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Coreeece

******Uncomfortable . . . Imagine being on the moon without a space suit.



I think 'uncomfortable' is a bit of a understatement.

So, you're been shown to be wrong about the temperature in Houston, but you're going to stick to your guns that 165F wet bulb temperature is no big deal?



I know that 165F probably refers to the heat index of the 95F wet bulb temp that Bill was talking about earlier, but be careful - I was already rebuked in another thread for the saying the same thing.

But to answer your question - ya, heat waves are a big deal and lots of people can die. I think 700+ died in Chicago during a heat wave 20 years ago. 600+ died in Pakistan earlier this year, and those temps didn't even break the record high for that area from 1979 when CO2 emissions were lower.

The record heat index of 178F back in 2003 didn't seem to be as deadly - nor did the 165F back in July - here's some pictures:
http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/08/01/rtx1mfvg.jpg

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/08/01/heat.jpg


Assuming you are not simply joking, please look up the terms 'temperature,' 'wet bulb temperature' and 'heat index.'

165F is 'medium' for cooked meat, 165F water is scalding, where immersion will cause burns immediately. This is the kind of temperature that can be sustained in a hot sauna for maybe 15 minutes.

You are not likely to find much of anywhere that is that hot on the surface of this planet.

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winsor

*********Uncomfortable . . . Imagine being on the moon without a space suit.



I think 'uncomfortable' is a bit of a understatement.

So, you're been shown to be wrong about the temperature in Houston, but you're going to stick to your guns that 165F wet bulb temperature is no big deal?



I know that 165F probably refers to the heat index of the 95F wet bulb temp that Bill was talking about earlier, but be careful - I was already rebuked in another thread for the saying the same thing.

But to answer your question - ya, heat waves are a big deal and lots of people can die. I think 700+ died in Chicago during a heat wave 20 years ago. 600+ died in Pakistan earlier this year, and those temps didn't even break the record high for that area from 1979 when CO2 emissions were lower.

The record heat index of 178F back in 2003 didn't seem to be as deadly - nor did the 165F back in July - here's some pictures:
http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/08/01/rtx1mfvg.jpg

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/08/01/heat.jpg


Assuming you are not simply joking, please look up the terms 'temperature,' 'wet bulb temperature' and 'heat index.'

165F is 'medium' for cooked meat, 165F water is scalding, where immersion will cause burns immediately.

Well, you're not really being cooked - it just feels like you are.

Please see the 1st photo I linked to where the man is using his child to shield himself from the sun.
Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

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Coreeece



Assuming you are not simply joking, please look up the terms 'temperature,' 'wet bulb temperature' and 'heat index.'

165F is 'medium' for cooked meat, 165F water is scalding, where immersion will cause burns immediately.



Well, you're not really being cooked - it just feels like you are.

Please see the 1st photo I linked to where the man is using his child to shield himself from the sun.

If a meat thermometer says your body temperature is 165F, you're cooked.

The picture you cite appears to be a freeze frame action shot of someone playing with a kid in the water. Nothing about it looks like the kid is being used as a sun shield (the other people in the shot look pretty blase).

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Assuming you are not simply joking, please look up the terms 'temperature,' 'wet bulb temperature' and 'heat index.'

165F is 'medium' for cooked meat, 165F water is scalding, where immersion will cause burns immediately.



Well, you're not really being cooked - it just feels like you are.

Please see the 1st photo I linked to where the man is using his child to shield himself from the sun.

If a meat thermometer says your body temperature is 165F, you're cooked.

The picture you cite appears to be a freeze frame action shot of someone playing with a kid in the water. Nothing about it looks like the kid is being used as a sun shield (the other people in the shot look pretty blase).

Well that's a rather rosy perspective on suffering. The other people are apparently in a state of shock as they are being enveloped by the apocalyptic AGW flood waters that we have been alarmed about. The world is going to hell in a hand basket, run for the sleeves!
Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

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Coreeece



Well that's a rather rosy perspective on suffering. The other people are apparently in a state of shock as they are being enveloped by the apocalyptic AGW flood waters that we have been alarmed about. The world is going to hell in a hand basket, run for the sleeves!



The good thing is that AGW is so overwhelming a threat that everything else pales in comparison. I, for one, lay awake at night, trembling in fear.

Damn you Al Gore! Why could you not allow us just a little blissful ignorance?

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