Should Trump release his tax returns

[brenthutch 444]

[SkyDekker 1,465]

I guess under whatever regulations there are in place to do so. Which I am assuming is the same for all other candidates.

Why would he have to follow any other rules?

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

I guess under whatever regulations there are in place to do so. Which I am assuming is the same for all other candidates.

Why would he have to follow any other rules?

Do you know that there is a rule or regulation requiring candidates to release their tax filings????

I do not know that this rule exists
It may, but I am not aware of it

Usually this is just a talking points gotcha
But I could be wrong.....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[brenthutch 444]

It's not a rule, it has become a custom.

[normiss 898]

Not legally required, but historically they have.
Seems more like an effort to show transparency and trust.
I think that's the point.
I also wouldn't expect it to help in this case with either of those.

[rushmc 23]

brenthutch

It's not a rule, it has become a custom.

that is what I thought but I could not remember for sure

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[brenthutch 444]

It would not suprise me if he showed a net loss and paid zero taxes, given the deductions allowed in real estate. Because this odds with his narrative, I would not expect to see them any time soon. I think they are in the same drawer with HRC's Wall Street speach transcripts.

[Coreeece 2]

On CNN last night he said that we can see them after the audit.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[RonD1120 62]

I weigh my opinion against BHO's reluctance and refusal to release his personal records.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

I don't think he needs to release his tax returns. Don't even see how they are relative to anything.

Really don't see how personal tax returns reflect on a person's ability to be president.

[rehmwa 2]

SkyDekker

I don't think he needs to release his tax returns. Don't even see how they are relative to anything.

Really don't see how personal tax returns reflect on a person's ability to be president.

this^ just like the Kerry and Romney thing.

Trump is likely audited every single year of his life. So I doubt there is any legal problems at all.

Both the left and the right want their opponents to release their returns so they can dig into it and show and spin "LEGAL" deductions and accounting to try and get the public spun up.

Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rehmwa

***I don't think he needs to release his tax returns. Don't even see how they are relative to anything.

Really don't see how personal tax returns reflect on a person's ability to be president.

this^ just like the Kerry and Romney thing.

Trump is likely audited every single year of his life. So I doubt there is any legal problems at all.

Both the left and the right want their opponents to release their returns so they can dig into it and show and spin "LEGAL" deductions and accounting to try and get the public spun up.

Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

Yup, plus being opposed to certain tax credits etc from a policy perspective doesn't mean a person cannot avail themselves of those tax credits if available.

I don't think my taxes should be $0, but if I had the ability to legally get them to $0 I would do it.

[normiss 898]

You missed THIS then, 14 years of federal tax returns from President Obama.

[kallend 2,150]

rehmwa

Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

I think Romney's low tax rate underscored problems with the tax code as pertains to hedge fund managers very nicely.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

rehmwa

Trump is likely audited every single year of his life. So I doubt there is any legal problems at all.

Another POV:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-12-years-audits-very-141036901.html

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rehmwa 2]

kallend

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Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

I think Romney's low tax rate underscored problems with the tax code as pertains to hedge fund managers very nicely.


sure, the Obama campaign only used this to talk about the tax code and simplifications they'd like to implement

they never used it as bait to bad mouth Romney -

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[rushmc 23]

rehmwa

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Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

I think Romney's low tax rate underscored problems with the tax code as pertains to hedge fund managers very nicely.


sure, the Obama campaign only used this to talk about the tax code and simplifications they'd like to implement

they never used it as bait to bad mouth Romney -

Hell
Harry Reid Lied about Romney not paying taxes
When called on it he said, worked didn't it?"

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[turtlespeed 226]

rushmc

*********

Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

I think Romney's low tax rate underscored problems with the tax code as pertains to hedge fund managers very nicely.


sure, the Obama campaign only used this to talk about the tax code and simplifications they'd like to implement

they never used it as bait to bad mouth Romney -

Hell
Harry Reid Lied about Romney not paying taxes
When called on it he said, worked didn't it?"

Love those scruples.

If ya know you can't beat them - lie about them.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rehmwa 2]

turtlespeed

Love those scruples.

If ya know you can't beat them - lie about them.

liberal politics -
1 - people don't like certain tax laws
2 - everybody follows the tax laws both Reps and Dems
3 - Liberals use #2 to try and belittle a Rep for election reasons. They ignore the same of Dems.
4 - Kallend thinks that #3 = #1. By definition (i.e., something bad - is clearly proven if twisted to shore up a Dems election chances)

Now, Reps are also using #4 it on Reps (therefore Kallend is a Rep )


funny, libertarians just start and end at #1

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[billvon 3,120]

Only if they would be entertaining. If he's deducting the "escorts" he uses during his business functions, for example, then by all means release them. That, at least, would focus the discussion on more substantive issues than it is focusing on now.

[brenthutch 444]

I'm thinking the "UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!" amount of money he gives to veterans groups might be zero.

[kallend 2,150]

rushmc

*********

Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

I think Romney's low tax rate underscored problems with the tax code as pertains to hedge fund managers very nicely.


sure, the Obama campaign only used this to talk about the tax code and simplifications they'd like to implement

they never used it as bait to bad mouth Romney -

Hell
Harry Reid Lied about Romney not paying taxes
When called on it he said, worked didn't it?"

Oh dear!
www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

************

Instead of using these as opportunities to discuss the problems of our out of control tax code (real issue), they just try to score points with voters (strawman).

I think Romney's low tax rate underscored problems with the tax code as pertains to hedge fund managers very nicely.


sure, the Obama campaign only used this to talk about the tax code and simplifications they'd like to implement

they never used it as bait to bad mouth Romney -

Hell
Harry Reid Lied about Romney not paying taxes
When called on it he said, worked didn't it?"

Oh dear!
www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html

They only fact check things that "catch their eye"
So the whole article is shot.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[brenthutch 444]

It confirms the the left-wing bias of the NYT. To sum up, folks with whom we disagree are liars.

[turtlespeed 226]

brenthutch

It confirms the the left-wing bias of the NYT. To sum up, folks with whom we disagree are liars.

Candidate A: Rebublican - we disagree with him.
1) 100 statements made
2) we fact checked 5 statements that caught our eye.
3) ALL 5 STATEMENTS WERE FALSE - 100% liar

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun