Amazon 7 #1 September 18, 2015 Usually I have thought of New Hampshire as relatively sane... but I guess the Idiocracy has spread. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/09/17/3702969/man-asks-trump-when-can-we-get-rid-of-all-the-muslims-in-america-his-answer-was-horrifying/ Man Asks Trump: ‘When Can We Get Rid’ Of All The Muslims In America? Cant we just remove all the maroons first???? Pretty please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #2 September 18, 2015 AmazonUsually I have thought of New Hampshire as relatively sane... but I guess the Idiocracy has spread. http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/09/17/3702969/man-asks-trump-when-can-we-get-rid-of-all-the-muslims-in-america-his-answer-was-horrifying/ Man Asks Trump: ‘When Can We Get Rid’ Of All The Muslims In America? Cant we just remove all the maroons first???? Pretty please A) Trump is an idiot. B) Obama DOES claim to be muslim when it suits his purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #3 September 18, 2015 Realy. When has Obama claimed to be a Muslim? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #4 September 18, 2015 DanGRealy. When has Obama claimed to be a Muslim? Whenever speaking to a Muslim audience. I'm not saying he believes anything in particular. He does, however lay claim to whatever ism is convenient at the time. If this is news to you, it behooves you to do your homework. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,600 #5 September 18, 2015 And that damn JFK was a German, too. He said so in public. I'm in NH right now, at the ancestral family summer camp. One of our neighbors (the one who warned us about chupacabras in the next town ) was talking to my husband about Obama being an alien. As in outer space. Obama has also been suppressing the price of scrap metal; this guy hoards crap in his sister's yard (he lives in the basement), pretending that it's an investment. But it's all part of life on the pond Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #6 September 18, 2015 QuoteWhenever speaking to a Muslim audience. I'm not saying he believes anything in particular. He does, however lay claim to whatever ism is convenient at the time. If this is news to you, it behooves you to do your homework. Yeah. Whatever. I'd press the issue, but you'll just make something up, so why bother? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #7 September 18, 2015 DanGQuoteWhenever speaking to a Muslim audience. I'm not saying he believes anything in particular. He does, however lay claim to whatever ism is convenient at the time. If this is news to you, it behooves you to do your homework. Yeah. Whatever. I'd press the issue, but you'll just make something up, so why bother? For all you know, you have a valid point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #8 September 18, 2015 My point is more valid than, "trust me," which is all you've got on this one. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #9 September 18, 2015 DanGMy point is more valid than, "trust me," which is all you've got on this one. Not quite. Do your own homework and get back to me. A set of clips of our Fearless Leader addressing muslim audiences is easily accessible to anyone doing the most casual search. I do not presume to think for you. If you choose to think, good for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #10 September 18, 2015 QuoteDo your own homework and get back to me. No thanks. You made the claim, you show the proof. QuoteI do not presume to think for you. If you choose to think, good for you. Googling and posting links isn't thinking. If the evidence is so clear and easy to find, you could have posted it by now instead of trying to be all wise and avuncular. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #11 September 18, 2015 winsor***Realy. When has Obama claimed to be a Muslim? Whenever speaking to a Muslim audience. I'm not saying he believes anything in particular. He does, however lay claim to whatever ism is convenient at the time. If this is news to you, it behooves you to do your homework. Winsor - I don't necessarily equate 'extreme pandering' to actually claiming to be part of a group. That's up to the ignorance of any group to infer from the politician. "I'm one of you" is standard speech, but it's an attempt to get the group to identify with the pol, not the pol identifying with the group...... Dan - why so hard to believe? all politicians pander, it's in the training manual. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #12 September 18, 2015 QuoteDan - why so hard to believe? all politicians pander, it's in the training manual. Of course he panders. That's not what winsor (and the loony right) is claiming. It's annoying. I should learn to let it go, but wwhen supposedly educated and intelligent people like winsor keep saying things like,"Obama claims to be a Muslim," it makes me mad. Serenity now... - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #13 September 18, 2015 QuoteWhenever speaking to a Muslim audience. No he doesn't. Why are you saying this? You're not usually an idiot.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #14 September 18, 2015 QuoteNot quite. Do your own homework and get back to me. A set of clips of our Fearless Leader addressing muslim audiences is easily accessible to anyone doing the most casual search. And they don't show what you claim. So I could post loads of videos of him not saying he's a muslim, but you could just say I hadn't found the right one in your bestest condescending teacher voice and we're back where we started. Or, you could just find one video, post it and prove us all wrong. If you're right, that's the easiest, simplest, most logical progression of this discussion. Or, if you're just bullshitting or trolling, keep doing what you're doing.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #15 September 18, 2015 Snopes has a page discussing this, including a 10m video: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp While Snopes classifies it as "false", the text explanation and the video seem to border a gray area."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #16 September 18, 2015 ryoderSnopes has a page discussing this, including a 10m video: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp While Snopes classifies it as "false", the text explanation and the video seem to border a gray area. As noted, it comes down to how you view pandering. "Obama trying to get on the good side of muslim...he's pretending he's a muslim" OK - if you go that route, then Bush speaking Spanish at a speech is Bush claiming to be Hispanic. Or Hillary claiming to be evangelical african american. Or John Kerry claiming to be - well - everyone. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 September 18, 2015 rehmwa OK - if you go that route, then Bush speaking Spanish at a speech is Bush claiming to be Hispanic. Or Hillary claiming to be evangelical african american. Or John Kerry claiming to be - well - everyone. Or JFK claiming to be a Berliner: http://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/john-f-kennedy/videos/ask-history-kennedy-and-the-jelly-doughnut"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #18 September 18, 2015 "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,471 #19 September 18, 2015 Hi Robert, Quote So, I'm thinking no 72 virgins for him. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #20 September 18, 2015 AmazonUsually I have thought of New Hampshire as relatively sane... but I guess the Idiocracy has spread. I have to admit that Obama's presidency has been a real eye-opener. Not everyone who criticizes him is racist. Personally, I oppose many if not most of his policies. But the number of people who think he's Muslim, or Kenyan, or Communist, or all the other idiotic claims that are made is telling me that we haven't gone anywhere near as far from the Pre-Civil-Rights era as I would have thought. There are people who I have known for quite a while who have turned out to be basically closet racists. They instantly believe anything negative about Obama, yet refuse to look at the actual facts. When asked to articulate what they don't like about him, they don't bring up gun control, healthcare, foreign policy, or any other actual fact-based criticisms."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirage62 0 #21 September 18, 2015 Quote There are people who I have known for quite a while who have turned out to be basically closet racists. They instantly believe anything negative about Obama, yet refuse to look at the actual facts. You seem like a reasonable fellow .... I bet you can see the other side. The side of people that believe that absolutely everything he does is great. Neither group is better.Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #22 September 18, 2015 Right, but you get that with any President. There will be a hardcore that love everything, and a hardcore that hates everything. What you didn't get until now (which I think he was pretty clear on explaining) was all the irrelevant bullshit about birth place, citizenship, religion etc. What a great coincidence, that the first black President is the first one to face widespread claims that he's not a real American... Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #23 September 19, 2015 jakee Right, but you get that with any President. There will be a hardcore that love everything, and a hardcore that hates everything. What you didn't get until now (which I think he was pretty clear on explaining) was all the irrelevant bullshit about birth place, citizenship, religion etc. What a great coincidence, that the first black President is the first one to face widespread claims that he's not a real American... Bingo. Thank you. "There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,471 #24 September 19, 2015 Hi jakee, QuoteWhat a great coincidence Once again, jakee nails it. Well done, sir. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
