the Constitution I hope you turn into a pillar of salt, or get devoured by locusts, or suffer some other suitably Biblical calamity, as punishment for your hypocrisy. You are no better than the Taliban, it seems to me. Certainly you are no American. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #45 March 5, 2016 GeorgiaDon******QuoteThere was a strong movement in the '80s to elect Christians to office. I believe that it was some vague notion that we, in America, could establish the theocratic government that Jesus Christ would lead when He returns following the Tribulation.How do you reconcile that with the 1st amendment? Do you consider your self to be a patriotic American? Don I am simply sharing what I believe from my perspective. The First Amendment only applied to free speech. The slogan at the time was, "Ronald Reagan was God's man for the season."Let's look at what the first amendment says. It's not very long, but it packs in a lot: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Well look at that. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" is the very first phrase. What are we to make of your statement that "the First Amendment only applied to free speech"? Are you simply woefully ignorant, or are you a willful liar? Not a very flattering choice, Ron. QuoteI wish you people understood more about walking in faith and not by sight.Who do you mean by "you people"? People who actually respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? People who understand how important freedom of religion really is to the fundamental character of American society? Let me put this as clearly as I can, Ron. Your vision of America is treasonous. You are no patriot, you are an enemy of the American experiment. The next time you accuse Obama of doing violence to the Constitution I hope you turn into a pillar of salt, or get devoured by locusts, or suffer some other suitably Biblical calamity, as punishment for your hypocrisy. You are no better than the Taliban, it seems to me. Certainly you are no American. Don Touched a nerve, huh. 1. You are trying to pick apart a non-existent argument. Therefore, I have no response. 2. "You people" are those without faith and apparently a very limited imagination. 3. When did you swear an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution? I did on 25 Oct 1960. 4. IMO, liberals are just very angry people. 5. It is going to be a beautiful weekend. Enjoy it and stay out of the Atlanta area. From the news this morning the natives are violently restless.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #46 March 5, 2016 Quote. When did you swear an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution? I did on 25 Oct 1960. In what way is trying to establish a theocratic government upholding the US Constitution? Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #47 March 5, 2016 GeorgiaDonQuote. When did you swear an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution? I did on 25 Oct 1960. In what way is trying to establish a theocratic government upholding the US Constitution? Don It is not. I would not waste my time trying. Jesus will establish the theocracy during His millennial reign. That will take place after the Tribulation and prior to the Battle of Armageddon and the Great White Throne Judgment.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 893 #48 March 5, 2016 Usually native Georgians get excited over football, what's up this weekend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #49 March 5, 2016 Somehow I think Jesus sitting on a "great white throne" was not the visual you were going for. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #50 March 5, 2016 GeorgiaDonSomehow I think Jesus sitting on a "great white throne" was not the visual you were going for. Don You would think that way. It is my understanding that God The Father not Jesus will conduct the Great White Throne Judgment.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
