Patriotism and Fox News

[lawrocket 3]

Depends on the weather, bro.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[kallend 2,117]

normiss

So it seems many of us here do in fact support "desecration" of the American flag so long as it is desecrated in a fashion that we agree with.

So the protesters stomping on it are fine too.

I wonder if more importanter stuff is happening.

Yes, the FBI admits incompetence in providing evidence for the prosecution at criminal trials, including capital murder trials.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

DanG

Sure it should be treated with respect, but that doesn't make it a crime to do otherwise. The protesters, no matter how stupid, had every right to disrespect the flag. Not agreeing with their actions doesn't make their actions illegal.

Stealing their flag is illegal. The wannabe media whore should have been arrested and charged. Of course, that would have made her an even bigger cause celeb for the moron class, so it's probably best she wasn't.

The protesters, on the other hand, did nothing illegal. They shouldn't be subjected to legal action. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be subjected to counter-protest or attempts to educate them.

Americans are like Pavlovian dogs. They hear freedom or flag and they start drooling and frothing at the mouth.

Like Dr. Oz who is under fire for supporting quack "science". He is "fighting back" by claiming his freedom under the first amendment is being attacked.

I can just see a whole bunch of fat fucks having their eyes glaze over like a Krispy Kreme donut nodding and going...yeah freedom fuck yeah, don't let them silence you.

[lawrocket 3]

normiss

So it seems many of us here do in fact support "desecration" of the American flag so long as it is desecrated in a fashion that we agree with.

So the protesters stomping on it are fine too.

I wonder if more importanter stuff is happening.

I wouldn't want to be stomped on. Thus my rule.

Attached are two photos. One is respectful and the other is not.



Ps - understanding that satire doesn't always come through clearly. Then again, nothing is "just satire."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[RonD1120 62]

And there was a counter protest.

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Woman-Detained-by-Valdosta-State-Police-After-Taking-Flag-from-Protesters-300551081.html

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[Driver1 0]

I treat disrespect for the US flag like the VSU students did, as I treat members of Westboro Baptist Church, for their actions.

Distasteful and disrespectful, but totally legal, unfortunately.

There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"!

[normiss 871]

"Distasteful and disrespectful, but totally legal, unfortunately. "

[RonD1120 62]

You are absolutely correct and I believe most folks understand the difference between legal and disrespectful behavior.

I have participated in 170 Patriot Guard Rider missions for veterans. In every instance where we strongly suspected that the WBC might show up we were reminded that we are a non-confrontational organization. The code is explicitly spelled out on the website. All PGR members know it and have accepted it.

So why do we have to be cautiously reminded of the code? Because, some assholes just piss us off.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[rehmwa 2]

DanG

Sure it should be treated with respect, but that doesn't make it a crime to do otherwise. The protesters, no matter how stupid, had every right to disrespect the flag. Not agreeing with their actions doesn't make their actions illegal.

Stealing their flag is illegal. The wannabe media whore should have been arrested and charged. Of course, that would have made her an even bigger cause celeb for the moron class, so it's probably best she wasn't.

The protesters, on the other hand, did nothing illegal. They shouldn't be subjected to legal action. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be subjected to counter-protest or attempts to educate them.

this is the right answer - It's frustrating that this isn't completely obvious to so many

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[rehmwa 2]

SkyDekker

Americans are like Pavlovian dogs. They hear freedom or flag and they start drooling and frothing at the mouth.

Like Dr. Oz who is under fire for supporting quack "science". He is "fighting back" by claiming his freedom under the first amendment is being attacked.

I can just see a whole bunch of fat fucks having their eyes glaze over like a Krispy Kreme donut nodding and going...yeah freedom fuck yeah, don't let them silence you.

bull shit - it's a fun hobby here to bunch "Americans" into some pissy little stereotype based on a few idiots just because it makes one quiver and smug.

They also seem to quiver and get excited about solar power, and whales - all of them. While eating too much McDonalds.

All you Canadians do this 100% of the time. Is it all the moose that does it? And not having any neighbors within 5 miles of each other?

