AGW +2C? +6C? It has happened before.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

*********OK
NOW, we have given up on the adjusted data showing there was no pause, and we are going back to making excused for the pause?

Really?


I wish the alarmists would settle on one story lie


I mean line....

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/13/another-excuse-for-the-pause-trenberth-says-internal-climate-variability-masks-climate-warming-trends/

Most of us don't post stuff from Salon or Daily Kos because it is obviously biased.

It's high time you recognize that wattsupwiththat is also biased and therefore lacking in credibility.

Says you


Actually
It is a very respected sight

Execpt for radicals who bash it off handedly

No it is NOT respected by any academics or climate professionals. It may be respected by the likes of Glenn Beck and Marc Rush, but that's not saying much. And it doesn't even attempt to hide its bias. Willard Anthony Watts even proclaims himself a denier - you can't get more biased than that.

Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a former radio weatherman and non-scientist, and a paid AGW denier. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather man. Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by coal and oil companies.

Sorry
your wrong
It is respected by professionals on both sides to the issue

YOU just cant stand that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,112]

rushmc

************OK
NOW, we have given up on the adjusted data showing there was no pause, and we are going back to making excused for the pause?

Really?


I wish the alarmists would settle on one story lie


I mean line....

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/13/another-excuse-for-the-pause-trenberth-says-internal-climate-variability-masks-climate-warming-trends/

Most of us don't post stuff from Salon or Daily Kos because it is obviously biased.

It's high time you recognize that wattsupwiththat is also biased and therefore lacking in credibility.

Says you


Actually
It is a very respected sight

Execpt for radicals who bash it off handedly

No it is NOT respected by any academics or climate professionals. It may be respected by the likes of Glenn Beck and Marc Rush, but that's not saying much. And it doesn't even attempt to hide its bias. Willard Anthony Watts even proclaims himself a denier - you can't get more biased than that.

Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a former radio weatherman and non-scientist, and a paid AGW denier. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather man. Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by coal and oil companies.

Sorry
your wrong
It is respected by professionals on both sides to the issue

YOU just cant stand that

And you can't handle the truth. Watts is a PAID denier with zero credentials as a scientist (just like you). No way is his blog unbiased.

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[rushmc 23]

Actually
Watts is NOT a denier

You should read some of the replies below some of the posts
Very informative debates go on there

Oh
And they are very respectful

You could learn from that alone

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,080]

>It is a very respected sight

I'm not surprised you respect that "sight." It is run by Anthony Watts (hence the name.) Watts is a blogger and weathercaster. No university qualification and no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer. He is paid by the Heartland Institute to be a denier. He's a perfect denier for your veneration.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>It is a very respected sight

I'm not surprised you respect that "sight." It is run by Anthony Watts (hence the name.) Watts is a blogger and weathercaster. No university qualification and no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer. He is paid by the Heartland Institute to be a denier. He's a perfect denier for your veneration.

He is not the only one that posts there by a long shot

AND, as I have posted here before, he is NOT a denier
He actually believes man IS changing the climate
He does however question the tactics (IE lies) and gloom and doom predictions

He welcomes all posters and they have some excellent debates

But I realize many warmists do NOT want to debate
Kind of like the current EPA chief

But no matter

Since he hosts a sight you do not agree with he will be treated just like republican canidates

Nothing new here

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[lawrocket 3]

I avoid wuwt because it's just too much hassle. Watts himself is all right. And watts does a good job compiling some information and articles from people of all persuasions. But I just find his stuff too slanted to really be approachable.

What watts does do well is present information clearly. The people doing the stuff on the site are pretty good. Nevertheless, I see wuwt as little more than the other side of skepticalscience, which bill frequently cites. Another site that, like watts, could be so damned much better with a bit more appreciation of the other side and inclusion of all data.

Anthony Watts is really no better than Bill Nye. But I can also tell that all these people criticizing wuwt don't ever look at it. They seem to think that Anthony Watts writes all of it. Not even close.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Anvilbrother 0]

What are al gores qualifications? He is the messiah of climate change according to the left, he must have all the master degrees to get everyone to follow and believe him right?

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[rushmc 23]

lawrocket

I avoid wuwt because it's just too much hassle. Watts himself is all right. And watts does a good job compiling some information and articles from people of all persuasions. But I just find his stuff too slanted to really be approachable.

What watts does do well is present information clearly. The people doing the stuff on the site are pretty good. Nevertheless, I see wuwt as little more than the other side of skepticalscience, which bill frequently cites. Another site that, like watts, could be so damned much better with a bit more appreciation of the other side and inclusion of all data.

Anthony Watts is really no better than Bill Nye. But I can also tell that all these people criticizing wuwt don't ever look at it. They seem to think that Anthony Watts writes all of it. Not even close.

I get more info from the comments/debates that follow many of the posts

And while I do not agree with your assurtion, I understand why you think that way

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,080]

>What are al gores qualifications?

None. He's a politician. If you have been relying on Al Gore for scientific research - shame on you.

[Anvilbrother 0]

Ok so using kallends logic everything on his website is invalid. He is a climate alarmist. Runs websites on the subject. He has no degrees in the field.

