ryoder 1,590 #1 May 7, 2015 http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/05/07/404898259/federal-court-bulk-collection-of-phone-metadata-is-illegal But didn't FISA say it was OK? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 May 7, 2015 Now let's see what's done about it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertt 0 #3 May 8, 2015 It's not metadata, it's data. The NSA has been doing this since the 1980's. The Court asked Congress to deal with the issue, so I'm sure a solution will be forthcoming. (Wait, was that last part sarcasm?)You don't have to outrun the bear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,107 #4 May 8, 2015 quadeNow let's see what's done about it. Nothing, if McConnell has his way. From the NYT: The bulk phone records program traces back to October 2001. After the Sept. 11 attacks, President George W. Bush secretly authorized the N.S.A. to begin a group of surveillance and data-collection programs, without obeying statutory limits on government spying, for the purpose of hunting for terrorist cells. Over time, the legal basis for each component of that program, known as Stellarwind, evolved. In 2006, the administration persuaded a FISA court judge to issue an order approving the bulk phone records component, based on the idea that Section 215 could be interpreted as authorizing bulk collection. Many other judges serving on the FISA court have subsequently renewed the program at roughly 90-day intervals. It came to light in June 2013 as part of the leaks by the intelligence contractor Edward J. Snowden. Yet some still consider Bush to be a hero and Snowden a traitor.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 May 8, 2015 And once more McConnell and buddies show their true colors.http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/08/nsa_spying_is_illegal_then_lets_make_it_law_says_republican_leadership/ "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #6 May 8, 2015 kallend***Now let's see what's done about it. Nothing, if McConnell has his way. From the NYT: The bulk phone records program traces back to October 2001. After the Sept. 11 attacks, President George W. Bush secretly authorized the N.S.A. to begin a group of surveillance and data-collection programs, without obeying statutory limits on government spying, for the purpose of hunting for terrorist cells. Over time, the legal basis for each component of that program, known as Stellarwind, evolved. In 2006, the administration persuaded a FISA court judge to issue an order approving the bulk phone records component, based on the idea that Section 215 could be interpreted as authorizing bulk collection. Many other judges serving on the FISA court have subsequently renewed the program at roughly 90-day intervals. It came to light in June 2013 as part of the leaks by the intelligence contractor Edward J. Snowden. Yet some still consider Bush to be a hero and Snowden a traitor. Yup..... The Patriot Act and all of its little tendrils........ GFS then.... and doubled down GFS as time has passed. We told em so..... no one was listening Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #7 May 8, 2015 ryoder And once more McConnell and buddies show their true colors.http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/08/nsa_spying_is_illegal_then_lets_make_it_law_says_republican_leadership/ He looks like one of those aliens from sesame street who always seems preoccupied with our telecommunications... https://youtu.be/KTc3PsW5ghQ?t=142Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 May 11, 2015 Kudos to Senator Wyden! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/10/ron-wyden-nsa-surveillance_n_7251562.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #9 May 14, 2015 House votes 338 to 88 to end N.S.A.’s bulk phone data collection: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/14/us/house-votes-to-end-nsas-bulk-phone-data-collection.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites