Anvilbrother 0 #51 August 8, 2015 These are words that have nothing to do with with you said. I am replying to you and saying things that have no relationship to this conversation. See I can do that too. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #52 August 8, 2015 It's really easy, We deal with an ever increasingly armed populace. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,079 #53 August 8, 2015 >Cops are bad.........hmmmmkkkkk If that's what you got out of my post - you are part of the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #54 August 8, 2015 skycopIt's really easy, We deal with an ever increasingly armed populace. But so many victims of police shootings turn out to be unarmed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #55 August 8, 2015 kallend ***It's really easy, We deal with an ever increasingly armed populace. But so many victims of police shootings turn out to be unarmed. Details....Details Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #56 August 8, 2015 skycop .... We deal with an ever increasingly armed populace. Yeah. 2nd amendment, I guess Fighting for freedom to be armed. USA. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #57 August 8, 2015 There is a gun at every scene, and "so many" is complete BS. Knifes, cars, BB guns, realistic air soft guns, flag poles, shovels, the list goes on. I've said this more than once, fight an armed guy, you do so at your own peril. This happens hundreds of times yearly, but is seldom reported past local news. For the 24 hour news cycle it's turned in to a game of piling-on. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f16_1439047365 Meanwhile cops continued to do a difficult and dangerous job. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #58 August 8, 2015 QuoteYeah. 2nd amendment, I guess Unimpressed Fighting for freedom to be armed. USA. Confiscating guns 80 yrs ago worked out so well for your country.................. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #59 August 8, 2015 skycop Knifes, cars, BB guns, realistic air soft guns, flag poles, shovels, the list goes on. Well, all of the above are easily available in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, The Netherlands, France, UK, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, etc. yet their cops aren't killing their civilians at anything like the rate US cops do it. So clearly that's just a red herring.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #60 August 8, 2015 skycopQuoteYeah. 2nd amendment, I guess Unimpressed Fighting for freedom to be armed. USA. Confiscating guns 80 yrs ago worked out so well for your country.................. Some people seem to forget that Hitler came to office by democratic process. It wasn't a coup. ALSO, the Nazis actually made gun ownership easier than it had been following the Treaty of Versailles. The German Weapons Act of 1938 removed all restrictions on long guns, exempted a whole bunch of people from any restrictions, and lowered the minimum age of gun ownership. The old Nazi Gun Confiscation meme is just NRA Kool Aid.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #61 August 8, 2015 skycop Quote Yeah. 2nd amendment, I guess Unimpressed Fighting for freedom to be armed. USA. Confiscating guns 80 yrs ago worked out so well for your country.................. Yep. I love to live here. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #62 August 8, 2015 Uhhh...........nope.......... People attack cops with those, like I said there are vast numbers of use of force situations where the outcome is not lethal force. I can tell it to you this way, I know HUNDREDS of cops, I only know a handful that have ever used lethal force. The ones I do know are good guys, who did what they had to do. They aren't proud of it, they don't broadcast it, and it still effects them deeply. Of all the cops I know, almost every one has had a situation where they could have used deadly force, but didn't. I've had several, each time the persons actions put them in jeopardy, I was simply reacting. The notion that the police are just randomly going around shooting people is complete bullshit. We live in an armed violent society, that is the reality. Do cops make mistakes, yes they do, do cops go into work thinking "I'm gonna shoot someone today", absolutely not. I've mentioned before I met a Sgt. from London Metro PD, he openly stated he can't figure out how or why we police here. He said he'd never be able to do it, same with a few other international cops I've met during my travels. So keep bashing, meanwhile your local police are out in your community trying to do the best they can, doing an extremely difficult job. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #63 August 8, 2015 Making excuses for Nazi's Actual Nazi's That is a new all time low for you. Gotta love academia............. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #64 August 8, 2015 I don't think we should be surprised that you feel historic facts are "making excuses". But it makes perspective easier to see now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #65 August 8, 2015 skycop Meanwhile cops continued to do a difficult and dangerous job. It's really not all that dangerous.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #66 August 8, 2015 I agree, I've said this ad-nauseam as well, I knew someone would bring this up. When I trained guys I'd tell them if they thought they walked the line of death everyday, they'd be wrong. Policework is mainly hours of mundane tasks, interrupted by moments of sheer terror and despair. One needs to be ready for those moments at all times, they can come at anytime and anyplace. Police work is uniquely dangerous, it includes the human factor, where potential things that could injure or kill you plot, plan, and can strike at anytime without warning. By definition cops live in various states of hyper-vigilance, that's what makes the danger unique. Like a sign at the dropzone said, "you can do everything right, and still end up dead". Cops resign themselves to that fact daily. I told the young guys to embrace that, use good judgment and trust the training, and you can mitigate that significantly. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #67 August 8, 2015 QuoteI don't think we should be surprised that you feel historic facts are "making excuses". But it makes perspective easier to see now. You are defending Nazi's as well? I'm sure gun ownership was awesome in the Third Reich,..........if you were a Nazi........... Wow, this is the worst case of moral relativism I've ever seen. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #68 August 8, 2015 We don't generally defend facts so much as we recognize them as such. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #69 August 8, 2015 skycopMaking excuses for Nazi's Actual Nazi's That is a new all time low for you. Gotta love academia............. FACTS aren't excuses. They are just facts, and inconvenient ones for you. Hitler's firearms act of 1938 was actually more lenient than the one of the regime that preceded him. With the exception of Jews, German citizens were NOT disarmed by the Nazis. Just FACTS.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #70 August 8, 2015 FACTS aren't excuses. QuoteThey are just facts, and inconvenient ones for you. Hitlers Firearms act of 1938 was actually more lenient than the one of the regime that preceded him. Just FACTS. Sure if you were a member of the party, if you weren't I know that wasn't frowned upon.......... Again, wow, just wow.......... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 858 #71 August 8, 2015 Wow is right. A cop that doesn't believe facts. Defines them as "excuses" even. Maybe Bill is right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #72 August 8, 2015 Really? Yes, I am part of the problem evidently because I don't feel the "Hitler wasn't that bad" argument isn't the best course of action. But hey, next time I try to use a sense of humor with the intellectual crowd, I'll think twice. You have a nice day! "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #73 August 8, 2015 AnvilbrotherThe same reason police shoot more people here than Police do in other countries. The people they are dealing with. Sooo, you're telling me the US population is 300 times more violent towards cops than the UK population? You guys are fucking animals!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,108 #74 August 8, 2015 skycop Police work is uniquely dangerous... Nonsense. Plenty of occupations have a higher risk of death. Police work doesn't even make the top ten. www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/10-most-dangerous-jobs-us-11.aspx www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-2014-12?op=1 You are playing fast and loose with the facts today.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #75 August 8, 2015 skycopThere is a gun at every scene, What, a cops gun? Yeah, should make it that much easier to subdue an unarmed guy without shooting him, right?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites