Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia dead at 79

[kallend 2,148]

Commentary from one of my faculty colleagues:

www.cnn.com/2016/02/16/opinions/antonin-scalia-shapiro/index.html

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

An interesting exchange on Slashdot:

[original post]
The one that just died was famous for digging through the historical records to try to determine what the authors of the Constitution might have thought instead of going by whichever way today's wind is blowing. What exactly do you have in mind when you want 'apolitical'?


[response]
When it suited his beliefs, yes. Scalia used historical records like a drunk uses a lamppost -- for support, rather than illumination.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[normiss 897]

Are you not entertained?

[kallend 2,148]

A former Justice weighs in:

www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/politics/sandra-day-oconnor-obama-scalia-replacement/

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

Additionally, dating to the present, while senators have rejected three of five nominees appointed in the last six months of a president's term (before an election), they have confirmed 21 of 24 nominees submitted within the last year of a president's term. The success rate for these appointments (87.5%) roughly matches the overall confirmation rate (86.9%) for Supreme Court justices.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/15/opinions/power-to-choose-new-justice-rosenwald/

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[normiss 897]

Also of note, Glenn Beck is fucking loony.

[ryoder 1,590]

Omigawd!
Just when I thought Beck was dialing back the loony, he goes right over the top.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Elisha 1]

Wondering what those of both sides think of this potential nominee:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/r-kyle-alagood/a-hardtoobstruct-supreme-_b_9237712.html

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Wonder who paid for that trip to the private luxury ranch.

[Boomerdog 0]

Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

You remind of of my "lib" brother. You both could be walking in a park and if a statue looked at the both of you the wrong way, you'd argue for hours with it.

But I still love him.

[kallend 2,148]

Boomerdog

Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[BartsDaddy 7]

kallend

***Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

I may have a heart attack, I agree with this.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[turtlespeed 226]

BartsDaddy

******Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

I may have a heart attack, I agree with this.

Problem is, that is just as likely as electing a president that doesn't lie.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[gowlerk 2,275]

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Problem is, that is just as likely as electing a president that doesn't lie.

How the hell could anyone possibly get through that process without lying? Politicians are people, voters are people, people lie. Some people call it "bluffing" so they don't have to use the L word. A politician that does not lie would be incompetent. You can't handle the truth, at least not all the time.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[BartsDaddy 7]

gowlerk

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Problem is, that is just as likely as electing a president that doesn't lie.

How the hell could anyone possibly get through that process without lying? Politicians are people, voters are people, people lie. Some people call it "bluffing" so they don't have to use the L word. A politician that does not lie would be incompetent. You can't handle the truth, at least not all the time.

I would much prefer to be told the truth regardless if I like it or not, than to be told a lie. I guess your ok with dealing with liars.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[kallend 2,148]

BartsDaddy

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Problem is, that is just as likely as electing a president that doesn't lie.

How the hell could anyone possibly get through that process without lying? Politicians are people, voters are people, people lie. Some people call it "bluffing" so they don't have to use the L word. A politician that does not lie would be incompetent. You can't handle the truth, at least not all the time.

I would much prefer to be told the truth regardless if I like it or not, than to be told a lie. I guess your ok with dealing with liars.
You must hate these guys then.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[gowlerk 2,275]

BartsDaddy

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Problem is, that is just as likely as electing a president that doesn't lie.

How the hell could anyone possibly get through that process without lying? Politicians are people, voters are people, people lie. Some people call it "bluffing" so they don't have to use the L word. A politician that does not lie would be incompetent. You can't handle the truth, at least not all the time.

I would much prefer to be told the truth regardless if I like it or not, than to be told a lie. I guess your ok with dealing with liars.


I understand your feeling, and that my view is cynical. But really, politics is the art of making people believe in the possibilities, not the realities.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[rehmwa 2]

BartsDaddy

******Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

I may have a heart attack, I agree with this.

So he wants a judge that spends a lot of time looking at original intent, trying to be objective about it, and not letting personal biases get him away from original intent..........

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[kallend 2,148]

rehmwa

*********Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

I may have a heart attack, I agree with this.

So he wants a judge that spends a lot of time looking at original intent, trying to be objective about it, and not letting personal biases get him away from original intent..........

Indeed - which is not someone like Scalia who refused to consider "intent" even when clearly stated.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rehmwa 2]

kallend

Indeed - which is not someone like Scalia who refused to consider "intent" even when clearly stated.

no worry then - I don't think Obama or the next guy will nominate Scalia - I think a dead citizen, even if he has a lot of experience in the actual job - will be nominated.

but if Kagan is any indication.....an absolute paragon of social and political agenda objectivity

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[rushmc 23]

kallend

************Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

I may have a heart attack, I agree with this.

So he wants a judge that spends a lot of time looking at original intent, trying to be objective about it, and not letting personal biases get him away from original intent..........

Indeed - which is not someone like Scalia who refused to consider "intent" even when clearly stated.

Intent of the founders
Not the congress

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,148]

rushmc

***************Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

I may have a heart attack, I agree with this.

So he wants a judge that spends a lot of time looking at original intent, trying to be objective about it, and not letting personal biases get him away from original intent..........

Indeed - which is not someone like Scalia who refused to consider "intent" even when clearly stated.

Intent of the founders
Not the congress

Wrong again.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

It appears at this time that the GOP will follow then Sen. Biden and now Sen. Schumer's advice regarding a SC nominee in the end of the Presidents term.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

kallend

******************Wow!
What an oratory!

Let's distill it down to the LCD.
It's about power.
I don't want the Supreme Court Swinging Left. You do.

Y

I'd prefer a SC that judges cases on their merits, and justices whose positions can't be predicted ahead of time based on the party of the president who nominated them.

Right now we only seem to have one of those, and he's marginal in that respect.

I may have a heart attack, I agree with this.

So he wants a judge that spends a lot of time looking at original intent, trying to be objective about it, and not letting personal biases get him away from original intent..........

Indeed - which is not someone like Scalia who refused to consider "intent" even when clearly stated.

Intent of the founders
Not the congress

Wrong again.

Nope
Not wrong
The SC primary job is to uphold the Constitution.

To follow the intent of a congress would at time go against their oath .

I know that is not the progress view but, that does not make you correct.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[gowlerk 2,275]

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The SC primary job is to uphold the Constitution.

Oh, if it could only be so simple. Then you would not need an odd number, would you? You should read about the role of your SC. It has many roles. But the one you are talking about is actually "interpreting" the constitution. There's the rub.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.