Gun VIOLENCE control

[rushmc 23]

normiss

You triple downed on that one.
Impressive.
Start with a troll comment, get challenged on the lack of logic, confirm said lack of logic, re-question the question with less logic, then call the other poster a troll.
The leaps you take in your logical attempts are sometimes nowhere near the logic you attempt to apply.

His point was that you don't understand logic.
You confirmed it.

Trolling trolling trolling
keep them posters trolling
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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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It is not an issue of a dog
It is an issue of adding a dog
Adding the dog did not increase chewed shoes

I am not going to waste any more time trying to explain logic to you. It wouldn't be very logical after that post.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

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It is not an issue of a dog
It is an issue of adding a dog
Adding the dog did not increase chewed shoes

I am not going to waste any more time trying to explain logic to you. It wouldn't be very logical after that post.

You post this like you have some magical logic to explain!!!

LMFAO

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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You post this like you have some magical logic to explain!!!

I see the problem. You think logic is magic.

[normiss 898]

The only consistent contribution of your posts are the equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?" comments.

I'm disappointed in myself for attempting to communicate with you at all.
Repeatedly.

[JerryBaumchen 1,468]

Hi rush,

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Come on dude
You can do better

I am one of those 'the glass is 1/2 full' types.

That is one of the reasons why I do not support capital punishment; I like to think that while there is life, there is hope.

However, as I follow your recent postings here, I am beginning to think that you cannot do better.

Just an observation,

Jerry Baumchen

[turtlespeed 226]

SkyDekker

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Sure, that was the gun doing what it was told to do.

So the object itself had noting to do with it?

***I said racial census, not nationality census

You seem to try to want to make a point here. What is the point? Toronto is one of the most multi-ethnic cities in the world.

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45.0% White (31.7% non-Hispanic whites);
32.9% Black or African American;
13.4% from some other race;
5.5% Asian (1.6% Chinese, 1.1% Indian, 1.1% Filipino, 0.4% Korean, 0.3% Pakistani, 0.3% Vietnamese, 0.2% Japanese, 0.1% Thai);
2.7% from two or more races;
0.5% American Indian.

Does that help, or are you still being deliberately obtuse.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rushmc 23]

JerryBaumchen

Hi rush,

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Come on dude
You can do better

I am one of those 'the glass is 1/2 full' types.

That is one of the reasons why I do not support capital punishment; I like to think that while there is life, there is hope.

However, as I follow your recent postings here, I am beginning to think that you cannot do better.

Just an observation,

Jerry Baumchen

Well happy observations!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[tonyhays 86]

“If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?”

-- Sam Harris. Definitely applicable.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[billvon 3,120]

>Ever seen a gun chew up a shoe?

Classic RushMC.

Let's imagine what you would say if someone else used such logic:

"Dogs arent the same as guns Stupid libs think dogs are guns."

"But dogs dont have safetes so you can't compare them "

"Too bad Oabama has a dog. Hypocrite."

[cvfd1399 0]

Back to the OP did he ever state a position yet, or did he just come in, stir the pot and run?

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

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Gun violence has note increased even with more guns purchased
So
this indicates guns are not the issue

Your logic is off.

Those like you say that the number of guns in the US and the access to guns is part of the problem

I post that a story that yet again (as it has been for at least the last 6 years) gun sales, gun ownership and access to guns, is setting records yearly if not monthly.

I then remind you that that, according to FBI stats, gun violence has not increased and is in fact trending down as it has been for at least the last 10 years. Now, I never stated that because there are more guns there is less crime because that inference can not be made. However, it also can not be said that access to gun or more guns increased crime as some like you would infer in your posts here.

Then you come back with that nice little turd of a retort, "Your logic is off"

Once that little turd is laid a couple more come in and lay there eggs on it to try and save you



Ya, MY logic is off

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[RonD1120 62]

tonyhays

“If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?”

-- Sam Harris. Definitely applicable.

I never heard of Harris until now but I have been trying to make that point for years.

Perception is reality. Decisions are based primarily on emotion such as anger, depression, fear, guilt, love, pleasure.

Agreed reality between two persons is where their perceptions overlap.

Decisions based solely on statistics and logic lack the quality of human being.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

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Gun violence has note increased even with more guns purchased
So
this indicates guns are not the issue

Your logic is off.

Those like you say that the number of guns in the US and the access to guns is part of the problem

I post that a story that yet again (as it has been for at least the last 6 years) gun sales, gun ownership and access to guns, is setting records yearly if not monthly.

I then remind you that that, according to FBI stats, gun violence has not increased and is in fact trending down as it has been for at least the last 10 years. Now, I never stated that because there are more guns there is less crime because that inference can not be made. However, it also can not be said that access to gun or more guns increased crime as some like you would infer in your posts here.

