turtlespeed 226 #26 August 19, 2015 winsor***>I'd think any arguments in interpretation would be made here: "and subject to >the jurisdiction thereof." I think that even Donald Trump would be hesitant to say that some people born here are not subject to our laws. "Born here to two illegal parents? Well, the bad news is you ain't a citizen. The good news is we can't prosecute you for anything!" Well, we can't prosecute you, but we CAN relocate you to the Aleutians or use you for medical experiments. That happens when they only partially give birth.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #27 August 19, 2015 turtlespeed******>I'd think any arguments in interpretation would be made here: "and subject to >the jurisdiction thereof." I think that even Donald Trump would be hesitant to say that some people born here are not subject to our laws. "Born here to two illegal parents? Well, the bad news is you ain't a citizen. The good news is we can't prosecute you for anything!" Well, we can't prosecute you, but we CAN relocate you to the Aleutians or use you for medical experiments. That happens when they only partially give birth. Not necessarily. Btw, there is a huge difference between a first trimester D&C and the fourth trimester termination practiced by the guy in Philadelphia. Treating the two as interchangeable is disingenuous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #28 August 19, 2015 billvon>we can't prosecute you for anything!" it's a silly argument if the reality is actually "we can't prosecute you, or protect you, for/from anything" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #29 August 19, 2015 winsor*********>I'd think any arguments in interpretation would be made here: "and subject to >the jurisdiction thereof." I think that even Donald Trump would be hesitant to say that some people born here are not subject to our laws. "Born here to two illegal parents? Well, the bad news is you ain't a citizen. The good news is we can't prosecute you for anything!" Well, we can't prosecute you, but we CAN relocate you to the Aleutians or use you for medical experiments. That happens when they only partially give birth. Not necessarily. Btw, there is a huge difference between a first trimester D&C and the fourth trimester termination practiced by the guy in Philadelphia. Treating the two as interchangeable is disingenuous. But it was a snappy response.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billeisele 130 #30 August 21, 2015 kallendThe Donald wants to eliminate birthright citizenship. Christie, Paul and Graham agree. Since that is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, it would require another amendment to eliminate it. interesting statement, not necessarily correct there will be much discussion about this http://www.libertylawsite.org/2015/08/21/what-did-the-14th-amendment-congress-think-about-birthright-citizenship/Give one city to the thugs so they can all live together. I vote for Chicago where they have strict gun laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #31 August 21, 2015 billeisele***The Donald wants to eliminate birthright citizenship. Christie, Paul and Graham agree. Since that is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, it would require another amendment to eliminate it. interesting statement, not necessarily correct there will be much discussion about this http://www.libertylawsite.org/2015/08/21/what-did-the-14th-amendment-congress-think-about-birthright-citizenship/ The clear bias of that source is apparent both in its own self-description and in the sentence: "And the frequently-cited language in Plyler v. Doe (1982)—a 5-4 decision written by the notorious activist Justice William Brennan, hardly a credible authority".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 August 21, 2015 kallend******The Donald wants to eliminate birthright citizenship. Christie, Paul and Graham agree. Since that is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, it would require another amendment to eliminate it. interesting statement, not necessarily correct there will be much discussion about this http://www.libertylawsite.org/2015/08/21/what-did-the-14th-amendment-congress-think-about-birthright-citizenship/ The clear bias of that source is apparent both in its own self-description and in the sentence: "And the frequently-cited language in Plyler v. Doe (1982)—a 5-4 decision written by the notorious activist Justice William Brennan, hardly a credible authority". Just another GOP front posing as "Libertarians" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Fund Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #33 August 22, 2015 billeisele***The Donald wants to eliminate birthright citizenship. Christie, Paul and Graham agree. Since that is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, it would require another amendment to eliminate it. interesting statement, not necessarily correct there will be much discussion about this http://www.libertylawsite.org/2015/08/21/what-did-the-14th-amendment-congress-think-about-birthright-citizenship/ Even John Yoo in the National Review disagrees. www.nationalreview.com/article/422914/birthright-citizenship-donald-trump... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
