wmw999 2,588 #301 March 17, 2016 It's more of "so what if I am, you're worse, and your dog dresses funny, too." It's not worse for Sharia law to be respected than it is for Halakah, or for the Mormons or Amish to be exempt from certain US laws. However, the context, location, and extent all have to be taken into consideration. I don't want to be subject to any of them. Nor do I want to be subject to specifically Christian laws in a secular context (Sunday blue laws, marriage laws, etc). Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #302 March 17, 2016 >And here it shows that more than just one Hillary supporter supports upping Sharia Law at least >in minority communities. Yep. And Trump supporters readily agree with statements from Hitler as long as they think Trump said them. There are a lot of idiots out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #303 March 17, 2016 quade***And here it shows that more than just one Hillary supporter supports upping Sharia Law at least in minority communities. Do you have any idea how easy it is to make bullshit man on the street videos like this to show how dumb (insert group here) are about virtually any subject on the planet? As easy as it is to copy and paste stupid quotes from a group of people you disagree with? Probably as easy as stating that you have been to 57 states and only have one more to go. What's your point?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #304 March 17, 2016 billvon >And here it shows that more than just one Hillary supporter supports upping Sharia Law at least >in minority communities. Yep. And Trump supporters readily agree with statements from Hitler as long as they think Trump said them. There are a lot of idiots out there. At least YOU got the point of me posting that. It's nice to be understood sometimes.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #305 March 17, 2016 QuoteHell, if Trump was president the Iraq war would not have happened - so that's a really bad example given the context. Only if you're deliberately trying to miss the point. Which is a really bad way to conduct a discussion.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #306 March 17, 2016 wmw999It's more of "so what if I am, you're worse, and your dog dresses funny, too." It's not worse for Sharia law to be respected than it is for Halakah, or for the Mormons or Amish to be exempt from certain US laws. However, the context, location, and extent all have to be taken into consideration. I don't want to be subject to any of them. Nor do I want to be subject to specifically Christian laws in a secular context (Sunday blue laws, marriage laws, etc). Wendy P.Yet you would vote for a "Person" that would be open to expanding the Sharia law in at least the minority's parts of the city. I mean - that is what her supporters would be willing to do to get her elected. What is good for you isn't good enough for them. Why do you hate Minorities? (Tic)I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #307 March 17, 2016 turtlespeed***It's more of "so what if I am, you're worse, and your dog dresses funny, too." It's not worse for Sharia law to be respected than it is for Halakah, or for the Mormons or Amish to be exempt from certain US laws. However, the context, location, and extent all have to be taken into consideration. I don't want to be subject to any of them. Nor do I want to be subject to specifically Christian laws in a secular context (Sunday blue laws, marriage laws, etc). Wendy P.Yet you would vote for a "Person" that would be open to expanding the Sharia law in at least the minority's parts of the city. I mean - that is what her supporters would be willing to do to get her elected. What is good for you isn't good enough for them. Why do you hate Minorities? (Tic) Why not, you do it for Jews in New York. If people want to set up contracts under Sharia law and agree to be bound by some kind of Sharia arbitration, what is wrong with that? Similar set-ups happen all the time. Are you just opposed to the idea because it is has the word Sharia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #308 March 17, 2016 >Yet you would vote for a "Person" that would be open to expanding the Sharia law in >at least the minority's parts of the city. Personally I'm fine with that as long as it doesn't violate any US laws. I grew up in New York, and Shabbat elevators and traffic lights were a part of life. No one got too upset about them. Now I'm in California and we get Christian holidays off. Also fine with that. And if a local company wants to provide a place for Muslims to pray, or give their employees Ramadan off? I'm fine with that too. Even if Clinton (or Trump) supports it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #309 March 17, 2016 billvon>Yet you would vote for a "Person" that would be open to expanding the Sharia law in >at least the minority's parts of the city. Personally I'm fine with that as long as it doesn't violate any US laws. I grew up in New York, and Shabbat elevators and traffic lights were a part of life. No one got too upset about them. Now I'm in California and we get Christian holidays off. Also fine with that. And if a local company wants to provide a place for Muslims to pray, or give their employees Ramadan off? I'm fine with that too. Even if Clinton (or Trump) supports it. Or allowing wires to be pulled, high on poles, around parts of New York to facilitate orthodox Jews. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #310 March 17, 2016 >Or allowing wires to be pulled, high on poles, around parts of New York . . . WHAT? They are putting up Sharia law death wires in New York? Call the National Guard! Call the media! Call Trump! > .. . .to facilitate orthodox Jews. Oh, they are just Halakha law wires? Well that's fine then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #311 March 17, 2016 Your poll missed this choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #312 March 18, 2016 Ron was recently complaining about a Muslim judge being sworn in. Let's imagine what the right wing's response would be if she had given a few speeches first and taken Trump's approach." "That right wing Christian protester who got beat up at my speech? He deserved it. Next time we might have to kill him." "If you see a protester looking like he's going to do something? Beat the crap out of them. Please. Just beat the crap out of them. I promise you, I will help you with your defense. I am a judge after all." "See, when I was a kid growing up in my country, we didn't have these problems with heckling and disrespect. We used to treat people who dissed us very rough. We’ve become very weak." "Those police keeping those anti-Muslim protesters under control are very gentle, very gentle. I'd like to punch them in the face." "I love the old days. You know what we'd do when we'd get anti-Muslim protesters like that? They'd get carried away on a stretcher, folks." Anyone think there would be right wing supporters here saying that she's just speaking plainly, and it's what people want? Anyone think Ron would be saying "she's right! This country has become too weak and politically correct!" Anyone think RushMC would be saying "she never threatened vuolence! And even if she did Obama did it first." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #313 March 18, 2016 billvonRon was recently complaining about a Muslim judge being sworn in. Let's imagine what the right wing's response would be if she had given a few speeches first and taken Trump's approach." "That right wing Christian protester who got beat up at my speech? He deserved it. Next time we might have to kill him." "If you see a protester looking like he's going to do something? Beat the crap out of them. Please. Just beat the crap out of them. I promise you, I will help you with your defense. I am a judge after all." "See, when I was a kid growing up in my country, we didn't have these problems with heckling and disrespect. We used to treat people who dissed us very rough. We’ve become very weak." "Those police keeping those anti-Muslim protesters under control are very gentle, very gentle. I'd like to punch them in the face." "I love the old days. You know what we'd do when we'd get anti-Muslim protesters like that? They'd get carried away on a stretcher, folks." Anyone think there would be right wing supporters here saying that she's just speaking plainly, and it's what people want? Anyone think Ron would be saying "she's right! This country has become too weak and politically correct!" Anyone think RushMC would be saying "she never threatened vuolence! And even if she did Obama did it first." I am having difficulty fantasizing your scenario. I was under the belief that federal judges were appointed not elected. Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #314 March 18, 2016 Quote Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Isn't your god better than their god? Why would he let that happen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #315 March 18, 2016 SkyDekkerQuote Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Isn't your god better than their god? Why would he let that happen? End time prophecy. We can't change it but right minded people must attempt to do the right thing.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #316 March 18, 2016 RonD1120***Quote Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Isn't your god better than their god? Why would he let that happen? End time prophecy. We can't change it but right minded people must attempt to do the right thing. Oh the world is going to end unless you stop it. You go Ron, you do you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #317 March 18, 2016 SkyDekker******Quote Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Isn't your god better than their god? Why would he let that happen? End time prophecy. We can't change it but right minded people must attempt to do the right thing. Oh the world is going to end unless you stop it. You go Ron, you do you! Now that is nonsense.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #318 March 18, 2016 Not at you Ron. This thread was about Hillary vs. Trump. What the hell happened? Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #319 March 18, 2016 >Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim >Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Thank you for, once again, demonstrating my point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #320 March 18, 2016 billvon>Anyway, my concern is the surreptitious subversion of our government and culture by the Muslim >Brotherhood under the guidance and approval of the BHO administration. Thank you for, once again, demonstrating my point. There is an influence that is pro MB but it is not the BO admin doing it. That is an unfairly cast net. This is coming from the right and the left. G. Norquist is an example on the right.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #321 March 18, 2016 >There is an influence that is pro MB . . . There is definitely an influence that is pro-Muslim, just as there are influences that are pro-Christian and pro-Jewish. That's as it should be. People should support whatever religions they want to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #322 March 18, 2016 billvon>There is an influence that is pro MB . . . There is definitely an influence that is pro-Muslim, just as there are influences that are pro-Christian and pro-Jewish. That's as it should be. People should support whatever religions they want to. No. Simply - NO. People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #323 March 18, 2016 QuoteNo. Simply - NO. People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. So people shouldn't be allowed to support any religions at all, huh? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #324 March 18, 2016 turtlespeed***>There is an influence that is pro MB . . . There is definitely an influence that is pro-Muslim, just as there are influences that are pro-Christian and pro-Jewish. That's as it should be. People should support whatever religions they want to. No. Simply - NO. People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. This. MB is not simply supporting the right of following faith. Their agenda is not an agenda of faith at all.Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 1 #325 March 18, 2016 DanGQuoteNo. Simply - NO. People should have the freedom to support whatever religion they want, ONLY if it never hurts any other individual, or infringes on another individual's human rights. So people shouldn't be allowed to support any religions at all, huh? MB is not about faith at all!Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
