kallend 2,146 #1 November 4, 2015 www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/31/upshot/who-still-doesnt-have-health-insurance-obamacare.html?_r=0 Mostly in "red states".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 November 4, 2015 kallendwww.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/31/upshot/who-still-doesnt-have-health-insurance-obamacare.html?_r=0 Mostly in "red states". And does this surprise anyone??? It is the home of "You can keep your cheap ass substandard medical insurance that will not cover you if anything happens anyway" that Billy Bob sold them out of his garage "business location" Ya just cain't fix S T O O P I D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 November 4, 2015 kallendwww.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/31/upshot/who-still-doesnt-have-health-insurance-obamacare.html?_r=0 Mostly in "red states". LOL I thought Obama care was meant to help the poor!!!! With the next round of cost increases of OBAMA CARE not even the middle class with be able to afford it But then, this is as planned Destroy the private sector with OC and then push single payer You are so transparent John"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 November 4, 2015 Amazon Ya just cain't fix S T O O P I D Demonstrated on this site daily"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #5 November 4, 2015 It matches up pretty well with this map of states that did not enact medicaid expansion. http://familiesusa.org/product/50-state-look-medicaid-expansion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #6 November 4, 2015 cvfd1399It matches up pretty well with this map of states that did not enact medicaid expansion. http://familiesusa.org/product/50-state-look-medicaid-expansion Yes it does. States with GOP controlled governments which disadvantaged their own poor simply in order to spite Obama.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #7 November 4, 2015 I wonder how much it was that, AND/or the imposed cost. I know here it would have added 1.7 billion eventually to Louisiana tax payers. Can we scrap this and go single payer already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #8 November 4, 2015 cvfd1399 Can we scrap this and go single payer already. We're voting on it next year here in Colorado. I haven't read too much about it yet, but my "ObamaCare" premiums keep going up for a terrible plan. I can barely afford my premium, let alone going to a doctor. I think it's hilariously sad that having to pay my premium keeps me from being able to see a doctor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 November 4, 2015 JohnnyMarko *** Can we scrap this and go single payer already. We're voting on it next year here in Colorado. I haven't read too much about it yet, but my "ObamaCare" premiums keep going up for a terrible plan. I can barely afford my premium, let alone going to a doctor. I think it's hilariously sad that having to pay my premium keeps me from being able to see a doctor. Why is something that was explained, re explained, screamed about, fought against, disputed, and proven as a lie, sad? It's what the country wanted, right? (Cheesy Bat Man Line) It's just the health care hero this country needs right now.I fought against it as much as I could reasonably do. We that were against it told what would happen. Now people are starting to believe it just after there was any point of return.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 November 4, 2015 rushmc ***www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/31/upshot/who-still-doesnt-have-health-insurance-obamacare.html?_r=0 Mostly in "red states". LOL I thought Obama care was meant to help the poor!!!! With the next round of cost increases of OBAMA CARE not even the middle class with be able to afford it But then, this is as planned Destroy the private sector with OC and then push single payer You are so transparent John Ya cain't hep doze what don't be wantin hep.. cause it's THE DAYUM SOCIALIST GUBMINT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 November 4, 2015 cvfd1399 I wonder how much it was that, AND/or the imposed cost. I know here it would have added 1.7 billion eventually to Louisiana tax payers. Can we scrap this and go single payer already. And how much do you think it costs your local gubmints when the poor... with no preventative health care show up in ER's across the region when they are far sicker with greater and more expensive life saving procedures needed???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 November 4, 2015 turtlespeed ****** Can we scrap this and go single payer already. We're voting on it next year here in Colorado. I haven't read too much about it yet, but my "ObamaCare" premiums keep going up for a terrible plan. I can barely afford my premium, let alone going to a doctor. I think it's hilariously sad that having to pay my premium keeps me from being able to see a doctor. Why is something that was explained, re explained, screamed about, fought against, disputed, and proven as a lie, sad? It's what the country wanted, right? (Cheesy Bat Man Line) It's just the health care hero this country needs right now.I fought against it as much as I could reasonably do. We that were against it told what would happen. Now people are starting to believe it just after there was any point of return. You want to save money there skippy? Shoot all the middlemen in the insurance companies getting rich off of other peoples suffering. Implement Medicare across the board.... with a basic level of preventative health care for all Citizens as a basic right. If you can afford to buy better supplemental care with your local hospital.... then do so... and let them form networks from there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #13 November 4, 2015 >I