Then you come back with that nice little turd of a retort, "Your logic is off"

Once that little turd is laid a couple more come in and lay there eggs on it to try and save you



Ya, MY logic is off




Nice strawman. Your logic is off again.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

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Gun violence has note increased even with more guns purchased
So
this indicates guns are not the issue

Your logic is off.

Those like you say that the number of guns in the US and the access to guns is part of the problem

I post that a story that yet again (as it has been for at least the last 6 years) gun sales, gun ownership and access to guns, is setting records yearly if not monthly.

I then remind you that that, according to FBI stats, gun violence has not increased and is in fact trending down as it has been for at least the last 10 years. Now, I never stated that because there are more guns there is less crime because that inference can not be made. However, it also can not be said that access to gun or more guns increased crime as some like you would infer in your posts here.

Then you come back with that nice little turd of a retort, "Your logic is off"

Once that little turd is laid a couple more come in and lay there eggs on it to try and save you



Ya, MY logic is off




Nice strawman. Your logic is off again.


Translation

You got nothing

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Rush, you are right I have nothing to argue with a person who thinks that when a bomb is dropped on a village and kills the population, then subsequent bombs are dropped obviously killing no one, that bombs clearly were never a problem since an increase in bombs didn't increase the body count.

Such logical reasoning is indeed hard, if not impossible to counter and well beyond my abilities to deal with.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

Rush, you are right I have nothing to argue with a person who thinks that when a bomb is dropped on a village and kills the population, then subsequent bombs are dropped obviously killing no one, that bombs clearly were never a problem since an increase in bombs didn't increase the body count.

Such logical reasoning is indeed hard, if not impossible to counter and well beyond my abilities to deal with.

Now we are talking about bombs
And you call my post a strawman


You just cant get over the fact that guns are not the issue

Even when presented with data that infers the point

Well, at least you recognize your serious limitations

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[turtlespeed 226]

rushmc

***Rush, you are right I have nothing to argue with a person who thinks that when a bomb is dropped on a village and kills the population, then subsequent bombs are dropped obviously killing no one, that bombs clearly were never a problem since an increase in bombs didn't increase the body count.

Such logical reasoning is indeed hard, if not impossible to counter and well beyond my abilities to deal with.

Now we are talking about bombs
And you call my post a strawman


You just cant get over the fact that guns are not the issue

Even when presented with data that infers the point

Well, at least you recognize your serious limitations

Perhaps he believes that the market is completely saturated, so more guns makes no difference.

It seems to me that he may think he has a different point to argue, but will not restate it. The simple "your logic is off" is now an accepted answer now, so I think you are spinning your wheels in willful muck.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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The simple "your logic is off" is now an accepted answer now, so I think you are spinning your wheels in willful muck.

There was no question, hence "your logic is off" wasn't an answer.

Rush made a statement, the logic was flawed in that statement. It was pointed out to him, by multiple people. He then basically responded that he was completely right and everybody else was an idiot.

If his wheels are spinning in willful muck, it is completely due to his own will.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

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The simple "your logic is off" is now an accepted answer now, so I think you are spinning your wheels in willful muck.

There was no question, hence "your logic is off" wasn't an answer.

Rush made a statement, the logic was flawed in that statement. It was pointed out to him, by multiple people. He then basically responded that he was completely right and everybody else was an idiot.

If his wheels are spinning in willful muck, it is completely due to his own will.

No
My logic is not flawed.
You just do not like or accept it as reasonable.
If you feel like you were called an idiot then so be it but I had nothing to do with that
The willful muck I am dealing with is you.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rushmc

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The simple "your logic is off" is now an accepted answer now, so I think you are spinning your wheels in willful muck.

There was no question, hence "your logic is off" wasn't an answer.

Rush made a statement, the logic was flawed in that statement. It was pointed out to him, by multiple people. He then basically responded that he was completely right and everybody else was an idiot.

If his wheels are spinning in willful muck, it is completely due to his own will.

No
My logic is not flawed.
You just do not like or accept it as reasonable.
If you fell like you were called an idiot then so be it but I had nothing to do with that
The willful muck I am dealing with is you.

Thank you for proving my point.

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

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The simple "your logic is off" is now an accepted answer now, so I think you are spinning your wheels in willful muck.

There was no question, hence "your logic is off" wasn't an answer.

Rush made a statement, the logic was flawed in that statement. It was pointed out to him, by multiple people. He then basically responded that he was completely right and everybody else was an idiot.

If his wheels are spinning in willful muck, it is completely due to his own will.

No
My logic is not flawed.
You just do not like or accept it as reasonable.
If you fell like you were called an idiot then so be it but I had nothing to do with that
The willful muck I am dealing with is you.

Thank you for proving my point.

Go back to your puppies and bombs

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 898]

The insults when people disagree with you really show your intent.
OK, blast away.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

The insults when people disagree with you really show your intent.
OK, blast away.

Irony score of over a 100



Did you call Sky out for his insults????

noooooooooo

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 898]

What do you think about the President's intent on tightening the background check requirements?