billvon 3,078 #101 September 3, 2015 >Better news: keep the name what it was. It started as Denali so that's been accomplished. >OR maybe let those of us that live here vote between the two. Alaskans want it named Denali. So good there too. See? No need for any fuss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #102 September 3, 2015 Really ? You've talked to every Alaskan?? Odd because I actually LIVE here and a lot of people want it left McKinley.No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #103 September 3, 2015 >You've talked to every Alaskan?? No. Have you? >Odd because I actually LIVE here and a lot of people want it left McKinley. Most Alaskans prefer Denali. But no big deal; if you want to keep calling it McKinley feel free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #104 September 3, 2015 promise5Really ? You've talked to every Alaskan?? Odd because I actually LIVE here and a lot of people want it left McKinley. In 1975, the Alaska Board of Geographic Names changed the name of the mountain to Denali and, at Governor Jay Hammond's behest, the Alaska Legislature officially requested that the United States Board on Geographic Names (BGN), the federal governmental body responsible for naming geographic features in the United States, change the name of the mountain from "Mount McKinley" to "Mount Denali" In 2009, Alaska State Representative Scott Kawasaki sponsored Alaska House Joint Resolution 15, which urges the U.S. Congress to rename the mountain Denali. Despite efforts in Alaska, Ohio Representatives Betty Sutton and Tim Ryan assumed Regula's role as congressional guardians of the Mount McKinley name and introduced H.R. 229 which reads: "Notwithstanding any other authority of law, the mountain located 63 degrees 04 minutes 12 seconds north, by 151 degrees 00 minutes 18 seconds west shall continue to be named and referred to for all purposes as Mount McKinley." A January 2015 bill submitted by Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski re-proposed renaming North America's highest peak as Denali.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #105 September 3, 2015 You were ok until you got to Murcowski. That woman's about as liked here as ObamaNo matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #106 September 3, 2015 promise5 Really ? You've talked to every Alaskan?? Odd because I actually LIVE here and a lot of people want it left McKinley. AK has been trying for FORTY years to get it changed back to Denali. That was long before you were born, and even longer than you have lived there.(Transplant from WI.)"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #107 September 3, 2015 Oh yes you're right !!! EVERY person the AK has been trying to change. How silly of me. OF COURSE people that don't live here know more then someone that lives here. transplant or notNo matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,545 #108 September 3, 2015 Except for the part about her being elected Senator. That kind of makes it her job to re-address issues that have been stalled like the requested renaming. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #110 September 3, 2015 promise5You were ok until you got to Murcowski. That woman's about as liked here as Obama So you oppose a GOP politician who opposes same-sex marriage? Now I'm confused."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #111 September 3, 2015 Elected ???? She wasn't elected. She won because we had one of the most corrupt elections in the history of the state. It was disgusting !! But again you would have to live here to know.No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #112 September 3, 2015 Please !! She's no more part of the GOP then Obama is.No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #113 September 3, 2015 promise5 Please !! She's no more part of the GOP then Obama is. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Murkowski On September 17, 2010, Murkowski said that she would mount a write-in campaign for the Senate seat. Her write-in campaign was aided in large part with substantial monetary aid and assistance from the Native corporations and PACs, as well as support from state teachers' and firefighters' unions. Looks like someone didn't get the memo."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #114 September 3, 2015 Could you correct that and add just how corrupt those organizations are and how corrupt the write in was. Oh wait dead peoe should be allowed to vote.No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #115 September 3, 2015 There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyMarko 1 #116 September 3, 2015 We need to be sensitive! We don't know how the mountain identifies! /s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,078 #117 September 3, 2015 QuoteOh yes you're right !!! EVERY person the AK has been trying to change. How silly of me. OF COURSE people that don't live here know more then someone that lives here. transplant or not Wow, people are making a huge stink out of this. The name was changed back to what it was originally. The state wanted it and NPS was OK with it. Why the drama? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
promise5 17 #118 September 3, 2015 The state ?? I don't remember it coming up for a vote.No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible. Believe me I tried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #119 September 3, 2015 promise5The state ?? I don't remember it coming up for a vote. You don't remember it, because that is not how it works. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #120 September 3, 2015 promise5The state ?? I don't remember it coming up for a vote. So how old were you in 1975? The Alaska Board of Geographic Names changed the name of the mountain to Denali in 1975, which is how it is called locally.[5][23] However, a request in 1975 from the Alaska state legislature to the United States Board on Geographic Names to do the same at the federal level was blocked by Ohio congressman Ralph Regula, whose district included McKinley's hometown of Canton. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali#Naming"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #121 September 3, 2015 So, why do you want it to stay Mt. McKinley? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #122 September 3, 2015 ryoder ***The state ?? I don't remember it coming up for a vote. So how old were you in 1975? The Alaska Board of Geographic Names changed the name of the mountain to Denali in 1975, which is how it is called locally.[5][23] However, a request in 1975 from the Alaska state legislature to the United States Board on Geographic Names to do the same at the federal level was blocked by Ohio congressman Ralph Regula, whose district included McKinley's hometown of Canton. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denali#Naming oh, so it's easy then The people of Alaska can decide what to call their mountains. And the people of Ohio can go ahead and name mountains in Ohio whatever they like. Or, they can offer to trade some local naming right to Alaska if they feel the need - or offer to purchase the naming right from Alaska...... (this really shouldn't be a federal thing, you know...it's a really just another good example of why the feds should leave as much as possible to more local government - this is a waste of federal effort. I want my money back for this one.) Yes - I'm in Minnesota and we should be able to charge the state of Mississippi for hijacking the name the local stretch of the major river that starts here and runs inside and along our border. Clearly it should be called the Hot Dish River. Screw Mississippi and their intrusive populace. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #123 September 3, 2015 billvonQuoteOh yes you're right !!! EVERY person the AK has been trying to change. How silly of me. OF COURSE people that don't live here know more then someone that lives here. transplant or not Wow, people are making a huge stink out of this. The name was changed back to what it was originally. The state wanted it and NPS was OK with it. Why the drama? Because of some assholes in Ohio who want to keep the McKinley nameThere will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #124 September 3, 2015 Isn't it in a National Park? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #125 September 3, 2015 I live just outside of Canton, McKinley's hometown. With everything that's fucked up in the world today who gives a flying fuck what they call the mountain. Personally, I've always thought the guys who named a mountain range "Big Tits" were probably fun to hang with.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
