wmw999 2,632 #26 October 26, 2015 Which other poster -- me? If so, how on earth do you get that out of my questioning? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #27 October 26, 2015 No, not you. I can't say more. The mighty watchful eye of our big brother is tracking me.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,160 #28 October 26, 2015 >And, don't forget that both Bill and Hillary were born into wealth. Whereas Trump has had to struggle all his life. He was told "no" at every turn. Why, when he was starting out, he had nothing but the clothes on his back and the occasional tiny million dollar loan - which he even had to pay back! He feels the pain of the average American who is struggling to make ends meet. ======================== Trump: My dad gave me a 'small loan' of a million dollars By Nick Gass 10/26/15 09:12 AM EDT As Donald Trump tells it, he has been told no his entire life. For example, he said Monday, his father gave him a "small loan of a million dollars" that he had to repay with interest at the start of his career. “Oh many times. I’ve been told no by him. My whole life, really has been a no," the Republican presidential candidate said during a town hall event in Atkinson, New Hampshire, on NBC's "Today." “It has not been easy for me. It has not been easy for me. I started off in Brooklyn. My father gave me a small loan of a million dollars," Trump remarked. "I came into Manhattan, and I had to pay him back, and I had to pay him back with interest. But I came into Manhattan and I started buying properties, and I did great." Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-father-loan-1-million-dollars-215154#ixzz3phC4cYBO ======================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #29 October 26, 2015 RonD1120 And, don't forget that both Bill and Hillary were born into wealth. Facts and republicans really don't mix. It's pathetic that your party and its followers willfully live in a world of bullshit. That bullshit -- not "liberals" -- is what's eating the country from inside. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 October 27, 2015 Ever notice his "erudite" style tends to make a lot of noise and attacks on who ever is his latest target. OR it could be...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #31 October 27, 2015 AmazonEver notice his "erudite" style tends to make a lot of noise and attacks on who ever is his latest target. OR it could be...... The following link is from last July but it is more than adequate to rebut your expressed animosity. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/trumps_trump.htmlLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 October 27, 2015 RonD1120***Ever notice his "erudite" style tends to make a lot of noise and attacks on who ever is his latest target. OR it could be...... The following link is from last July but it is more than adequate to rebut your expressed animosity. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/trumps_trump.html That looks more like oligarch worship.... than a rebuttal Ron... I would have thought you would put more faith into the Lord than into a loud mouthed demagogue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #33 October 27, 2015 Amazon******Ever notice his "erudite" style tends to make a lot of noise and attacks on who ever is his latest target. OR it could be...... The following link is from last July but it is more than adequate to rebut your expressed animosity. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/07/trumps_trump.html That looks more like oligarch worship.... than a rebuttal Ron... I would have thought you would put more faith into the Lord than into a loud mouthed demagogue. Believe me, I do have more faith in the Holy Trinity. I have almost no faith in our federal government, regardless of who is POTUS. I believe we have crossed the tipping point. We are rapidly descending into our evolutionary decline of expanding decadence. My church is setting forth plans to establish a stand alone social service multiplex to provide ministry to a one hundred mile radius.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 November 3, 2015 QuoteMy undergraduate degree is in business. Trump certainly did better than me. In fact he has done better than all of us put together. I applaud success. No he hasn't. He would have done better putting his inheritance in a savings account. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #35 November 4, 2015 SkyDekker Quote My undergraduate degree is in business. Trump certainly did better than me. In fact he has done better than all of us put together. I applaud success. No he hasn't. He would have done better putting his inheritance in a savings account. He did better at picking parents with money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #36 November 4, 2015 Not at today's or anything in the last 15 years savings rate. He'll maybe not even the past 20 years rate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,201 #37 November 4, 2015 cvfd1399Not at today's or anything in the last 15 years savings rate. He'll maybe not even the past 20 years rate. It's only since the Bush Recession that rates totally tanked. He could have done better in an index linked mutual fund.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #38 November 4, 2015 It doesn't matter how many times you explain it to him. He will always believe that Trump is a brilliant business man because he has a lot of money. Some people simply can't understand the concept of compounding interest. The same people are liklely not saving or investing, and will rely on the social welfare system they so love to hate. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #39 November 4, 2015 He stated he would have been better putting an inheritance in a savings account. A simple google of savings account historical rates and a calculator would have told you that you are wrong, but here take it from someone else if you must. http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/09/03/donald_trump_s_wealth_he_isn_t_only_rich_because_of_his_dad.html QuoteIf someone were to invest $40 million in a S&P 500 index in August 1974, reinvest all dividends, not cash out and have to pay capital gains, and pay nothing in investment fees, he'd wind up with about $3.4 billion come August 2015, according to Don't Quit Your Day Job's handy S&P calculator. If one factors in dividend taxes and a fee of 0.15 percent—which is triple Vanguard's actual fee for an exchange-traded S&P 500 fund—the total only falls to $2.3 billion. It's hard to nail down Trump's precise net worth, but Bloomberg currently puts it at $2.9 billion, while Forbes puts it at $4 billion. So he's worth about as much as he would've been if he had taken $40 million from his dad and thrown it into an index fund. QuoteOf all the criticisms you could lob at Trump, this is a weirdly weak one.1 Basically, Trump took a $40 million kernel and, while spending lavishly enough to surround himself with all the gold-plated bathroom fixtures his heart desired, managed to do a 26 percent better job growing his fortune than if he had quietly left it to grow in stocks without selling a single share or spending a single dividend check for 41 years. I'd say that's pretty good. How many actual money managers could brag they'd done the same with their clients' cash?2 Im not in that line of work but I sure as hell can understand that he beat what a "savings account" rate would have given him if he had just put it in there. Not as good as others but still good. And if you doubt the article the guy starts and ends with "I cant believe I am about to defend donald trumps business skills", and "I feel the need for a shower". Thanks for playing the game where everyone looses because you want to argue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #40 November 4, 2015 DanGIt doesn't matter how many times you explain it to him. He will always believe that Trump is a brilliant business man because he has a lot of money. Some people simply can't understand the concept of compounding interest. The same people are liklely not saving or investing, and will rely on the social welfare system they so love to hate. How much value do you place on personal ambition and the desire to put people to work? Trump reportedly has 22,450 employees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_OrganizationLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,201 #41 November 4, 2015 RonD1120***It doesn't matter how many times you explain it to him. He will always believe that Trump is a brilliant business man because he has a lot of money. Some people simply can't understand the concept of compounding interest. The same people are liklely not saving or investing, and will rely on the social welfare system they so love to hate. How much value do you place on personal ambition and the desire to put people to work? Trump reportedly has 22,450 employees. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization So? The Federal Government reportedly has 2,721,000 employees, yet you have a very poor opinion of its CEO.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #42 November 4, 2015 That is two different things and you know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 910 #43 November 4, 2015 Wait, what? Employees are different from ... employees??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #44 November 4, 2015 The difference in the two entire situations. The flaw in him using president Obama as a "CEO" with his employees consisting of the federal government and Trump as a CEO with private employees in businesses he started or bought and grew is so painfully obvious I am embarrassed to have to have to tell you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #45 November 4, 2015 headoverheels *** Quote My undergraduate degree is in business. Trump certainly did better than me. In fact he has done better than all of us put together. I applaud success. No he hasn't. He would have done better putting his inheritance in a savings account. He did better at picking parents with money. Good thing they were pro life.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #46 November 4, 2015 cvfd1399The difference in the two entire situations. The flaw in him using president Obama as a "CEO" with his employees consisting of the federal government and Trump as a CEO with private employees in businesses he started or bought and grew is so painfully obvious I am embarrassed to have to have to tell you. So with Trump as president how many bankruptcies will he need to take us thru to RE-ORG the country.. What assets will be sold off to his oligarch buddies to "Develop" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #47 November 4, 2015 turtlespeed ****** Quote My undergraduate degree is in business. Trump certainly did better than me. In fact he has done better than all of us put together. I applaud success. No he hasn't. He would have done better putting his inheritance in a savings account. He did better at picking parents with money. Good thing they were pro life. Yup they made sure he never had to serve anything other than himself and avoid the military.. because you know he is pro-life and shit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 910 #48 November 4, 2015 I'd be embarrassed too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #49 November 4, 2015 normiss I'd be embarrassed too. Even your comeback pours salt in the wound you self inflicted.....You just dont get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,160 #50 November 4, 2015 >Employees are different from ... employees? Of course. Trump employees are all hardworking Americans working for their families. Government employees are lazy shiftless workers who do no work and aren't worth the money they are paid. Examples abound; Neil Armstrong, Walt Whitman, Charles Lindbergh, Douglas McArthur and Sally Ride to name just a few of those lazy miscreants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites