billvon 3,114 #1 December 21, 2015 Seems that when you foment racial hatred - sometimes people then act on that hatred. Who'd a thunk it? ================ Trump supporter charged in plot to bomb Muslims: ‘I’ll follow this MAN to the end of the world’ 21 Dec 2015 at 09:52 ET A Donald Trump supporter was arrested after police detonated an explosive device they believe he planned to use against Muslims. Police received a tip Thursday that 55-year-old William Celli, of Richmond, California, was making explosive devices and threatening to harm Muslims. Officers evacuated his neighborhood Sunday morning and detonated a suspicious device found in Celli’s home. Police have not yet determined if the homemade device was inert or active, but they said the reported threats greatly concerned law enforcement officers. Celli posts frequently on his Facebook account, where he complains about Syrian refugees, Democrats and insufficiently conservative Republicans. He appears to be a strong admirer of GOP frontrunner Donald Trump — who has been fanning the flames of anti-Muslim hysteria in the wake of mass shootings in Paris and San Bernardino, California. “Donald trumps on again I’m happy leaders okay but this guys a great point man I’ll follow this MAN to the end of the world,” Celli posted Oct. 21. “Donald Trump’s on again I’m feeling good about myself,” he posted Oct. 28. The self-employed plumber complained last year that he had lost work to undocumented migrants — who he believes have “invaded” the U.S. and to draw welfare benefits. “I have lost 30%of my business to to Hispanics coming to my country under false pretenses an and freeload in construction or in the blue collar sector they need to go back home lets not talk about the welfare they suck dry,” he posted in June 2014. Celli posted more recently that he had more free time than usual, and he frequently complained that he had not been sleeping well. Two brothers from Boston echoed Trump’s comments against Hispanic immigrants after they were arrested for beating and urinating on a Latino homeless man in August — and the candidate at first defended them. “I will say that people who are following me are very passionate,” Trump said. “They love this country and they want this country to be great again. They are passionate.” Trump later described the attack as “terrible.” ====================== http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/trump-supporter-charged-in-plot-to-bomb-muslims-ill-follow-this-man-to-the-end-of-the-world/#.Vng77xWjEPg.twitter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #2 December 21, 2015 Ooh you mean like the Black lives matter and Black Panther members advocating killing cops. Then cops get assassinated... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,275 #3 December 21, 2015 cvfd1399Ooh you mean like the Black lives matter and Black Panther members advocating killing cops. Then cops get assassinated... Yes, exactly, you've figured it out. Both are equally evil.Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 343 #4 December 21, 2015 So, according to this nut job, illegals are taking skilled-labor jobs AND welfare? That's pretty impressive.Then again, he thinks that construction and blue-collar jobs are places to "freeload." Yeah, okay. There's a real go-getter there. See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #5 December 21, 2015 QuoteYes, exactly, you've figured it out. Both are equally evil. I knew that a long time ago and have already stated I was voting sanders if it comes down to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 36 #6 December 22, 2015 I don't buy the implied causality here and I'm rather surprised that you do. According to one news source there have been 38 anti-Muslim attacks in the U.S. since the November attacks in Paris. Are you chalking this particular one (or all of them if you prefer) to Trump on the basis of "...appears to be a strong admirer..." ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #7 December 22, 2015 If he were a real terrorist...you wouldn't be hearing about him...until it was too late. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #8 December 22, 2015 Yes, even the moderators troll.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 December 22, 2015 Opps https://www.facebook.com/william.celli.5/posts/448757125311895 Are there still consequences??? Quote The mainstream media are reporting that a Bay Area plumber who allegedly planned to bomb a California mosque was a Donald Trump supporter–though he explicitly supported Hillary Clinton. Such as sad state of afairs huh Bill... Quote What the media left out, however, is that Celli also praised Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton. In one post, Celli wrote: “Hillary Would make a great president. If she would commit to what she is hiding. But she has to crucify the president. Then her run for the White house is over.” Ya And the media is not in the tank for Hillary But you must be....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 December 22, 2015 How about this one Bill Does this fit your narrative as well? http://www.redstate.com/2015/11/10/watch-hillary-clinton-laugh-man-threatens-strangle-carly-fiorina/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 December 22, 2015 How about this one Bill? Remember when the Dems went all ape shit over Sarah Palin using targets on a US map? They stated she was calling for violence against Democrats?? Remember? Well how about this one? Used years before Palin and DOES talk about being behind enemy lines and call republicans "ripe targets". Is this somehow different? http://vocalminority.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f8c22b7883401311002fde9970c-popup"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 December 22, 2015 Yet another http://twitchy.com/2012/12/11/new-tone-mich-democrat-threatens-violence-over-right-to-work-vote-there-will-be-blood/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 December 22, 2015 15 quotes regarding violence http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2010/03/30/violent_liberal_hate_rhetoric_fifteen_quotes/page/full Do all these fall under the same umbrella as your OP? Or, are they somehow different???"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #14 December 22, 2015 Quote The mainstream media are reporting that a Bay Area plumber who allegedly planned to bomb a California mosque was a Donald Trump supporter–though he explicitly supported Hillary Clinton. "Donald trumps on again I'm happy leaders okay but this guys a great point man I'll follow this MAN to the end of the world" Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #15 December 22, 2015 QuoteWell how about this one? Used years before Palin and DOES talk about being behind enemy lines and call republicans "ripe targets". No it doesn't.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #16 December 22, 2015 >I don't buy the implied causality here and I'm rather surprised that you do. When you foment hate, people often act on it. If you tell people that Muslims are the enemy, and say it often enough, and your opinion is widely promulgated - you might be taken seriously. And that means someone may act on that idea and try to kill Muslims. If you tell people that Planned Parenthood is selling baby parts for profit, and doctor videos to make it look that way, and say it often enough, and your opinion is widely promulgated - you might be taken seriously. And that means someone may just go on a killing spree based on those words. If you tell people that all cops are evil, and say it often enough, and your opinion is widely promulgated - you might be taken seriously. And that means someone might start killing cops based on that opinion. If you tell people that vaccines cause autism, and say it often enough, and your opinion is widely promulgated - you might be taken seriously. And that means vaccination rates may drop, and people may die of completely preventable diseases. That does not mean the person with the opinions is responsible for the outcome; the people committing the violence or building the bombs or refusing to vaccinate are the guilty parties. But fomenting hate and fear has the inevitable result of encouraging people to act on that hate and fear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #17 December 22, 2015 >If he were a real terrorist...you wouldn't be hearing about him...until it was too late. So Richard Reid wasn't a real terrorist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 December 22, 2015 billvon >I don't buy the implied causality here and I'm rather surprised that you do. When you foment hate, people often act on it. . Only if you are a Republican In your mind anyway"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #19 December 22, 2015 rushmc ***>I don't buy the implied causality here and I'm rather surprised that you do. When you foment hate, people often act on it. . Only if you are a Republican In your mind anywayYes, that is why he gave a pretty wide range of examples spanning the political spectrum.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #20 December 24, 2015 Wow...you took a long time thinking about that one, pulling it out of the hat and putting it here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #21 December 24, 2015 >Only if you are a Republican You didn't even read the post you replied to, did you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 December 24, 2015 billvon>Only if you are a Republican You didn't even read the post you replied to, did you. Merry Christmas Bill. I hope this note finds you and all here healthy and happy with family and friends"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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