airdvr 210 #1 September 21, 2015 "I've got a message for corporate America: if you want us to buy your products, you better start producing them here in the United States." -Bernie Sanders - Twitter Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #2 September 21, 2015 airdvr"I've got a message for corporate America: if you want us to buy your products, you better start producing them here in the United States." -Bernie Sanders - Twitter I agree with him... If you are going to beat your chest and pretend to be a Patriotic American... I would suggest actually supporting the American People You can start here in supporting your fellow Americans. http://madeinusaforever.com/ NEED MORE COFFEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #3 September 21, 2015 I understand the emotional plea of buy in America. It sounds great and would be great if it worked at the price point Americans are willing to pay. We can put tariffs on everything to level the playing field, historically I don't think that has proven to be effective. We could change our tax code to not make it advantages to go out of the country. So as far as beating the chest to be a patriotic American.....time has shown over and over that people LIKE the idea of buy American but if it's cheaper and made somewhere else that's what gets bought. Right or left. (Obvious exceptions excluded - Bernie and other frequent posters here)Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 September 21, 2015 That ship sailed a long time ago. Bernie's about 40 years too late. The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't made here anymore. Of course, you can buy a Tesla if you've got an extra 100K lying around. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #5 September 21, 2015 Quote The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't made here anymore. ?? Many cars are made here and sold here.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #6 September 21, 2015 I had a chuckle on the drive home this weekend when we passed a Nissan pickup. It was clearly a redneck truck. He had more stickers than I've seen on a vehicle. Patriotism all over it, including some military stuff and a tailgate mural for the Marines. A number of right-wing stickers, multiple "patriotism" stickers, and of course the required anti-Obama stickers. On a Japanese truck. I wish I could buy more American products in support of our economy. I try my best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 September 21, 2015 airdvr That ship sailed a long time ago. Bernie's about 40 years too late. The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't made here anymore. Of course, you can buy a Tesla if you've got an extra 100K lying around. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad. What???http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/06/these-are-americas-15-busiest-auto-plants/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #8 September 21, 2015 mirage62Quote The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't made here anymore. ?? Many cars are made here and sold here. True, but over 40% of the average car is made outside the US. And the best selling overall brand is Toyota. Those profits leave here and head to Tokyo. http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/buyers-guide/american-car-truck-article-1.2275107Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #9 September 21, 2015 That's an old report, the Mark LT production was moved to Mexico last I heard. Specifically for that market there, they are no longer available in the US. Interesting to not see a single FCA Group Marketing plant on the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #10 September 21, 2015 normiss That's an old report, the Mark LT production was moved to Mexico last I heard. Specifically for that market there, they are no longer available in the US. Interesting to not see a single FCA Group Marketing plant on the list. That is odd, considering I know the Wrangler is still built in Toledo (since they moved it back from Canada). Some googling turned up the FCA plants: http://media.fcanorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do;jsessionid=AFB7272B115B9B8C87DD84CB1BBBD124?&id=9117&mid=18"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #11 September 21, 2015 Isn't the new Renegade made in Turkey? Their new line of work van/truck thingies are made in Italy too. IIRC, they are moving Wrangler production to a new plant in China also. "America's Import" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 September 21, 2015 normiss Isn't the new Renegade made in Turkey? Their new line of work van/truck thingies are made in Italy too. IIRC, they are moving Wrangler production to a new plant in China also. "America's Import" Building in China for the Chinese market, to avoid Chinese tariffs. Not intended to be exported out of China. http://www.allpar.com/world/china.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #13 September 21, 2015 Tariffs. hmpf. Apparently no tit for the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raftman 12 #14 September 21, 2015 How do you know the Nissan wasn't made in 'Merica? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #15 September 21, 2015 > The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't >made here anymore. . . . >I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad. Now you can laugh. All these cars are built in the US: Acura RDX Acura TL BMW X3 BMW X5 BMW X6 Chevrolet Corvette Chevrolet Volt Dodge Avenger Dodge Dakota Jeep Wrangler Ford Econoline Ford F-150 Honda Accord Honda Accord Honda CR-V Honda Civic Honda Element Honda Odyssey Honda Pilot Honda Ridgeline Hyundai Santa Fe Hyundai Sonata Kia Optima Kia Sorento Lincoln MKS Lincoln Navigator Mercedes-Benz GL-Class Mercedes-Benz M-Class Mercedes-Benz R-Class Mitsubishi Eclipse Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder Mitsubishi Endeavor Mitsubishi Galant Nissan Leaf Subaru Legacy Subaru Outback Subaru Tribeca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #16 September 21, 2015 Made or assembled? Big difference.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,118 #17 September 21, 2015 airdvr***Quote The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't made here anymore. ?? Many cars are made here and sold here. True, but over 40% of the average car is made outside the US. And the best selling overall brand is Toyota. Those profits leave here and head to Tokyo. http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/buyers-guide/american-car-truck-article-1.2275107 Hmmm. Airdvr: "Those aren't made here anymore." then... Airdvr: "over 40% of the average car is made outside the US." 100% - 40% = 60% So your first statement didn't even make it to a half-truth.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #18 September 21, 2015 kallend ****** Quote The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't made here anymore. ?? Many cars are made here and sold here. True, but over 40% of the average car is made outside the US. And the best selling overall brand is Toyota. Those profits leave here and head to Tokyo. http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/buyers-guide/american-car-truck-article-1.2275107 Hmmm. Airdvr: "Those aren't made here anymore." then... Airdvr: "over 40% of the average car is made outside the US." 100% - 40% = 60% So your first statement didn't even make it to a half-truth. My 2006 Jeep Wrangler was "assembled" in Toledo.But my 1980 Plymouth Horizon TC3 was an American car!Oh, wait; It had a Volkswagen-built engine, so it wasn't an American car either."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #19 September 21, 2015 Relevant facts for anyone here questioning the made in America label. Not directed at you. https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/plain-language/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,118 #20 September 21, 2015 So how do you feel when overnight a pharmaceutical company raises the price of one tablet from $13.50 to $750? It's OK, just capitalism doing its thing?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #21 September 21, 2015 kallend So how do you feel when overnight a pharmaceutical company raises the price of one tablet from $13.50 to $750? It's OK, just capitalism doing its thing? And it is a 62yo drug???http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #22 September 21, 2015 kallend So how do you feel when overnight a pharmaceutical company raises the price of one tablet from $13.50 to $750? It's OK, just capitalism doing its thing? That's pretty fucked up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #23 September 21, 2015 billvon> The second largest purchase most in the US make is their auto. Those aren't >made here anymore. . . . >I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad. Now you can laugh. All these cars are built in the US: Acura RDX Acura TL BMW X3 BMW X5 BMW X6 Chevrolet Corvette Chevrolet Volt Dodge Avenger Dodge Dakota Jeep Wrangler Ford Econoline Ford F-150 Honda Accord Honda Accord Honda CR-V Honda Civic Honda Element Honda Odyssey Honda Pilot Honda Ridgeline Hyundai Santa Fe Hyundai Sonata Kia Optima Kia Sorento Lincoln MKS Lincoln Navigator Mercedes-Benz GL-Class Mercedes-Benz M-Class Mercedes-Benz R-Class Mitsubishi Eclipse Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder Mitsubishi Endeavor Mitsubishi Galant Nissan Leaf Subaru Legacy Subaru Outback Subaru Tribeca Where are the majority of the parts made?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #24 September 21, 2015 kallend So how do you feel when overnight a pharmaceutical company raises the price of one tablet from $13.50 to $750? It's OK, just capitalism doing its thing? One would think the Affordable Care Act would have prevented that. But back to autos...we now produce a smaller percentage of the worldwide total. 8.2%. 16 million cars were sold in the US in 2014 yet we produced only 5.6 million. Do the math.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #25 September 21, 2015 airdvr But back to autos...we now produce a smaller percentage of the worldwide total. 8.2%. 16 million cars were sold in the US in 2014 yet we produced only 5.6 million. Do the math. How are you measuring that? - By the brand name on the finished product? - By where the final assembly is done? - By where the individual parts are made?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
