normiss 895 #26 June 22, 2015 Well, except for the mental and psychotropic drugs issues anyway. I want to see gun rights suspended while on certain scripts and under the care of a mental health expert or facility. We seem quite happy to accept prescription drug addict creation under our healthcare system. But then HIPPA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #27 June 22, 2015 and why can't we foreigners are not allowed to protect ourselves ? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #28 June 22, 2015 kallend Don't need new laws. Need better, effective, and uniform enforcement of restrictions that already exist. Sounds good to me. After the Sandy Hook shooting, one thing that was being advocated was background checks for all purchases (including private party). The NRA was invited to the discussion. One thing they asked was why the current laws regarding background checks weren't being enforced. As in, why aren't any people who lie about their past being prosecuted. 44 prosecutions out of 72000 (Seventy two thousand) denials. VP Biden said "We don't have time for that." Before adding new laws or expanding the ones in place, how about enforcing them? How about prosecuting the people that violate them? http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/18/biden-to-nra-we-dont-have-the-time-to-prosecute-people-who-lie-on-background-checks/"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #29 June 22, 2015 wolfriverjoe*** Don't need new laws. Need better, effective, and uniform enforcement of restrictions that already exist. Sounds good to me. After the Sandy Hook shooting, one thing that was being advocated was background checks for all purchases (including private party). The NRA was invited to the discussion. One thing they asked was why the current laws regarding background checks weren't being enforced. As in, why aren't any people who lie about their past being prosecuted. 44 prosecutions out of 72000 (Seventy two thousand) denials. VP Biden said "We don't have time for that." Before adding new laws or expanding the ones in place, how about enforcing them? How about prosecuting the people that violate them? http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/18/biden-to-nra-we-dont-have-the-time-to-prosecute-people-who-lie-on-background-checks/ Indeed. Adding new restrictions (that won't be enforced) on top of currently unenforced restrictions is a waste of time and just irritates legitimate law abiding sane gun enthusiasts.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #30 June 24, 2015 normiss Well, except for the mental and psychotropic drugs issues anyway. I want to see gun rights suspended while on certain scripts and under the care of a mental health expert or facility. We seem quite happy to accept prescription drug addict creation under our healthcare system. But then HIPPA. Do you think that loosing/suspension of your right to own a gun will frighten some from seeking mental help? It's kind of the same deal with professional licenses, the very people people who need help the most, could be persuaded from obtaining it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 895 #31 June 24, 2015 The right to own one is pretty loose as it is I think. Yes, I think that is a risk as well. Same reason pilots memorize the eye test? Ignoring it doesn't seem to be working very well though does it? You'd think since we're ALL in the medical databases now that it would almost be an automatic notification. Getting counseling? Got a psychotropic 'script? Permit suspended, next! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #32 June 24, 2015 ***Ignoring it doesn't seem to be working very well though does it? Why do you say it isn't working very well now? Derek V Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #33 June 24, 2015 jclalor ***Well, except for the mental and psychotropic drugs issues anyway. I want to see gun rights suspended while on certain scripts and under the care of a mental health expert or facility. We seem quite happy to accept prescription drug addict creation under our healthcare system. But then HIPPA. Do you think that loosing/suspension of your right to own a gun will frighten some from seeking mental help? It's kind of the same deal with professional licenses, the very people people who need help the most, could be persuaded from obtaining it. THIS RIGHT HERE!! There are commercial airline pilots flying overhead right now with problems like ADD, and other issues that go untreated because the FAA will revoke their medical or make them jump through expensive and lengthy psychological testing if they find out. Even after favorable test results it still goes back to the flight surgeon and is up to them to accept the documents. Once something like ADD is on your medical your flying career is over in all positions commercial or private so they ignore it and continue to fly untreated. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #34 June 24, 2015 QuoteTHIS RIGHT HERE!! There are commercial airline pilots flying overhead right now with problems like ADD, and other issues that go untreated because the FAA will revoke their medical or make them jump through expensive and lengthy psychological testing if they find out. Agreed, it's a problem. The solution is not "let pilots with severe ADD keep flying" nor is it "let insane people own guns." As with any complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, obvious - and wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
