Dr. Carson the street thug?

[Stumpy 284]

kallend

More weasel words from our anonymous poster.

I forget but isn't he someone's sockpuppet?

Never try to eat more than you can lift

[kallend 2,150]

cvfd1399

You know what came across my mind this morning. You are all too familiar with Mr. Carson's situation. You yourself have been a person to say something that was misleading here for years. Sort of the truth but written in misrepresentation to mean more than it really is to make yourself seem more credible about the situation.

When it was found out about half a dozen people here agreed with what you were doing was leading us to believe it was way more of a deal than it really was. I think many will agree.

Oh, nice way to make a non-specific PA. Mr. Anonymous.

I recall a bunch of people claiming that I don't live where I do live. They quickly went quiet when I suggested they go to the FAA web site and look it up.

Maybe you can provide a link to where I claimed, say, to have been offered a scholarship to a college that doesn't offer scholarships. Or maybe, say, where I claimed to have had nothing to do with a fraudulent company when video exists showing that I shilled for the company. Or, say, that I rescued a bunch of people from a riot, but no-one else can remember it. Or that I claimed a gun was stuck in my ribs during a hold-up, but the police have no record of such a hold-up.

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[kallend 2,150]

I see that Dr. Ben is now admitting that he made up the Yale "most honest student" course name and number for his book, but is faulting the WSJ for not finding the correct course with that name.

He even posted a course syllabus as proof. However, the syllabus he posted to "prove" his story has a different number and was from 2002. That is way after he attended Yale**, and even after he wrote his book He must think people are stupid (maybe he's right when it comes to his supporters).

** Carson graduated from Yale in 1973.

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Oh, nice way to make a non-specific PA. Mr. Anonymous.

The facts are here I as well as others have seen them and they have gave their determination that you were being misleading. That is not me making the judgement that I me going along with about 4 other posters.

As for you continuing to all me anonymous, If my profile doesn't show the info for you I have no clue what to tell you. I also have already gave you the name of my well known dropzone, and directions to fly down here and verify for yourself if it is such an issue for you.

[kallend 2,150]

cvfd1399

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Oh, nice way to make a non-specific PA. Mr. Anonymous.

The facts are here I as well as others have seen them and they have gave their determination that you were being misleading. That is not me making the judgement that I me going along with about 4 other posters.

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I wrote that I live on the south side of Chicago. The fact that "about 4 other posters" didn't believe me is totally irrelevant. As I wrote at the time, a simple check of the FAA's online database proves me correct and them wrong.

Unlike Dr. Carson, what I wrote is both true AND verifiable.

Carson increasingly appears to be a pathological liar.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[cvfd1399 0]

Im not gonna argue I will go with whatever the other posters came up with. So hows about clearing up that anonymous name calling you keep doing now.

[kallend 2,150]

cvfd1399

Im not gonna argue I will go with whatever the other posters came up with. So hows about clearing up that anonymous name calling you keep doing now.

Michael ????? from Baton Rouge, registered 2003. Yep, that clearly identifies you.

Just three weeks ago we didn't even know that much although you had more than 12 years to fill in your profile.

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Not that any of the above changes the fact that Dr. Carson appears to be a pathological embellisher of the truth.

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kallend

***Im not gonna argue I will go with whatever the other posters came up with. So hows about clearing up that anonymous name calling you keep doing now.

Michael ????? from Baton Rouge, registered 2003. Yep, that clearly identifies you.

Just three weeks ago we didn't even know that much although you had more than 12 years to fill in your profile.

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Not that any of the above changes the fact that Dr. Carson appears to be a pathological embellisher of the truth.

How do we know you are who you are and not someone who used Google to get all your profile info from the faa? I mean Holy shit man get over yourself nothing is ever good enough. I am done with this, I have caught on to your game, you argue and repeat the same thing in order to get people in trouble with the mods.

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kallend

***Im not gonna argue I will go with whatever the other posters came up with. So hows about clearing up that anonymous name calling you keep doing now.

Michael ????? from Baton Rouge, registered 2003. Yep, that clearly identifies you.

Just three weeks ago we didn't even know that much although you had more than 12 years to fill in your profile.

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Not that any of the above changes the fact that Dr. Carson appears to be a pathological embellisher of the truth.

So much hatred for a black man.

How do you sleep at night with all the visions of black doctors coming to get you?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,150]

So how is old Anvilbrother the fireman from Baton Rouge these days? He seemed to stop posting right around the time you started up again.

He also had a hangup about where I live and the FAA database.

"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action"; Auric Goldfinger.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[cvfd1399 0]

He is doing great, we work together so I keep him well informed about the antics that go on here. Chad is about to bring his gear to our rigger to sell it and get into hunting so who knows.

[ryoder 1,590]

turtlespeed

So much hatred for a black man.

How do you sleep at night with all the visions of black doctors coming to get you?

Studying and working for decades to build sterling medical career, only to throw it all away by pushing snake oil, is not just a "black doctor" thing; Look at Dr Mehmet Oz.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rushmc 23]

ryoder

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So much hatred for a black man.

How do you sleep at night with all the visions of black doctors coming to get you?

Studying and working for decades to build sterling medical career, only to throw it all away by pushing snake oil, is not just a "black doctor" thing; Look at Dr Mehmet Oz.

MEH

It is the same claim (of some sort) that will be made against any and all of the republicans running

But please don't let that stop you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rehmwa 2]

I gotta say guys, this is entertaining. I haven't had this much fun since watching snotty rich 2nd grader kids argue over who gets to kick the ball next.



my favorite (so far, but it's early) is purposely confusing "a General of the army" (read as a general in the army), with General of the Army (read as 5 Star) and using that to call someone a poopy head liar. It's a big win, and ironic in that it's pretty much the type and level of argument accused against the media - as being presented by said poopy head anyway.

only exceeded by said poopy head continuing to try which is clearly an indication of lack of experience in how these things play out in these forums - or serious masochism



Edit:

Normal discourse involves making a tiny attempt to understand the other persons' viewpoints and discussing it from there, as opposed to covering one's eye's and ears and yelling LALALALALALALA:

A - "I believe that this is a media witchhunt. It's not unusual for people in power to make offers to the academy to talented students. The student would simply refer to it as a full ride education offer - not formal, so there's no paper trail. But informal, even the academy acknowledges it could have played out that way".

B - "I understand your position and see how it could play out as you say. But I don't think that's the case. My opinion is he tried to 'pad his resume' and got caught and is now backpedaling."

A -"I get that but I don't get that vibe from the interviews I've seen - we'll have to agree to disagree."



but that's a lot less fun that 4 pages of the idiotic semantics warrior childish piss in the thread

I also fully expect someone to blithely respond to this post and ask "what resume? this wasn't even about a resume? how can you compare interviews with a resume? do you even know what a resume is?"

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[turtlespeed 226]

rehmwa

I gotta say guys, this is entertaining. I haven't had this much fun since watching snotty rich 2nd grader kids argue over who gets to kick the ball next.



my favorite (so far, but it's early) is purposely confusing "a General of the army" (read as a general in the army), with General of the Army (read as 5 Star) and using that to call someone a poopy head liar. It's a big win, and ironic in that it's pretty much the type and level of argument accused against the media - as being presented by said poopy head anyway.

only exceeded by said poopy head continuing to try which is clearly an indication of lack of experience in how these things play out in these forums - or serious masochism



Edit:

Normal discourse involves making a tiny attempt to understand the other persons' viewpoints and discussing it from there, as opposed to covering one's eye's and ears and yelling LALALALALALALA:

A - "I believe that this is a media witchhunt. It's not unusual for people in power to make offers to the academy to talented students. The student would simply refer to it as a full ride education offer - not formal, so there's no paper trail. But informal, even the academy acknowledges it could have played out that way".

B - "I understand your position and see how it could play out as you say. But I don't think that's the case. My opinion is he tried to 'pad his resume' and got caught and is now backpedaling."

A -"I get that but I don't get that vibe from the interviews I've seen - we'll have to agree to disagree."



but that's a lot less fun that 4 pages of the idiotic semantics warrior childish piss in the thread

I also fully expect someone to blithely respond to this post and ask "what resume? this wasn't even about a resume? how can you compare interviews with a resume? do you even know what a resume is?"

Wait, what?

Who is trying to resume what?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[rehmwa 2]

turtlespeed

Wait, what?

that's not even a sentence - why do you hate education?
children are people too - once they can vote

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[normiss 897]

Dead people vote too.

[rehmwa 2]

normiss

Dead people vote too.

If they know what's good for them, sure.

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[turtlespeed 226]

normiss

Dead people vote too.

That is because they were once children.

Why does the left continually promote extinguishing potential members of its party?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[turtlespeed 226]

rehmwa

***Dead people vote too.

If they know what's good for them, sure.

Well, now that there is Obama care, all those voting dead will know what's good for them

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[Bolas 5]

rehmwa

snotty rich 2nd grader kids argue
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poopy head liar
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idiotic semantics warrior childish piss

Personal Attacks!!!

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting
If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

[rushmc 23]

And the media witch is being exposed more every day

http://www.youngcons.com/obama-made-at-least-9-false-claims-about-his-bio-that-the-media-ignored/

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1. “Obama’s Staff Corrects WWII Story” (New York Times)


In response to a question at a Memorial Day appearance in New Mexico, Mr. Obama said an uncle helped liberate the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz during World War II. The problem? That story didn’t track with history, considering Auschwitz was liberated by Soviet forces.






2. Selma Birth Connection (Independent Journal)


“[W]hen the president spoke before an audience in Selma back in 2007, Obama credited the civil rights march as the inspiration for his conception. The only problem with that, as conservative punditMichelle Malkin points out, is that the president was already three years old when the march occurred in 1965.”

3. “Obama Overstates Kennedys’ Role in Helping His Father” (Washington Post)


Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his “very existence” to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother.

The Camelot connection has become part of the mythology surrounding Obama’s bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. […]

It is a touching story — but the key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified.

4. “Tale of British brutality toward Barack Obama’s grandfather probably untrue, book claims” (The Telegraph)


It is a harrowing tale of torture in a colonial prison in Kenya that is said to explain the President’s coolness towards Britain and even his removal of Winston Churchill’s bust from the Oval Office.

David Maraniss, the author of Mr Obama’s most comprehensive biography so far, said five associates of Hussein Onyango Obama doubt he was even jailed. One told him: “People make up stories”. […]

… Maraniss claims that while “incidents of that sort certainly happened”, it “seems unlikely” that Mr Obama’s grandfather was one such victim. “Five people who had close connections to Hussein Onyango said they doubted the story or were certain it did not happen,” he wrote in Barack Obama – The Making of the Man.

5. The heroic story of Obama’s step-grandfather dying while fighting the Dutch is untrue (New York Times)


Mr. Maraniss attributes some of the differences to the kind of family lore that is often exaggerated. He notes that the story about the death of Mr. Obama’s step-grandfather — allegedly killed while fighting Dutch troops in Indonesia — was “a concocted myth in almost all respects.” Mr. Maraniss writes that he died trying to hang drapes.

6. “Obama Lied About Mother’s Health Insurance Problem” (Commentary)


During the 2008 campaign and throughout the subsequent debate over his health care legislation, President Obama used his mother’s experience as a cancer patient fighting to get coverage to pay for treatment for what her insurer said was a pre-existing condition as an emotional argument to sway skeptics. However, a new book by New York Times reporter Janny Scott has revealed this story appears to be a fabrication.

The Times reports today (in a story buried on page 14 rather than on the front page) that during the course of researching her book, A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mother, Scott uncovered correspondence showing “the 1995 dispute concerned a Cigna disability insurance policy and that her actual health insurer had apparently reimbursed most of her medical expenses without argument.” In response to inquiries, “a White House spokesman chose not to dispute either Ms. Scott’s account or Mr. Obama’s memory, while arguing that Mr. Obama’s broader point remained salient.”

7. Obama makes white Occidental College classmate “Regina” into African-American aka “composite girlfriend” (Washington Times)


“During an interview in the Oval Office, Obama acknowledged that, while Genevieve was his New York girlfriend, the description in his memoir was a ‘compression’ of girlfriends, including one who followed Genevieve [Cook] when he lived in Chicago,” Mr. Maraniss wrote in the new biography.

“In ‘Dreams from My Father,’ Obama chose to emphasize a racial chasm that unavoidably separated him from the woman he described as his New York girlfriend,” wrote the author, who interviewed the woman. “None of this happened with Genevieve. She remembered going to the theater only once with Barack, and it was not to see a work by a black playwright.”

Mr. Maraniss said the president acknowledged this scene did not happen with Ms. Cook.

8. President Obama’s “improbable love” narrative (Jack Cashill)


In all the talk about David Maraniss’ new book, “Barack Obama: The Story,” the chattering classes seem to have overlooked the most significant of Maraniss’ revelations, namely that the story on which Obama based his 2008 candidacy is “received myth, not the truth.”

“My parents shared not only an improbable love,” said Obama famously in his 2004 Democratic Convention keynote, “they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation.” This concept of multicultural romance shaped his persona and his campaigns. […]

As Maraniss concedes, these two young people shared very close to nothing. “In the college life of Barack Obama in 1961 and 1962,” writes Maraniss, “as recounted by his friends and acquaintances in Honolulu, there was no Ann; there was no baby.”

Although Maraniss talked to many of Obama Sr.’s friends, none of the credible ones ever so much as saw him with Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham.

9. Obama and his mother not “abandoned” by father in 1963 (Buzzfeed)


It’s in that context that Maraniss corrects a central element of Obama’s own biography, debunking a story that Obama’s mother may well have invented: That she and her son were abandoned in Hawaii in 1963.

“It was his mother who left Hawaii first, a year earlier than his father,” Maraniss writes, confirming a story that had first surfaced in the conservative blogosphere. He suggests that “spousal abuse” prompted her flight back to Seattle.

Obama’s own fairy-tales, meanwhile, run toward Amercan [sic] racial cliché.

At least 38 false accounts of President Obama’s life story were documented in just the Maraniss biography, as counted by Buzzfeed Editor-in-Chief Ben Smith.

Additional falsehoods have been detected in Obama’s biographies, many of them apparently designed to further a narrative of overcoming racial adversity and an underprivileged life.

that said, I also agree with this

More than the left wing radicals will support!!

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If Ben Carson enhanced his life story, that is wrong, and he should be held accountable for it so the argument here is not two wrongs make a right.

However, the media has a responsibility to search for the truth in all situations regardless of political affiliation and they failed miserably during the two times that Barack Obama ran for president.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DanG 1]

Again, you are using media reports on falsehoods in Obama's book to prove that the media never reported on falsehoods in Obama's book.

Your worldview is so ingrained that you can't even see the contradiction. Amazing.

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

Again, you are using media reports on falsehoods in Obama's book to prove that the media never reported on falsehoods in Obama's book.

Your worldview is so ingrained that you can't even see the contradiction. Amazing.

Oh

So you saw the same scrutiny about the 30 lies in Obamas book

Glad to hear that

Even though even YOU know that did not happen

And the irony of the world view snipe is not even measurable

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 897]

It's interesting how much of perspective scrutiny is becoming for Dr. Carson

It's clear that the current President has had plenty of scrutiny sent his way as well.

More like Dr. Ben Lyin'.