Close the border!

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Coreeece

******************No intelligent statement ever begins with the phrase “lemme tell you sumptin” as these “backwoods Virginia folk” so cleary illustrate:

http://www.fredericksburg.com/news/local/spotsylvania/islamic-center-of-fredericksburg-will-continue-pursuing-plans-for-a/article_ce9ba8b6-60cd-5546-b782-5056d4dbe2ae.html

Here’s a real example of Americans in danger – from home-grown American religious nutcases:

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/27/us/colorado-shooting-probe/

But that dude is white and probably a Christian, how can we call him a terrorist?

Growing up in the the 90's, the word terrorist brought to mind images of Oklahoma City - however, in 2001 Al-Qaeda effectively stole the title from Mcveigh fair and square.

The Provisional IRA killed far more than McVeigh, yet no-one called for closing the border to Irish catholics.

Why would they?

Same reason as some people think the border should be closed to Syrian refugees following the Paris attack.

Did the IRA claim that "American blood is best, and we will taste it soon."

Have Syrian refugees?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[SivaGanesha 2]

Coreeece

Growing up in the the 90's, the word terrorist brought to mind images of Oklahoma City - however, in 2001 Al-Qaeda effectively stole the title from Mcveigh fair and square.

Growing up in the 70's, when I thought of a 'terrorist' I thought of someone who was part of a specific organization with specific goals. They used terror--both violence and the fear of violence--in an attempt to achieve those ends. It had a very specific definition and it wasn't just an especially evil criminal.

Examples of terrorist organizations from that era included the Front de Libération du Québec, the Symbionese Liberation Army, the Irish Republican Army, and the Red Brigades. For example, the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA) which kidnapped Patty Hearst was rightly described as a terrorist organization because they did so for political reasons. Kidnappers who kidnapped merely for selfish gain (ie for a traditional ransom) would not have been described as terrorists no matter how evil their actions.

Today the term seems to have evolved to the point where any sufficiently evil criminal is described as a terrorist. The term is quickly losing its value as it gets used in non-political situations.

"It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014

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SivaGanesha

Today the term seems to have evolved to the point where any sufficiently evil criminal is described as a terrorist. The term is quickly losing its value as it gets used in non-political situations.

I've had my fill of the "terrorist" label.
There are criminals, and there are military acting under orders of a sovereign nation.
It is one or the other.
"Terrorist" is just a label applied by power-hungry politicians as an excuse for grabbing more power.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[SivaGanesha 2]

ryoder

and there are military acting under orders of a sovereign nation.

In this case it is an act of war not terrorism.

"It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014

[gowlerk 2,274]

McVeigh did have a political agenda, and his act was terrorist in nature. Although his organization was small to non-existent. I suppose a case could also be made that Charles Manson was a political terrorist as well. His goal was to start a race war.

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"Terrorist" is just a label applied by power-hungry politicians as an excuse for grabbing more power.

That's how I felt after 9-11. GB started talking about "war", which I always understood to be something between countries. I thought al qaeda was given an upgrade in status by being treated as more than a criminal organization. But the neo-cons wanted an excuse to invade Iraq, so here we are all these years later. Reaping what was sown.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[Coreeece 2]

SivaGanesha

Today the term seems to have evolved to the point where any sufficiently evil criminal is described as a terrorist. The term is quickly losing its value as it gets used in non-political situations.

I never placed much value on the term to begin with. Perhaps real terrorists should be licensed to avoid all the confusion and limit false claims of responsibility.

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

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Coreeece

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Today the term seems to have evolved to the point where any sufficiently evil criminal is described as a terrorist. The term is quickly losing its value as it gets used in non-political situations.

I never placed much value on the term to begin with. Perhaps real terrorists should be licensed to avoid all the confusion and limit false claims of responsibility.

They'll need a union. And then subsidies and lobbyists.

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[gowlerk 2,274]

rehmwa

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Today the term seems to have evolved to the point where any sufficiently evil criminal is described as a terrorist. The term is quickly losing its value as it gets used in non-political situations.

I never placed much value on the term to begin with. Perhaps real terrorists should be licensed to avoid all the confusion and limit false claims of responsibility.

They'll need a union. And then subsidies and lobbyists.

There needs to be a minimum 5 day waiting period as well. And restrictions for the mentally ill.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

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And restrictions to the mentally ill.

Fixed that for ya.

- Dan G

[billvon 3,110]

>If you have faith in Christ and have the Holy Spirit good works will follow.

Sometimes. Sometimes people can't be bothered. I generally consider the people who _can_ be bothered to be closer to the example set by Christ. Anyone can live the life of a coward and claim on their deathbed that they have suddenly found religion.

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billvon

>If you have faith in Christ and have the Holy Spirit good works will follow.

