rehmwa 2 #26 December 14, 2015 aphid***>Remember the old picture of the video phone developed by ATT? >No, not the only one, but the one I have experience with. >( my grandfather helped in the design and attempted implementation) >The US government wouldn't allow AT&T to market it to the general public. >It was too advanced for what they considered safe. It was also able to be >"hacked" too easily. The US government had no problem with AT&T selling it to the general public. The phone lines of the time simply couldn't support the bandwidth needed. A few were indeed sold, but only to places that had the money and resources to install dedicated video lines. Grand Central Station had a few, as did about a dozen big companies. They weren't that popular due to their cost. It wasn't until the 1990's that video phones that could run on POTS lines (i.e. conventional phone lines) were available. Haven't you been paying attention? It's Obama's fault. either that, or Halliburton, or assault rifles whichever ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #27 December 14, 2015 LOL Not in any way whatsoever. What's "VO"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 December 14, 2015 rehmwa******>Remember the old picture of the video phone developed by ATT? >No, not the only one, but the one I have experience with. >( my grandfather helped in the design and attempted implementation) >The US government wouldn't allow AT&T to market it to the general public. >It was too advanced for what they considered safe. It was also able to be >"hacked" too easily. The US government had no problem with AT&T selling it to the general public. The phone lines of the time simply couldn't support the bandwidth needed. A few were indeed sold, but only to places that had the money and resources to install dedicated video lines. Grand Central Station had a few, as did about a dozen big companies. They weren't that popular due to their cost. It wasn't until the 1990's that video phones that could run on POTS lines (i.e. conventional phone lines) were available. Haven't you been paying attention? It's Obama's fault. either that, or Halliburton, or assault rifles whichever You know deep inside that it is really all bush's fault, and if you can't blame Bush, blame Reagan.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,609 #29 December 14, 2015 QuoteWhat I believe the spirit of the 50 thing is to bring back the work ethic and the best parts of the moral ethics found in that era. It would need to be tempered with today's tech savvy people And with the best bits of todays ethics. In some moral areas we are waaaaay ahead of the old timers.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #30 December 14, 2015 normissLOL Not in any way whatsoever. What's "VO"? Phat fingers. VP- video phone. In the order in which he worked on them.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #31 December 14, 2015 I thought that was what you meant, just wanted to be sure. Was his punch card work at AT&T as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #32 December 14, 2015 GeorgiaDonWhat military officers have been "purged" by Onama? Don Truth or Fiction states that the rumor is true. https://www.truthorfiction.com/military-purge/ The following link was taken from the above mentioned site and is quoted therein as well. http://www.standupamericaus.org/breaking-news/obama-purging-the-military-197-officers-in-5-years/Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #33 December 14, 2015 Here's one general who was "purged": ==== Report: Pentagon reprimands Army general after 3-year misconduct investigation By Doug G. Ware June 21, 2015 at 10:20 PM ARLINGTON, Va., June 21 (UPI) -- Following a lengthy investigation by the U.S. Department of Defense, a key Army commander who was responsible for training Iraqis to fight the Islamic State was reprimanded earlier this year by the Pentagon for misconduct and will result in his retirement, The Washington Post reported Sunday. According to Defense Department documents obtained by the Post through the Freedom of Information Act, Maj. Gen. Dana J.H. Pittard was the subject of a three-year probe that concluded he engaged in misconduct by steering a defense contract to a firm operated by two former West Point classmates. ==== Let's get him back! His classmates need more government funding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #34 December 14, 2015 I just realized that in the list was: "Eliminate government employee pensions." Are you sure you want that one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,609 #35 December 14, 2015 RonD1120***What military officers have been "purged" by Onama? Don Truth or Fiction states that the rumor is true. https://www.truthorfiction.com/military-purge/ The following link was taken from the above mentioned site and is quoted therein as well. http://www.standupamericaus.org/breaking-news/obama-purging-the-military-197-officers-in-5-years/ Y'know, all those hysterical links and stories say that the turnover of officers under Obama is 'unprecedented' but none of them say what the precedent is. Have any of them bothered to check what the turnover was under Bush, Clinton or Bush or is this another of those "EVIL OBAMA DOESN'T ATTEND FUNCTION THAT oh wait loads of other presidents didn't either"...?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #36 December 14, 2015 You should actually read your links. They are full of bullshit, including the fact that 157 of the 197 senior officers relieved in the "purge" were O-4s. Do you really think Obama has time to give a shit about the political views of Air Force Majors? Gimme a break. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #37 December 14, 2015 normiss I thought that was what you meant, just wanted to be sure. Was his punch card work at AT&T as well? Bell labs.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,471 #38 December 14, 2015 Hi Dan, QuoteDo you really think Obama has time to give a shit about the political views of Air Force Majors? While I realize things change over the years; back when I was in the military, any officer ( of any rank below Colonel ) who failed to get promoted after the 2nd time of going up for promotion, was removed from service. In the Air Force ( where I served ) if they had two years or less until retirement, they could serve out those two years and retire by accepting a demotion to E-4 and serve until they could retire at the highest rank ever held. In 1963 there were the 'infamous' 333; these were 333 Captains who did not make Major. I served with one of them; he did not have the intelligence to sweep the floors in a barn. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #39 December 14, 2015 turtlespeed*********>Remember the old picture of the video phone developed by ATT? >No, not the only one, but the one I have experience with. >( my grandfather helped in the design and attempted implementation) >The US government wouldn't allow AT&T to market it to the general public. >It was too advanced for what they considered safe. It was also able to be >"hacked" too easily. The US government had no problem with AT&T selling it to the general public. The phone lines of the time simply couldn't support the bandwidth needed. A few were indeed sold, but only to places that had the money and resources to install dedicated video lines. Grand Central Station had a few, as did about a dozen big companies. They weren't that popular due to their cost. It wasn't until the 1990's that video phones that could run on POTS lines (i.e. conventional phone lines) were available. Haven't you been paying attention? It's Obama's fault. either that, or Halliburton, or assault rifles whichever You know deep inside that it is really all bush's fault, and if you can't blame Bush, blame Reagan. Blame Andrew Jackson and the Confederate flag.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #40 December 15, 2015 Two passovers and you're out is still the policy in the Army. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #41 December 15, 2015 RonD1120***America doesn't need saving. It's doing just fine. And it will continue to do just fine going forward. Relax. IMO, the legal profession is on top of the heap. Attorneys make a living from the chaos. What chaos? What is it you are so terribly afraid of? BTW, I'm just a public defender. Compared to most attorneys, I don't make that great a living. Thanks for the kind words, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #42 December 15, 2015 RonD1120***What military officers have been "purged" by Onama? Don Truth or Fiction states that the rumor is true. https://www.truthorfiction.com/military-purge/ The following link was taken from the above mentioned site and is quoted therein as well. http://www.standupamericaus.org/breaking-news/obama-purging-the-military-197-officers-in-5-years/ No doubt so he can declare martial law, suspend the next election and continue as president beyond his two terms?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #43 December 15, 2015 Interesting. What sort of "punched cards"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #44 December 15, 2015 >No doubt so he can declare martial law, suspend the next election and >continue as president beyond his two terms?? Well, after he grabbed all the guns, turned the US into an Islamic caliphate and revoked the US Constitution, people won't be so quick to dismiss crazy ideas like that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #45 December 15, 2015 You have what I consider a tough job. I worked with two former defense attorneys. Both gave up their positions in favor of work less stressful. Adequate defense is necessary in our system to make it work. When the bad guy is found guilty it is the defense attorney's responsibility to make certain the conviction cannot be overturned on appeal. To fulfill your duties and responsibilities you have to get close to some really bad guys. Third party professional distance is often hard to maintain.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #46 December 15, 2015 normissInteresting. What sort of "punched cards"? It's difficult for a man that cannot hear understand what I was asking. This is what he described to me.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #47 December 15, 2015 Precisely what I was thinking. The term "punched cards" was sadly pretty much owned by IBM, so the other applications of the word were generally forgotten. Thanks man, always interesting to hear about what was happening then. Such a magical time in electronics, to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #48 December 15, 2015 normiss Precisely what I was thinking. The term "punched cards" was sadly pretty much owned by IBM, so the other applications of the word were generally forgotten. Thanks man, always interesting to hear about what was happening then. Such a magical time in electronics, to me. He told me a story where he had studied it long enough, when some maintenance was needed they removed the cards, the guy promptly dropped the box, and all the cards spilled out like tossing a playing cards in the air. It took him several hours and a little trial and error, but he put the cards back in by memory.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 349 #49 December 15, 2015 RonD1120***BTW, I'm just a public defender. Compared to most attorneys, I don't make that great a living.You have what I consider a tough job. I worked with two former defense attorneys. Both gave up their positions in favor of work less stressful. Adequate defense is necessary in our system to make it work. When the bad guy is found guilty it is the defense attorney's responsibility to make certain the conviction cannot be overturned on appeal. To fulfill your duties and responsibilities you have to get close to some really bad guys. Third party professional distance is often hard to maintain. And yet, Item 29 on your list would deny him a pension upon retirement.See the upside, and always wear your parachute! -- Christopher Titus Shut Up & Jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #50 December 15, 2015 TriGirl ******BTW, I'm just a public defender. Compared to most attorneys, I don't make that great a living. You have what I consider a tough job. I worked with two former defense attorneys. Both gave up their positions in favor of work less stressful. Adequate defense is necessary in our system to make it work. When the bad guy is found guilty it is the defense attorney's responsibility to make certain the conviction cannot be overturned on appeal. To fulfill your duties and responsibilities you have to get close to some really bad guys. Third party professional distance is often hard to maintain. And yet, Item 29 on your list would deny him a pension upon retirement. Who needs a pension with a flat tax and your own social security money being invested however you want? I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites