masterblaster72 0 #26 October 14, 2015 I would never vote for this shitbag but for once I agree with him. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #27 October 14, 2015 ibxQuoteWas the decision to let so many across, the best action for Germany as a country? Is this going to be worse than ever before? Is it just me, or does it seem that there is more barbarism in the Arab culture? Well... your country recently killed about 300.000 foreign citizens for profit... Is still killing daily in foreign country's without any due process. You have a torture prison. Your ancestors committed genocide on the indigenous population. About 18.000 people a year die due to violent causes in the US alone. 3 generations ago Germany perfected industrial genocide. I would be careful calling other cultures barbaric. QuoteHow is that going to impact Europe, and the countries harboring the "refugees" It's going to be really tough. Nobody can foresee the exact outcome yet since it depends on many things the unclear right now. How many have we stoned to death here on our soil? How many have we raped, then because of the fact that there wasn't a witness, it was her fault? And she gets punished for being raped?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #28 October 14, 2015 jbscout2002I'm glad they are finding refuge, but rather than millions of people being displaced and leaving their entire lives behind to live in refugee camps, I'd rather about 200,000 of us go back to Iraq and put a beating on ISIS. Don't worry, you will be there fighting the Russians soon enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #29 October 14, 2015 Quote How many have we stoned to death here on our soil? How many have we raped, then because of the fact that there wasn't a witness, it was her fault? And she gets punished for being raped? Comparing who is the vilest is pretty stupid endeavor, don't you think? I think both sides have their fair share of ignorant, senseless violence. Muslims stone people - you torture innocent people to death in your state prisons. Whats the fucking difference? Arguing this is semantics - from the German perspective you both have primitive violent cultures. flinging> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbscout2002 1 #30 October 14, 2015 SkyDekker***I'm glad they are finding refuge, but rather than millions of people being displaced and leaving their entire lives behind to live in refugee camps, I'd rather about 200,000 of us go back to Iraq and put a beating on ISIS. Don't worry, you will be there fighting the Russians soon enough. I don't want to fight the Russians. Their President makes ours look like even more of a joke than he already is. Besides, Russia takes care of itself. Syria and Iraq are hopelessly lawless right now. ISIS has chopped off so many heads, they aren't even amused by it anymore. They have turned to Twitter to find new ideas for killing just like housewives turn to pintrist for home decorating ideas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #31 October 14, 2015 ibx Quote How many have we stoned to death here on our soil? How many have we raped, then because of the fact that there wasn't a witness, it was her fault? And she gets punished for being raped? Comparing who is the vilest is pretty stupid endeavor, don't you think? I think both sides have their fair share of ignorant, senseless violence. Muslims stone people - you torture innocent people to death in your state prisons. Whats the fucking difference? Arguing this is semantics - from the German perspective you both have primitive violent cultures. flinging> I'm not sure it is common practice to torture to death any innocents in a state prison. fling away, it won't hit me and only dirties your hands.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #32 October 14, 2015 QuoteI don't want to fight the Russians. Maybe not, but that is the direction it is heading in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #33 October 14, 2015 billvon>How many Muslims and fellow Arabs has Saudia Arabia taken in? About 100,000. How many has the US taken in? According to Time magazine, they set up 100,000 tents in the desert tents that remain empty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #34 October 14, 2015 >According to Time magazine, they set up 100,000 tents in the desert tents that remain empty. Cool, so they are gearing up to accept even more. How many has the US taken in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #35 October 14, 2015 billvon>According to Time magazine, they set up 100,000 tents in the desert tents that remain empty. Cool, so they are gearing up to accept even more. How many has the US taken in? Legally or illegally?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #36 October 14, 2015 >>How many has the US taken in? >Legally or illegally? Both. How many refugees from Syria has the US taken in whether they are legal or not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #37 October 14, 2015 billvon>>How many has the US taken in? >Legally or illegally? Both. How many refugees from Syria has the US taken in whether they are legal or not? Don't you think we have enough problems here? Why would you want more?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #38 October 14, 2015 turtlespeed***>>How many has the US taken in? >Legally or illegally? Both. How many refugees from Syria has the US taken in whether they are legal or not? Don't you think we have enough problems here? Why would you want more? You ever answer a question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #39 October 14, 2015 >You ever answer a question? Not when the answer doesn't support his agenda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 October 14, 2015 billvon>You ever answer a question? Not when the answer doesn't support his agenda. Ah YOU did not answer turtle yet!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #41 October 14, 2015 rushmc***>You ever answer a question? Not when the answer doesn't support his agenda. Ah YOU did not answer turtle yet! He did, he answered "both". I'm at work, and it is not convenient to look that info up. Kinda difficult to get an exact answer. you know they would pick it apart if I just generalized the number, or plagerised a web site.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #42 October 14, 2015 >YOU did not answer turtle yet! I actually did; you just didn't bother to read the reply. But since he won't answer the question I asked I will answer it for him - 1293. Obama has increased that to 10,000 a year. Republicans, of course, were angered by that, and expressed both outrage that there were refugees to take in and the feeling that the war was all Obama's fault anyway. So the evil muslims in Saudi Arabia are taking many, many more refugees than the US. Right wingers - you may now return to your refugee and Muslim bashing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #43 October 14, 2015 billvon>YOU did not answer turtle yet! I actually did; you just didn't bother to read the reply. But since he won't answer the question I asked I will answer it for him - 1293. Obama has increased that to 10,000 a year. Republicans, of course, were angered by that, and expressed both outrage that there were refugees to take in and the feeling that the war was all Obama's fault anyway. So the evil muslims in Saudi Arabia are taking many, many more refugees than the US. Right wingers - you may now return to your refugee and Muslim bashing. Im not bashing, nor that far right. I do think we have neigh of our own problems to be flying people here and supporting them because of religious beliefs and the inability for other countries populations to control themselves and act civilized.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #44 October 14, 2015 QuoteI do think we have neigh of our own problems... More problems than Saudi Arabia? Jeez, and you accuse other people of bashing America...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #45 October 14, 2015 billvon>How many Muslims and fellow Arabs has Saudia Arabia taken in? About 100,000. How many has the US taken in? It would be nice if that were in fact true -- where did you get that figure? I ask because I found no reports of this after doing a few searches. Thanks. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #46 October 14, 2015 > do think we have neigh of our own problems to be flying people here >and supporting them because of religious beliefs and the inability for other >countries populations to control themselves and act civilized. That's fine. But let's compare: Lebanon: GDP 44 billion Population 45 million Recent disasters - war in 2006, war on border today Took in ~1.3 million refugees US: GDP 17 trillion Population 319 million Recent disasters - WTC attacks in 2001 Took in ~1300 refugees Something to keep in mind when right wingers (this is mainly directed to other people in the thread) tout the US's "moral superiority" to Muslim countries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #47 October 14, 2015 >It would be nice if that were in fact true -- where did you get that figure? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/12/saudi-arabia-says-reports-of-its-syrian-refugee-response-false-and-misleading Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #48 October 14, 2015 billvon>It would be nice if that were in fact true -- where did you get that figure? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/12/saudi-arabia-says-reports-of-its-syrian-refugee-response-false-and-misleading They also said last month they've taken in 2.5 million over the course of this conflict. Which then begs the question: why would 2.4 million Arabic-speaking refugees leave such a wealthy Arabic-speaking state after being granted freedom of movement, residency and health care? I find this difficult to believe. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #49 October 14, 2015 QuoteWhich then begs the question: why would 2.4 million Arabic-speaking refugees leave such a wealthy Arabic-speaking state after being granted freedom of movement, residency and health care? I find this difficult to believe. ?? I didn't see that anywhere. The article you referenced said that 2.5 million have entered and they have accepted 100,000 as residents with the free health care, education etc. I assume they rejected the rest, although the article doesn't say that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #50 October 14, 2015 billvon>>How many has the US taken in? >Legally or illegally? Both. How many refugees from Syria has the US taken in whether they are legal or not? Why would we take any? How many has China taken? how many has Japan taken? How many has Mexico taken??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