Sometimes. Sometimes people can't be bothered. I generally consider the people who _can_ be bothered to be closer to the example set by Christ. Anyone can live the life of a coward and claim on their deathbed that they have suddenly found religion.

No argument here. Ted Bundy's salvation bothers me some.

However, God's word provides for salvation at any time the individual is still alive and conscious.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

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And that's yet another reason why religion has no claim on morality. To be an absolute cunt(like Ted Bundy) all your life and at the 11th hour repent and be granted eternal bliss.

That's about as immoral as it gets.

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

[RonD1120 62]

Sweden is in refugee crisis. We need to take emergency steps and soon.

https://www.rt.com/news/324701-sweden-denmark-bridge-close/

One report claims these 14,000 illegals are already in the U.S.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/28/swedish-police-14000-migrants-due-deportation-vanished/

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[kallend 2,146]

RonD1120

Sweden is in refugee crisis. We need to take emergency steps and soon.

https://www.rt.com/news/324701-sweden-denmark-bridge-close/

One report claims these 14,000 illegals are already in the U.S.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/28/swedish-police-14000-migrants-due-deportation-vanished/

If Breitbart reported that the Sun rises in the east I'd still go out and fact-check it.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[RonD1120 62]

From up in my neck of the woods.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[RMK 3]

RonD1120

From up in my neck of the woods.

It's an idiotic sign. Why would anyone admire or take pride in stupidity?

"Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes"

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RMK

***From up in my neck of the woods.

It's an idiotic sign. Why would anyone admire or take pride in stupidity?

It's the American way.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[normiss 892]

The New Yorker agrees.

[gowlerk 2,274]

On a related note. It seems Canada is having a little trouble finding enough Syrian refugees to come to Canada. The UN has gone through some of the camps and asked a few thousand of them to apply. Only 6% took advantage of the opportunity. Tearing yourself away from your life and your family and friends is not always so easy.

Americans please note. Once they are settled here they will have a clear path to Canadian citizenship and a passport. Canadian passport holders pretty much come and go as they please from your country. Watch your backs.

Always remember the brave children who died defending your right to bear arms. Freedom is not free.

[kallend 2,146]

RonD1120

From up in my neck of the woods.

Of course, the San Bernardino shooter was a born-in-the-USA US citizen, and his wife was Pakistani. Clearly a reason to refuse Syrian refugees. I'm sure Jesus would have turned them away too.

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One report claims these 14,000 illegals are already in the U.S.

http://www.breitbart.com/...eportation-vanished/

A) What report? Not that one.

B) That makes no sense. How would 14,000 illegals get from Sweden to the USA? And why would they want to? They're already in Sweden. You say the weirdest shit sometimes...

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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kallend

***From up in my neck of the woods.

Of course, the San Bernardino shooter was a born-in-the-USA US citizen, and his wife was Pakistani. Clearly a reason to refuse Syrian refugees. I'm sure Jesus would have turned them away too.

Takes a fairly broad brush to reach from Pakistan to Syria. About as far as from Venezuela to Clayton, GA.

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gowlerk

Canadian passport holders pretty much come and go as they please from your country.

Even of you intended to be humourous, Ken, I can give you plenty of first-hand information and evidence that refutes that statement.

But hell, let's just give them another piece of paranoid fantasy to hold over us in the future.

Forgotten this bullshit allegation already? Fourteen years later and many are still repeating this nonsense.

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Unfortunately, many Americans are also still suffering from the mistaken impression the 9/11 terrorists arrived in the United States via Canada. It’s one of those myths that just won’t die, no matter how many times it is debunked and discredited.

Former House of Representatives Speaker Newt Gingrich, one-time Republican presidential nominee John McCain and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton are among the high-profile Americans who embraced the lie the terrorists came from Canada and that their northern neighbour was lax about security.

Anyone who has crossed into the U.S. by car, airplane or canoe knows American security protocols are already very stringent. New technology, such as retina and fingerprint scans, is likely to tighten it further.

source: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/editorials/The-US-should-take-cover-the-Canadians-are-coming-323523771.html

John

ETA: link

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kallend

***From up in my neck of the woods.

Of course, the San Bernardino shooter was a born-in-the-USA US citizen, and his wife was Pakistani. Clearly a reason to refuse Syrian refugees. I'm sure Jesus would have turned them away too.

You're right, the sign should read Islamic refugees. We have plenty here already.

Jesus did not heal or minister to everyone who presented themselves to him. Don't make the mistake of equating Him with the fairy godmother.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[wmw999 2,584]

Who did Jesus fail to heal that came to him? I'm curious. There were a couple that Paul did (had to google that), but Paul isnt Jesus, and Paul could be something of a jerk. Not trying to trap, just curious.

He didn't heal people who didn't come to Him, but that's different.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)