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[billvon 3,080]

>Ok so using kallends logic everything on his website is invalid.

I have no idea; I haven't seen his website. For all I know he chose good peer-reviewed stuff to put on there. Or he may have chosen nonsense. Not someone I look to for science.

[Anvilbrother 0]

My reply wasn't a question it was a statement.

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[billvon 3,080]

>My reply wasn't a question it was a statement.

It seemed to be your interpretation of something Kallend said, and it seems to be in error.

[kallend 2,112]

Anvilbrother

Ok so using kallends logic everything on his website is invalid. He is a climate alarmist. Runs websites on the subject. He has no degrees in the field.

Rushmc frequently cites "wattsupwiththat" as a legitimate source of unbiased information despite Watts' stated position as a denier. I do not believe either I, or billvon, or anyone else who posts here, have cited Al Gore's web site as a source of unbiased information.

See the difference?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Anvilbrother 0]

Oh I understand your way to attempt to back out of this by trying to say it is different because Al gores website was never used in this thread specifically. The fact is you implied information from watts himself and his website was not credible based off the fact that he was a denier, and he has no degrees in the fields related to climate change. Climate change arguements do not exist solely in this thread so that is a poor excuse, either you opinion stands in all media forms or it was a terrible excuse to begin with.

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[lawrocket 3]

Anvilbrother

Ok so using kallends logic everything on his website is invalid. He is a climate alarmist. Runs websites on the subject. He has no degrees in the field.

After years of this, can safely say that I have no idea whether kallend is an alarmist or a lukewarmist or what. I don't think he has taken any affirmative stance. He is adept at pointing out flaws in reasoning and logic and seems to lean toward the believer side.

But his true beliefs are enigma to me.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[kallend 2,112]

Anvilbrother

Oh I understand your way to attempt to back out of this by trying to say it is different because Al gores website was never used in this thread specifically. The fact is you implied information from watts himself and his website was not credible based off the fact that he was a denier, and he has no degrees in the fields related to climate change. Climate change arguements do not exist solely in this thread so that is a poor excuse, either you opinion stands in all media forms or it was a terrible excuse to begin with.

Having a little READING COMPREHENSION problem today? Back up a few posts and you'll see it's about not citing obviously biased sources as if they are objective.

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Most of us don't post stuff from Salon or Daily Kos because it is obviously biased.

It's high time you recognize that wattsupwiththat is also biased and therefore lacking in credibility.

I don't cite Gore (ever) because he's clearly biased. Neither does Billvon. Marc Rush, OTOH, repeatedly cites Watts despite Watts' clear, admitted bias.

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[Anvilbrother 0]

Spin it however you wish the facts are there.

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It's high time you recognize that wattsupwiththat is also biased and therefore lacking in credibility.

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No it is NOT respected by any academics or climate professionals. It may be respected by the likes of Glenn Beck and Marc Rush, but that's not saying much. And it doesn't even attempt to hide its bias. Willard Anthony Watts even proclaims himself a denier - you can't get more biased than that.

Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a former radio weatherman and non-scientist, and a paid AGW denier. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather man. Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by coal and oil companies.

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And you can't handle the truth. Watts is a PAID denier with zero credentials as a scientist (just like you).

These are the things you stated about watts, most all of it applies to Gore meaning that they are pretty much equal as far as credibility goes.

I simply stated

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What are al gores qualifications? He is the messiah of climate change according to the left, he must have all the master degrees to get everyone to follow and believe him right?

It then spun off into a who posts what for reference links etc. No one ever said anyone here did use gore as such so I am not sure where that argument came from. My main point was that if we are to use your logic neither should be used as a qualified climate expert

Once again it was NEVER about me saying anyone posted links it was about using your logic and applying it to Gore. If watts is all of the above so is Gore that was the point..

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[billvon 3,080]

>What are al gores qualifications? He is the messiah of climate change according
> to the left

Who the hell cares what the left thinks? That's a strawman; no one here is quoting Gore.

[Anvilbrother 0]

Who cares that you say who cares? Isn't this a thread where people have been discussing all things related to climate change for months now? Ooh and yes people have quoted gore here in this forum before.

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[kallend 2,112]

But no-one here is citing Gore.

Your comments are therefore totally irrelevant.

A clear case of "Whoosh".

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,112]

Anvilbrother

Who cares that you say who cares? Isn't this a thread where people have been discussing all things related to climate change for months now? Ooh and yes people have quoted gore here in this forum before.

Ooh.

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[billvon 3,080]

> Ooh and yes people have quoted gore here in this forum before.

Sure, right wingers have. He's one of the right wing's most hated. Most people interested in climate change don't pay him much attention.

>Who cares that you say who cares?

Hey, if Gore is important to you, by all means, care.

[Anvilbrother 0]

I don't
It isn't
I just want acknowledgment that if those rule apply to watts
It is the same for gore.
That is all.

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[billvon 3,080]

>I just want acknowledgment that if those rule apply to watts
>It is the same for gore.

Sure does. Tell you what - let's agree to disregard both of them from here on out.