"Polar Temperature Recordings ‘Proving’ Climate Change Nothing More than a Guess"

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Temperature readings from the Arctic and Antarctic used to estimate the effects of global warming are nothing more than guesswork, a climate researcher has said. Dr Benny Peiser heads up the Global Warming Policy Foundation, which last month announced its intention to launch a wide-ranging review of the data underpinning claims on global warming.

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“This is not about anthropogenic or man-made climate change, this is about whether the gatekeepers of the data, the meteorological agencies, are providing reliable information.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/15/polar-temperature-recordings-proving-climate-change-nothing-more-than-a-guess/

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Temperature readings from the Arctic and Antarctic used to estimate the effects of global warming are nothing more than guesswork, a climate researcher has said. Dr Benny Peiser heads up the Global Warming Policy Foundation, which last month announced its intention to launch a wide-ranging review of the data underpinning claims on global warming.

***“This is not about anthropogenic or man-made climate change, this is about whether the gatekeepers of the data, the meteorological agencies, are providing reliable information.”

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/15/polar-temperature-recordings-proving-climate-change-nothing-more-than-a-guess/

And if he finds the data is no more than opinion, what will it change?
Do you think the left will change its entire survival mechanism?

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A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science.

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A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science.

Why do you know this to be fact?

Seriously. What makes you state that as absolute fact?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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turtlespeed

Why do you know this to be fact?

I know the person making the claim is a Dr. of Social Anthropology. That is, in fact, a fact.

Social anthropology is not even vaguely related to climate science. No more so than the training a burger flipper gets at McDonald's University.

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***Why do you know this to be fact?

I know the person making the claim is a Dr. of Social Anthropology. That is, in fact, a fact.

Social anthropology is not even vaguely related to climate science. No more so than the training a burger flipper gets at McDonald's University.

Huh. So what is a liberal arts degree entitle you to?

I have seen some go on to head finance companies.

One has nothing whatsoever to do with the other.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

Huh. So what is a liberal arts degree entitle you to?

Make shit up.

Then again, I'm fairly certain you don't want people making shit up when it comes to deciding the potential impacts of global warming.

You probably want somebody who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

I think those guys are called scientists or something. Maybe I'm just making that last part up.

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A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science.

I swear, if I said the sky is up you would say its down!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

***A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science.

I swear, if I said the sky is up you would say its down!

I believe even a burger flipper knows up from down. How else does he know which way to flip the burger?

Then again, perhaps you are a gravity denier. I haven't heard you speak on such matters, but I'm certain you're as qualified as say, someone with a Dr. of Social Anthropology.

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******A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science.

I swear, if I said the sky is up you would say its down!

I believe even a burger flipper knows up from down. How else does he know which way to flip the burger?

Then again, perhaps you are a gravity denier. I haven't heard you speak on such matters, but I'm certain you're as qualified as say, someone with a Dr. of Social Anthropology.

See how much fun we can have when the same stupid shit you pull is used against you!!

Please, lets continue!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Rush, here's the thing . . . no.

First of all, you're not doing it right. It's no fun playing with people would can't understand the way a joke works and when he tries to use it fucks it up.

When I write, "A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science." and you respond with "I swear, if I said the sky is up you would say its down!", then it proves to me you have no idea how that game is played.

I'm not playing a game with you, you clearly don't understand. It's unfair. It's like playing chess with a pudding.

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Rush, here's the thing . . . no.

First of all, you're not doing it right. It's no fun playing with people would can't understand the way a joke works and when he tries to use it fucks it up.

When I write, "A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science." and you respond with "I swear, if I said the sky is up you would say its down!", then it proves to me you have no idea how that game is played.

I'm not playing a game with you, you clearly don't understand. It's unfair. It's like playing chess with a pudding.

Joke?

All my post did is treat you with the same disrespect you treat anyone who disagrees with you!

No content replier supreme!

Have a nice day Paul

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Rush, here's the thing . . . no.

First of all, you're not doing it right. It's no fun playing with people would can't understand the way a joke works and when he tries to use it fucks it up.

When I write, "A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science." and you respond with "I swear, if I said the sky is up you would say its down!", then it proves to me you have no idea how that game is played.

I'm not playing a game with you, you clearly don't understand. It's unfair. It's like playing chess with a pudding.

BTW
Have you forgotten your sun or moon in the sky comment?

Ya
I bet you did

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

Joke?

Yes, Rush. It's actually a rather famous one (bastardized slightly) from Shakespeare's "Taming of the Shrew."
Source: http://nfs.sparknotes.com/shrew/page_206.html

I'll forgive you if you didn't understand that because, well, you probably don't have a liberal arts degree.

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***Joke?

Yes, Rush. It's actually a rather famous one (bastardized slightly) from Shakespeare's "Taming of the Shrew."
Source: http://nfs.sparknotes.com/shrew/page_206.html

I'll forgive you if you didn't understand that because, well, you probably don't have a liberal arts degree.

Thank God I do NOT have a lib degree
I might treat others as you do
My mom raised me better than that

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

My mom raised me better than that

Then what happened?

I only ask because it is you who attacked me in this thread. I had said nothing regarding you whatsoever.

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***My mom raised me better than that

Then what happened?

I only ask because it is you who attacked me in this thread. I had said nothing regarding you whatsoever.

I attacked you?

By using the same tactics you use?

Ah

Ok

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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***Huh. So what is a liberal arts degree entitle you to?

Make shit up.

Then again, I'm fairly certain you don't want people making shit up when it comes to deciding the potential impacts of global warming.

You probably want somebody who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

I think those guys are called scientists or something. Maybe I'm just making that last part up.

You mean the scientists that are referenced in this article?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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***Huh. So what is a liberal arts degree entitle you to?

Make shit up.

Then again, I'm fairly certain you don't want people making shit up when it comes to deciding the potential impacts of global warming.

You probably want somebody who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

I think those guys are called scientists or something. Maybe I'm just making that last part up.


Trutle.... nah

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rushmc

***A Dr. of Social Anthropology is about as qualified to make that statement as any, say, burger flipper who ditched high school science.

I swear, if I said the sky is up you would say its down!


You would say its down... if the company newsletter said so

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******Huh. So what is a liberal arts degree entitle you to?

Make shit up.

Then again, I'm fairly certain you don't want people making shit up when it comes to deciding the potential impacts of global warming.

You probably want somebody who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

I think those guys are called scientists or something. Maybe I'm just making that last part up.


Trutle.... nah

Actually, yes, but one we can trust.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

*********Huh. So what is a liberal arts degree entitle you to?

Make shit up.

Then again, I'm fairly certain you don't want people making shit up when it comes to deciding the potential impacts of global warming.

You probably want somebody who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

I think those guys are called scientists or something. Maybe I'm just making that last part up.


Trutle.... nah

Actually, yes, but one we can trust.

So one approved by the Energy Industry.... got it.... I suppose if David Koch said he is ok... you are good with his word

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************Huh. So what is a liberal arts degree entitle you to?

Make shit up.

Then again, I'm fairly certain you don't want people making shit up when it comes to deciding the potential impacts of global warming.

You probably want somebody who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about.

I think those guys are called scientists or something. Maybe I'm just making that last part up.


Trutle.... nah

Actually, yes, but one we can trust.

So one approved by the Energy Industry.... got it.... I suppose if David Koch said he is ok... you are good with his word

One without a job that depends on the outcome of his report.
One who won't lose funding if he reports the wrong thing.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

One without a job that depends on the outcome of his report.
One who won't lose funding if he reports the wrong thing.

Turtle, you make this far too easy.

Please find me the legitimate climate scientist on the denier side who isn't funded by energy companies.

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Dr Benny Peiser

Peiser? Ah yes, I remember him. He's the one who claimed "THERE'S NO CONSENSUS!" and claimed that all the figures about the consensus were inaccurate. When he was asked to prove this, he listed 34 papers in a study of 928 peer reviewed papers that he claimed did not agree with the consensus. When scientists started asking him more questions, he started to back down: "I accept that it was a mistake to include the abstract you mentioned (and some other rather ambiguous ones) in my critique of the Oreskes essay." When the pressure mounted, he admitted he could only find ONE paper out of 928 that refuted the consensus - thus proving that there was, in fact, a consensus.

I expect the same thing to happen here. In a year or so he'll publish an retraction, hoping no one will notice. This is common among professional deniers. The pattern usually goes like this:

Denier: "There's no warming!"
Science: "Here's the proof."
Denier: "The numbers were doctored!"
Science: "Here's the trend without the adjustment and the trend with the adjustment. They both show warming."
Denier: "Well, look, it might be warming a little bit, but why did you have to change things?"
Science: "Because we reviewed the instrumental data, and realized that there were systemic errors in this list of stations due to the type of thermocouple they were using. Since the errors were nonlinear, the adjustment was made . . . "
Denier: "Well that's all very confusing; I certainly don't understand it. Why is it so hard to understand? WHY IS THERE NO TRANSPARENCY?"