Charles Koch tosses a refrigerator into Hell

[kallend 2,175]

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-koch-this-is-the-one-issue-where-bernie-sanders-is-right/2016/02/18/cdd2c228-d5c1-11e5-be55-2cc3c1e4b76b_story.html?wpisrc=nl_draw2

The senator [Sanders] is upset with a political and economic system that is often rigged to help the privileged few at the expense of everyone else, particularly the least advantaged. He believes that we have a two-tiered society that increasingly dooms millions of our fellow citizens to lives of poverty and hopelessness. He thinks many corporations seek and benefit from corporate welfare while ordinary citizens are denied opportunities and a level playing field.

I agree with him.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

I was quite astonished when I read that yesterday.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Clearly he is full of shit. The poor are only poor because they are too lazy to work and get hand outs.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

On a more serious note:

The timing of this is interesting. Might be getting to a point where subsidies for non-oil and gas based resource development and use is going to outweigh the value of oil and gas subsidies.

It might soon be much better for Koch industries to have no subsidies as opposed to subsidies for renewable resources, electric cars etc.

[brenthutch 444]

Many on the right agree with Senator Sanders' diagnosis:

Big business + big government = screwed citizenry

We diverge with his prescription of bigger government being the solution.

[winsor 236]

brenthutch

Many on the right agree with Senator Sanders' diagnosis:

Big business + big government = screwed citizenry

We diverge with his prescription of bigger government being the solution.

Bingo.

The issue is not so much agreeing on what constitutes a problem as it is what constitutes a solution.

We might all conclude that Saddam Hussein was a Bad Man (tm), but some of us contended that attacking Iraq to address this 'problem' was lunacy at best. Okay, so everything worked out for the best, and we have entered an age of peace and prosperity, but you get the drift.

Our legislators are largely Attorneys, and are subject to the principle that, when one's only tool is a hammer one tends to see every problem as a nail. The legal system is one of brute force and ignorance, poorly suited to elegance and finesse. There is a patina of bullshit, whereby one wielding a cudgel thinks of its use as a caress.

I think that Sanders' long suit is that he does not appeal to the intellect. Taylor Caldwell's contention that 5% of the population think, 5% think they think, and 90% would rather die than think provides the kind of numbers whereby Sanders may prevail. Remember that elections are won by those that appeal to the lowest common denominator amongst the electorate, and I suspect Sanders may have hit the jackpot.

No big deal, the rest of the candidates are like the Special Olympics coming out of the Pet Cemetery. If there is nothing else exceptional about our country, the ability to put forth such an assortment of cretins is truly amazing.


BSBD,

Winsor

[billvon 3,131]

> Remember that elections are won by those that appeal to the lowest common denominator amongst
>the electorate, and I suspect Sanders may have hit the jackpot.

I think Trump has got that voter demographic pretty much sewn up. If Sanders is looking for the bottom-of-the-bell-curve denizens that Trump missed, he's going to find pretty slim pickings I think.

[winsor 236]

billvon

> Remember that elections are won by those that appeal to the lowest common denominator amongst
>the electorate, and I suspect Sanders may have hit the jackpot.

I think Trump has got that voter demographic pretty much sewn up. If Sanders is looking for the bottom-of-the-bell-curve denizens that Trump missed, he's going to find pretty slim pickings I think.

Have faith, Grasshopper - the supply of stupidity amongst the electorate is limitless.

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SkyDekker

Clearly he is full of shit. The poor are only poor because they are too lazy to work and get hand outs.

THIS. By far. From what I've seen. Sure there are a smaller percentage of those that can't help it (old, disabled, etc) but the majority are just lazy good for nothing assholes.

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ryoder

I was quite astonished when I read that yesterday.

Probably a plug for Bernie in hopes of him getting the democratic nomination so that the republicans have an easier opponent in November.

Here's the Koch brothers' latest: a new group to spend $10 million annually to promote traditional vehicles and stunt the rising popularity of electric vehicles.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-electric-vehicles_us_56c4d63ce4b0b40245c8cbf6

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.