The Muslim rape of Germany

[Texbubba 0]

Banning muslims - Other than banning the import of an entire group of people. how do you propose letting in the decent and keeping out those who have stated quite publicly that they are coming to kill you and destroy your way of life?

[normiss 897]

As well as emotionally escalating the situation by using the wrong wording.
A simple theft would not result in a charge of murder, but they keep throwing out words that do not apply to the assaults.
Then, chose to use a scary word to equate them to terrorists.

It's like reading a Fox news feed.

[Texbubba 0]

normiss

As well as emotionally escalating the situation by using the wrong wording.
A simple theft would not result in a charge of murder, but they keep throwing out words that do not apply to the assaults.
Then, chose to use a scary word to equate them to terrorists.

It's like reading a Fox news feed.

Then no rapes happened. I see.

[Rick 67]

well apparently whether it was rape, theft or molestation it was all the "girls" fault anyway.
At least according to one local Imam.

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[normiss 897]

Breitbart???


From searching all the sources I can find, there was a single rape reported during that time frame there but nothing to indicate it was part of the mass assaults.
Real shame to see how disrespected women are in some cultures or interpretations of religion. Some seem to want to move back into the middle ages.

[Rick 67]

regardless of the source I think this shows a basic difference in the clashing cultures.

I thought that we realized a long time ago even if a woman dresses provocatively they are not asking to be molested. Here is a religious leader blaming the victim(s).

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[normiss 897]

I think you're 100% correct.

I'm not a fan of the agenda based sources sometimes used, no matter what their underlying goal is, I prefer to try to find straight, neutral, news sources.
It's getting more difficult to do that every day.

[Rick 67]

not sure if there are any unbiased news sources anymore

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[turtlespeed 226]

normiss

I think you're 100% correct.

I'm not a fan of the agenda based sources sometimes used, no matter what their underlying goal is, I prefer to try to find straight, neutral, news sources.
It's getting more difficult to do that every day.

I don't know if rape in the literal sense was meant in the OP.

How I read it is more like getting fleeced. No not literally fleeced.

Germany is getting raped. The whole country. The German populace is getting fucked without their permission . . . Just Merkel's.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[turtlespeed 226]

Rick

not sure if there are any unbiased news sources anymore

If you can find one that isn't paid by groups of people with interests in anything, there may be.

Anyone that advertises, or donates, or has any payment agreement with the source can include over site in their contract agreements.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[jakee 1,595]

Rick

regardless of the source I think this shows a basic difference in the clashing cultures.

I thought that we realized a long time ago even if a woman dresses provocatively they are not asking to be molested. Here is a religious leader blaming the victim(s).

In that case here are some more groups that fundamentally clash with your culture;

Republicans

Democrats

Bill O'Reilly

Women

Pennsylvania

The people of Salisbury, MD

Quite a lot of english people

Maybe it's just easier to see the flaws in one's neighbour than in one's self.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Rick 67]

okay here is where I bash your sources and then someone tells me I am a crazy right wing racist blah blah blah ad nauseum

never mind

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[normiss 897]

I thought you were a damn liberal!?!

[normiss 897]

Florida Republican



But I can get my boy tubes cut in a neighborhood clinic, knee surgery at an outpatient center, etc.
Why can't "these women" control their own uterus???
Republican party says they want fiscally conservative representation and less government, but it doesn't look that way to me.
At least this will get shot down by the courts. After the state wastes how many millions.

[okalb 104]

Rick

I thought that we realized a long time ago even if a woman dresses provocatively they are not asking to be molested. Here is a religious leader blaming the victim(s).

While I don't disagree, we have Christian "religious leaders" here in the US that claim 9/11 happened because of homosexuals. We have ones that claim Marijuana is the root of all evil.

My point is that you consider the people that make those claims to be nut jobs that don't represent average Christians. These "religious leaders" that blame the victims are in the same category as far as I am concerned. Extremist nut jobs and nothing more. Why is it that people have no problem using their statements as proof rather than writing off what they say as the ramblings of a lunatic that is no different than Fred Phelps or Jerry Fallwell?

Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana

[jakee 1,595]

Rick

okay here is where I bash your sources and then someone tells me I am a crazy right wing racist blah blah blah ad nauseum

Or instead you could say to yourself "Hey, that might be true. Maybe when I see Muslims saying bad things I think their culture is horrible, but when I see westerners saying the same things I only think that our culture has horrible people in it. Maybe I need to be more careful about how I perceive the world."

But thinking is so overrated

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 897]

Since when did "westerners" become a religion?
Muslim culture isn't inherently horrible, just some of the extremist views and interpretations are.
Much like christianity for that matter.

But thinking is so overrated.

[christelsabine 1]

turtlespeed

Germany is getting raped. The whole country. The German populace is getting fucked without their permission . . . Just Merkel's.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2016/01/20/worlds-best-country/79044916/

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[RonD1120 62]

turtlespeed

***not sure if there are any unbiased news sources anymore

If you can find one that isn't paid by groups of people with interests in anything, there may be.

Anyone that advertises, or donates, or has any payment agreement with the source can include over site in their contract agreements.

FYI: Blaze TV is funded by the viewers and small companies for the most part.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[jakee 1,595]

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Since when did "westerners" become a religion?

Who said they did? Rick was talking about cultures. One cuture being Muslims as represented by the Imam, the other culture including Germans as well as whoever Rick identifies as "we" is pretty clearly Western culture.

It's easy when you think about it

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Rick 67]

you guys are right there are crazy extremist on both every side


Do you think there are any fundamental differences in the way women are treated in the west compared to Islamic countries? Maybe not as extreme as the blame the victim Imam. I have read the horror stories about rape victims in Dubai, the rape of the reporter in Egypt and the female castrations in some African countries.
Is it not a cultural thing? Or am I buying into the bias reporting??

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[normiss 897]

Until America and Russia started swinging their military dicks through that part of the world, most of the countries with those issues now were fairly westernized.
Then and now

[jakee 1,595]

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Do you think there are any fundamental differences in the way women are treated in the west compared to Islamic countries? Maybe not as extreme as the blame the victim Imam. I have read the horror stories about rape victims in Dubai, the rape of the reporter in Egypt and the female castrations in some African countries.

Oh sure, I think there are some huge differences, and I despise some of those countries.

However, I also think that a lot of the differences come from the economic and political circumstances of those countries. Most of the Gulf states are at best semi-democratic and at worst totalitarian dictatorships where the ruling families have made long standing Faustian pacts with extremist religious sects allowing them to impose their ideology on the populace. For reference imagine if Michelle Bachmann was Queen of the USA and gave Fred Phelp's mob legal authority to punish immoral behaviour.

In other areas like Syria, Egypt and various tinpot north and central African republics then poor, wartorn countries with corrupt and ineffective governments provide fertile breeding grounds for extremist groups. Plenty of white Christians in the Balkans in the mid '90s weren't behaving themselves too well either. Heck, I'd be amazed if there wasn't a wave of rapes and sexual assaults in relatively small scale civil disturbances like the Watts riots.

Reducing the number of backwards thinking Muslims here in the west will come from (IMO) integration and education of communities, not vilification of their religion (apart from pointing out how all religion sucks, obviously). People only tend to get more insular when threatened. Reducing the number of backwards thinking Muslims in other parts of the world will mostly come with economic and political develoment, if that can happen.

Until then, and given the impact of centuries of global terror from the West that has greatly contributed to putting these African and Middle Eastern countries into the state they're in now if any Muslims (and anyone else) want to escape from them then I think we damn well owe them our help.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Rick 67]

doesn't that just highlight the cultural differences?

I am honestly asking? The sexual abuse of young boys in Afghanistan for instance.
Yes boys are molested in western countries but not as part of our culture. The men that do that here are looked at as scum by the majority of the population. Is that the case in Afghanistan?

I really would like to know.

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!

[Rick 67]

thanks and for this:

jakee

Until then, and given the impact of centuries of global terror from the West that has greatly contributed to putting these African and Middle Eastern countries into the state they're in now if any Muslims (and anyone else) want to escape from them then I think we damn well owe them our help.

I have never looked at it from this perspective and I have to agree.

You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early!