thought Obama care was meant to help the poor! Yep. And it has - outside of red states where local politicians are trying to destroy it. ========= And many of the people who lack insurance in states with a lot of uninsured people are effectively unable to benefit from Obamacare programs because of their low incomes and local politicians’ decisions to forgo Medicaid expansion.. . Medicaid expansion continues to be a huge predictor of how many people remain uninsured in a given state. It is undeniable, however, that the law has had a substantial effect. Compare this year’s map, where dark purple regions represent areas where the uninsured rate remains above 16 percent, with the map from 2013, when nearly the whole country looked purple. Medicaid expansion is being considered in a few more states. Montana has decided to move forward next year. (Alaska started its expansion in September.) ========== So want to help the poor? Support medicaid expansion. Want to fuck them over? Continue to oppose it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #14 November 4, 2015 Amazon ***I wonder how much it was that, AND/or the imposed cost. I know here it would have added 1.7 billion eventually to Louisiana tax payers. Can we scrap this and go single payer already. And how much do you think it costs your local gubmints when the poor... with no preventative health care show up in ER's across the region when they are far sicker with greater and more expensive life saving procedures needed????But, but, but, that's DIFFERENT.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 November 4, 2015 It was never designed to work"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #16 November 4, 2015 > It was never designed to work Fortunately for most Americans - and unfortunately for you - it is indeed working. US uninsureds are at their lowest level ever recorded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 November 4, 2015 billvon> It was never designed to work Fortunately for most Americans - and unfortunately for you - it is indeed working. US uninsureds are at their lowest level ever recorded. Those that wrote it say different. I will go with them"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #18 November 4, 2015 >Those that wrote it say different. I will go with them Romney said that his plan wasn't designed to work? I guess he's changed his tune. But in any case, I will go with reality over what a politician says. You can, of course, blindly swallow what politicians say if you choose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #19 November 4, 2015 rushmc It was never designed to work So, why is it working in European countries? Your above remark just shows you don't know shit about how it's supposed to work. Health insurance is a basic institution in modern developed countries. But, not in the US. Unbelievable .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #20 November 4, 2015 People are getting insured because they are held at gunpoint and have to pay huge fines some want to but cant because they cant afford the plans the government is forcing on them. My wife has spent the last 6 months trying to do whatever she can with a social workers help to find an affordable plan for her parents which are both in her 70's both diabetics, and one is a double amputee with no kidney output and on dialysis 3 times a week. The plans are out of their price range and she is a retired(fired) insurance salesman and he retired from a chemical company as an engineer. She was on a private plan through her company until the recently fired her for poor job performance(I think she is getting dementia or Alzheimers myself) Now shes trying to get obamacare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #21 November 4, 2015 >Now shes trying to get obamacare. Imagine how hard it would be to get insurance if they could exclude her parents for pre-existing conditions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #22 November 4, 2015 cvfd1399People are getting insured because they are held at gunpoint and have to pay huge fines some want to but cant because they cant afford the plans the government is forcing on them. My wife has spent the last 6 months trying to do whatever she can with a social workers help to find an affordable plan for her parents which are both in her 70's both diabetics, and one is a double amputee with no kidney output and on dialysis 3 times a week. The plans are out of their price range and she is a retired(fired) insurance salesman and he retired from a chemical company as an engineer. She was on a private plan through her company until the recently fired her for poor job performance(I think she is getting dementia or Alzheimers myself) Now shes trying to get obamacare. And how would they have fared before 2010?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #23 November 4, 2015 ***>Those that wrote it say different. I will go with them Romney said that his plan wasn't designed to work? I guess he's changed his tune. But in any case, I will go with reality over what a politician says. You can, of course, blindly swallow what politicians say if you choose.[/quote Ah. Romney didnt write it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #24 November 4, 2015 christelsabine ***It was never designed to work So, why is it working in European countries? Your above remark just shows you don't know shit about how it's supposed to work. Health insurance is a basic institution in modern developed countries. But, not in the US. Unbelievable .... So you think they are the same?? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #25 November 4, 2015 I'm a few years from Medicare, but I would have assumed that much of your parent's medical expense would have been covered by that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites