No need for guns when you have religion....

[jbscout2002 1]

DanG

A couple of things:

Mr. Haddad (if this story is even true given the source) would be facing a maximum of seven years. If you disagree, please get a dictionary and look up the word concurrently.

Second, do you really need a CCW in NY State to transport a gun? I find that hard to believe.

Thindly, your tone and rhetoric continue to provide an excellent example of what anti-gun people refer to as a "gun nut". Take a step back, it's just the internet. You're going over the deep end.

The story is true, he ended up with misdemeanor charges, 6 months in jail, probation, and fines.

There have been a lot of issue around Ft. Drum because Soldiers are issued seven 30 round M4 magazines as part of their kit, so those who live off post are technically breaking the law when they go home at the end of the day. So now local law enforcement are basically just refusing to enforce the law if they pull you over and see your "seven felony counts of criminal possession of a weapon"

In NY, a handgun permit is required to purchase or possess within your home or business, a handgun. This permit is required to purchase or possess handgun ammunition as well. This permit is also a CCW. The is not a separate CCW permit. NYC is special though. Your NY handgun permit is invalid in the 5 burrows that make up NYC. Anywhere within the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, or Staten Island, you need a NYC permit issued by the NYPD Commissioner. You have to prove special circumstances showing why you need one. With everyone in NYC, there are less than 2000 active permits. One of them belongs to former mayor Bloomberg, who has spent $50 million out of pocket lobbying for gun control.

[normiss 892]

Well not all do.
I feel breaking laws, intentionally, felonies more so, is foolish.
It's not what responsible law abiding gun owners do.
I have used FFL holders to transfer mine in the past for this very reason.

[Coreeece 2]

normiss

I find it interesting that som want the gun laws enfroced, yet suddenly someone facing a potential charge for illegal gun running/smuggling should face such a penalty.
When transporting a cache of weapons, it would serve one well to full understand the laws across their journey.

It should be noted that the penalty "ranges widely from conditional discharge to seven years in state prison."

I suppose we'd just have to trust that the punishment would reflect the circumstances and that the system would err on the side of leniency given that democrats are bitching about America's overcrowded prison system...

Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour

[turtlespeed 226]

Coreeece

***I find it interesting that som want the gun laws enfroced, yet suddenly someone facing a potential charge for illegal gun running/smuggling should face such a penalty.
When transporting a cache of weapons, it would serve one well to full understand the laws across their journey.

It should be noted that the penalty "ranges widely from conditional discharge to seven years in state prison."

I suppose we'd just have to trust that the punishment would reflect the circumstances and that the system would err on the side of leniency given that democrats are bitching about America's overcrowded prison system...

Trust in the same justice system that employs all these standing cops that the nay Sayers here hate with such vigor, right?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[normiss 892]

Typically that does happen in court, but intent goes a long way into that decision.
Tell a judge you intentionally broke all those laws because you disagree with the laws and you have rights?
Good luck with that.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

jbscout2002

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I was in danger because I was provided very badly outdated information

Way to take responsibility for your own actions.

Provided badly outdated information, or didn't do enough research?

I don't know how many times you have had 4 months notice to pack your entire house, put the house on the market, do a good hand over of your job and responsibilities to another person, turn in a bunch of equipment, clear a military base, clear a unit, move 1000 miles away to a state you've never been to and inprocess a new post, draw new equipment, search for suitable housing, close on a house, and move into said house and unpack, and then get ready for your next deployment that is just around the corner.

I took my information guide from the provost Marshall and didn't spend a lot of time second guessing everything. In the military, you have to trust your leadership sometimes. Unfortunately, most people outside the military, and most democrats could give a fuck less about it so we are always busy watching our backs because of stuff like this

Other than the military part about 12 times in the last 15 years. Just started the process for number 13.

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I took my information guide from the provost Marshall and didn't spend a lot of time second guessing everything. In the military, you have to trust your leadership sometimes.

I wouldn't trust anybody with possible felony charges on the line, until I had verified it myself.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

Well not all do.
I feel breaking laws, intentionally, felonies more so, is foolish.
It's not what responsible law abiding gun owners do.
I have used FFL holders to transfer mine in the past for this very reason.

Yes
The laws are what they are and they should be followed

but the current state to state setup is badly flawed

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,109]

>States should be required to other states CCW permits and laws then we
>would not have this problem

The Tenth Amendment disagrees.

[winsor 236]

billvon

>States should be required to other states CCW permits and laws then we
>would not have this problem

The Tenth Amendment disagrees.

Article Four agrees.

[tkhayes 348]

I doubt your military service has anything to do with the liklihood of you committing a crime. There are veterans in prison for all kinds of crimes, just like there are welders, electricians, doctors, waiters, taxi drivers in prison for committing all kinds of crimes.

All your military service means is that you probably have better training on the use of those firearms.

http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=808 old data but stil makes the point.