Hey Democrats. Do you think your primary vote matters?

[rushmc 23]

It looks suspect to me
What am I missing?
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http://observer.com/2015/11/hillarys-outpacing-of-endorsements-signals-the-game-may-be-rigged-in-her-favor/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 897]

Wasn't he a philosopher?

[grue 1]

Oligarchy for all, and if you support R or D you're only supporting one wing of the same bird. People who think they're substantially different are either naive or one-issue voters.

cavete terrae.

[rushmc 23]

grue

Oligarchy for all, and if you support R or D you're only supporting one wing of the same bird. People who think they're substantially different are either naive or one-issue voters.

I do not necessary disagree with you in total.

I feel the party heads want the same things in the end

The vote just may determine which party has the most control over the government and the then associated dollars that come with that power

this is why I think someone other than a Bush or a Clinton in the White House may at least buy us some time

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

normiss

Wasn't he a philosopher?

the great conversationalist strikes again!!!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[grue 1]

rushmc

***Oligarchy for all, and if you support R or D you're only supporting one wing of the same bird. People who think they're substantially different are either naive or one-issue voters.

I do not necessary disagree with you in total.

I feel the party heads want the same things in the end

The vote just may determine which party has the most control over the government and the then associated dollars that come with that power

this is why I think someone other than a Bush or a Clinton in the White House may at least buy us some time

For me, the only important thing is getting rid of bad congressweasels. They're a far more damaging incarnation of fuckery.

cavete terrae.

[headoverheels 334]

By the time my state has the primary, the result is usually already set. My vote in the general election will never matter.

[cvfd1399 0]

This 1000X this.

[normiss 897]

Electoral College and all that....

[councilman24 37]

PRIMARY, no electoral college but lots of super delegates, etc.

I've been on 6 non-partisan ballots. Whether your vote counts or not for a primary is up for grabs. But you should always think you vote counts. If nothing else it counts to you and you having taken advantage of our system. I have little use for most of the folks in Washington, in my state capital Lansing, and even our County commission, all partisan. But I've also been part of an election won by 7 votes and another in my community that was a tie and settled by a coin flip.

Voting is better than not voting.

I'm old for my age.
Terry Urban
D-8631
FAA DPRE

[yoink 321]

headoverheels

By the time my state has the primary, the result is usually already set. My vote in the general election will never matter.

Exactly.

[normiss 897]

Agreed. We gotta try.

[BartsDaddy 7]

normiss

Agreed. We gotta try.

I agree with that statement. But when you live in a state that consistently claims a winner 1 minute after the polls close, and there are smaller states that the polls closed 3 hours earlier still counting.
It really is trying to believe that trying will help.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[tkhayes 348]

Does not really matter - whether Hillary or Bernie get the nomination, the Democrats are all (mostly) aligned behind that person, and that person will most likely get the Presidency.

The Republicans have the usual bunch of loonies up there and will in-fight to the end, then probably put the most electable person up there, regardless of whether or not they are loonie (probably Bush) and they will lose. They are disorganized and look like children. The Democrats and strongly united.

But whether one or the other wins the presidency make no difference because CONGRESS is supposed to do most of the work, but they do not and Americans are generally so fucking stoopid they have no idea how it works or how it is supposed to work.

Congress will continue to play games, the Presidency will continue to be the place where all the blame goes for everything. THe system will continue to be dysfunctional, Americans will do nothing to change it.

[kallend 2,150]

tkhayes

Does not really matter - whether Hillary or Bernie get the nomination, the Democrats are all (mostly) aligned behind that person, and that person will most likely get the Presidency.

The Republicans have the usual bunch of loonies up there and will in-fight to the end, then probably put the most electable person up there, regardless of whether or not they are loonie (probably Bush) and they will lose. They are disorganized and look like children. The Democrats and strongly united.

But whether one or the other wins the presidency make no difference because CONGRESS is supposed to do most of the work, but they do not and Americans are generally so fucking stoopid they have no idea how it works or how it is supposed to work.

Congress will continue to play games, the Presidency will continue to be the place where all the blame goes for everything. THe system will continue to be dysfunctional, Americans will do nothing to change it.

Latest Rasmussen polls:

HOW WOULD YOU RATE THE WAY CONGRESS IS DOING ITS JOB?
Excellent 2%
Good 7%
Fair 25%
Poor 63%

The Presidential Tracking Poll shows that:
Approve of President Obama's job performance. 46%
Disapprove. 53%

SO while neither Congress nor the President have majority approval, the President gets FAR better approval than the GOP led Congress.

Particularly sad is that 59% of all voters think most members of Congress are willing to sell their vote for either cash or a campaign contribution, and 56% think it’s likely their own representative has already done so.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

tkhayes

Does not really matter - whether Hillary or Bernie get the nomination, the Democrats are all (mostly) aligned behind that person, and that person will most likely get the Presidency.

The Republicans have the usual bunch of loonies up there and will in-fight to the end, then probably put the most electable person up there, regardless of whether or not they are loonie (probably Bush) and they will lose. They are disorganized and look like children. The Democrats and strongly united.

But whether one or the other wins the presidency make no difference because CONGRESS is supposed to do most of the work, but they do not and Americans are generally so fucking stoopid they have no idea how it works or how it is supposed to work.

Congress will continue to play games, the Presidency will continue to be the place where all the blame goes for everything. THe system will continue to be dysfunctional, Americans will do nothing to change it.

Comments as per usual and as predicted

Carrry on

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,150]

rushmc

***Does not really matter - whether Hillary or Bernie get the nomination, the Democrats are all (mostly) aligned behind that person, and that person will most likely get the Presidency.

The Republicans have the usual bunch of loonies up there and will in-fight to the end, then probably put the most electable person up there, regardless of whether or not they are loonie (probably Bush) and they will lose. They are disorganized and look like children. The Democrats and strongly united.

But whether one or the other wins the presidency make no difference because CONGRESS is supposed to do most of the work, but they do not and Americans are generally so fucking stoopid they have no idea how it works or how it is supposed to work.

Congress will continue to play games, the Presidency will continue to be the place where all the blame goes for everything. THe system will continue to be dysfunctional, Americans will do nothing to change it.

Comments as per usual and as predicted

Please provide a link to the prediction of tk's comments.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

******Does not really matter - whether Hillary or Bernie get the nomination, the Democrats are all (mostly) aligned behind that person, and that person will most likely get the Presidency.

The Republicans have the usual bunch of loonies up there and will in-fight to the end, then probably put the most electable person up there, regardless of whether or not they are loonie (probably Bush) and they will lose. They are disorganized and look like children. The Democrats and strongly united.

But whether one or the other wins the presidency make no difference because CONGRESS is supposed to do most of the work, but they do not and Americans are generally so fucking stoopid they have no idea how it works or how it is supposed to work.

Congress will continue to play games, the Presidency will continue to be the place where all the blame goes for everything. THe system will continue to be dysfunctional, Americans will do nothing to change it.

Comments as per usual and as predicted

Please provide a link to the prediction of tk's comments.

Nice try

Not who specific

And i stated months ago of how lefties will call the republican cadidates clowns and worse

And it will continue

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,150]

rushmc

*********Does not really matter - whether Hillary or Bernie get the nomination, the Democrats are all (mostly) aligned behind that person, and that person will most likely get the Presidency.

The Republicans have the usual bunch of loonies up there and will in-fight to the end, then probably put the most electable person up there, regardless of whether or not they are loonie (probably Bush) and they will lose. They are disorganized and look like children. The Democrats and strongly united.

But whether one or the other wins the presidency make no difference because CONGRESS is supposed to do most of the work, but they do not and Americans are generally so fucking stoopid they have no idea how it works or how it is supposed to work.

Congress will continue to play games, the Presidency will continue to be the place where all the blame goes for everything. THe system will continue to be dysfunctional, Americans will do nothing to change it.

Comments as per usual and as predicted

Please provide a link to the prediction of tk's comments.

Nice try

Not who specific

And i stated months ago of how lefties will call the republican cadidates clowns and worse

And it will continue

OK, so tk's comments were NOT, in fact, predicted at all.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[cvfd1399 0]

When did you have to start posting predictions ahead of time to be able to use the use the phrase? I have a lot of predictions about what you post next.

[jakee 1,596]

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But whether one or the other wins the presidency make no difference because CONGRESS is supposed to do most of the work, but they do not and Americans are generally so fucking stoopid they have no idea how it works or how it is supposed to work.

It's not 'Americans' fault, it's not Congress' fault, it's the way the government was created.

The legislative branch is, inevitably and by design, divided. The Executive branch is, by design, unified. Which one will be best able to effectively push an agenda? Answers on a postcard...

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[kallend 2,150]

cvfd1399

When did you have to start posting predictions ahead of time to be able to use the use the phrase? I have a lot of predictions about what you post next.

It's remarkably easy to claim to have predicted events that have already happened. Charlatans have been doing that for millennia.

I'm asking Marc for some evidence that he predicted tk's comments BEFORE tk made them.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[jakee 1,596]

cvfd1399

When did you have to start posting predictions ahead of time to be able to use the use the phrase? I have a lot of predictions about what you post next.

I knew you'd say that. You're so predictable.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[cvfd1399 0]

So do you get paid to raise post counts around here with off the wall requests or is it just a hobby?

[Stumpy 284]

cvfd1399

So do you get paid to raise post counts around here with off the wall requests or is it just a hobby?

You are so predictable.

Never try to eat more than you can lift