turtlespeed 226 #1 February 6, 2016 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/02/joachim-hagopian/iowa-voter-fraud-circus/I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #2 February 6, 2016 Interesting? Sure, in a fictional, tin foil hat kind of way.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #3 February 7, 2016 I'll raise you with an Interesting article on voter suppression. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #4 February 7, 2016 wmw999I'll raise you with an Interesting article on voter suppression. Wendy P. I don't agree 100% with what the lawmakers have done. I would say voter ID should be available and no cost. I don't understand how you can be a registered voter, and not have ID. That just doesn't make any sense to me. The biggest flaw in your "raise" is that nothing in your article is fraud. It may be disputed, but it is not fraud.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #5 February 7, 2016 Well, I wasn't addressing fraud, just another partisan article that takes a one-sided view of an issue. But people who don't drive, have never driven, and will never drive, should be able to vote. People who work in low-paying jobs, and cash jobs, should be able to vote. This is something that might be less of a problem in 20 years; the need for ID seems to be more pervasive than it used to be. But there's a large population of people, particularly poor people, who don't have ID, and for whom getting it is, in fact, an expense and a problem. Look up Operation ID in Houston. The waiting line is long (I've brought people there). While I'm not sure that encouraging people who are too damaged to have ID to vote is the best thing, it's their right, and, frankly, if it's incentive for someone to start to rejoin society then great. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 February 7, 2016 wmw999 Well, I wasn't addressing fraud, just another partisan article that takes a one-sided view of an issue. But people who don't drive, have never driven, and will never drive, should be able to vote. People who work in low-paying jobs, and cash jobs, should be able to vote. This is something that might be less of a problem in 20 years; the need for ID seems to be more pervasive than it used to be. But there's a large population of people, particularly poor people, who don't have ID, and for whom getting it is, in fact, an expense and a problem. Look up Operation ID in Houston. The waiting line is long (I've brought people there). While I'm not sure that encouraging people who are too damaged to have ID to vote is the best thing, it's their right, and, frankly, if it's incentive for someone to start to rejoin society then great. Wendy P. I'm not disagreeing with the last half of your post. Stating that the article is biased because it only says the Hillary camp was committing voter fraud is not exactly honest. I searched for someone somewhere writing an article about the conservative camp having any voter fraud in the Iowa Caucus. There was a Trumped up allegation that is just whining and posturing, but nothing else evidenced on video or even dropped as an accusation plus it was from the Blaze - so - yeah - You can look at this as well - look at the picture of the count earlier . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #7 February 7, 2016 wmw999 Well, I wasn't addressing fraud, just another partisan article that takes a one-sided view of an issue. But people who don't drive, have never driven, and will never drive, should be able to vote. People who work in low-paying jobs, and cash jobs, should be able to vote. This is something that might be less of a problem in 20 years; the need for ID seems to be more pervasive than it used to be. But there's a large population of people, particularly poor people, who don't have ID, and for whom getting it is, in fact, an expense and a problem. Look up Operation ID in Houston. The waiting line is long (I've brought people there). While I'm not sure that encouraging people who are too damaged to have ID to vote is the best thing, it's their right, and, frankly, if it's incentive for someone to start to rejoin society then great. Wendy P. As is always pointed out, rights can be regulated. This is regulation, not infringement....."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,587 #8 February 7, 2016 Ok, now I read at least most of the article. Besides conflating Bill Gates with Microsoft, it only looks at the democratic side. It's failure to report anything in the Republican side isnt evidence of there being nothing, it's evidence of a focus on one side only Cruz's voter "report card" and "Carson is out" tweet are both pretty clear indicators that neither side is above testing the limits of the law, appropriate behavior, or fair play. So what else is new I probably won't vote for Hillary, unless it's Cruz (at least at the moment -- Rubio absolutely did not impress me last night). But one doesn't discount anything at this early stage. Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #9 February 10, 2016 QuoteAs is always pointed out, rights can be regulated. This is regulation, not infringement.....Sly rights can be regulated unless we are talking about guns and abortions.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #10 February 10, 2016 tkhayes Quote As is always pointed out, rights can be regulated. This is regulation, not infringement.....Sly rights can be regulated unless we are talking about guns and abortions.... Nice dead pan.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 February 15, 2016 "Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Voting" (HBO) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFOwlMCdto Jump ahead to 10:40 to see the rampant voter fraud they found."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