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[lawrocket 3]

rehmwa

***Sure it should be treated with respect, but that doesn't make it a crime to do otherwise. The protesters, no matter how stupid, had every right to disrespect the flag. Not agreeing with their actions doesn't make their actions illegal.

Stealing their flag is illegal. The wannabe media whore should have been arrested and charged. Of course, that would have made her an even bigger cause celeb for the moron class, so it's probably best she wasn't.

The protesters, on the other hand, did nothing illegal. They shouldn't be subjected to legal action. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be subjected to counter-protest or attempts to educate them.

this is the right answer - It's frustrating that this isn't completely obvious to so many

Wholly concur

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rehmwa

***Americans are like Pavlovian dogs. They hear freedom or flag and they start drooling and frothing at the mouth.

Like Dr. Oz who is under fire for supporting quack "science". He is "fighting back" by claiming his freedom under the first amendment is being attacked.

I can just see a whole bunch of fat fucks having their eyes glaze over like a Krispy Kreme donut nodding and going...yeah freedom fuck yeah, don't let them silence you.

bull shit - it's a fun hobby here to bunch "Americans" into some pissy little stereotype based on a few idiots just because it makes one quiver and smug.

They also seem to quiver and get excited about solar power, and whales - all of them. While eating too much McDonalds.

All you Canadians do this 100% of the time. Is it all the moose that does it? And not having any neighbors within 5 miles of each other?

Meh, most people in Canada live in metropolitan areas. But then I wouldn't expect an American to understand any geography

[rehmwa 2]

SkyDekker

******Americans are like Pavlovian dogs. They hear freedom or flag and they start drooling and frothing at the mouth.

Like Dr. Oz who is under fire for supporting quack "science". He is "fighting back" by claiming his freedom under the first amendment is being attacked.

I can just see a whole bunch of fat fucks having their eyes glaze over like a Krispy Kreme donut nodding and going...yeah freedom fuck yeah, don't let them silence you.

bull shit - it's a fun hobby here to bunch "Americans" into some pissy little stereotype based on a few idiots just because it makes one quiver and smug.

They also seem to quiver and get excited about solar power, and whales - all of them. While eating too much McDonalds.

All you Canadians do this 100% of the time. Is it all the moose that does it? And not having any neighbors within 5 miles of each other?

Meh, most people in Canada live in metropolitan areas. But then I wouldn't expect an American to understand any geography

but......all the movies just show snow, and trees, and flannel

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[SkyDekker 1,465]

rehmwa

*********Americans are like Pavlovian dogs. They hear freedom or flag and they start drooling and frothing at the mouth.

Like Dr. Oz who is under fire for supporting quack "science". He is "fighting back" by claiming his freedom under the first amendment is being attacked.

I can just see a whole bunch of fat fucks having their eyes glaze over like a Krispy Kreme donut nodding and going...yeah freedom fuck yeah, don't let them silence you.

bull shit - it's a fun hobby here to bunch "Americans" into some pissy little stereotype based on a few idiots just because it makes one quiver and smug.

They also seem to quiver and get excited about solar power, and whales - all of them. While eating too much McDonalds.

All you Canadians do this 100% of the time. Is it all the moose that does it? And not having any neighbors within 5 miles of each other?

Meh, most people in Canada live in metropolitan areas. But then I wouldn't expect an American to understand any geography

but......all the movies just show snow, and trees, and flannel

And we have all three of those in metropolitan areas. Chance of flurries for tonight, im sure some will land on the trees while I grimace at my wife's flannel PJs.

[wmw999 2,560]

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So why do we have to be cautiously reminded of the code? Because, some assholes just piss us off.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[winsor 236]

jclalor

As repugnant as the act may be, desecrating the flag is protected speech. I think what she did while in uniform was much more disgraceful.

I thought not complying with the orders of LE was suffiecent enough to get you at least pepper sprayed in the south. I guess being a white female in Georgia you get cut a little slack. The police declined to press charges? WTF is that?



http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/19/air-force-veteran-detained-after-stopping-protesters-walking-american-flag

I like the approach attributed to Louisiana.

It seems that they view burning or desecrating a U.S. flag to be protected free speech.

They did, however, put a $5 limit on the fines that could be imposed on someone who beat the living shit out of a person burning or desecrating a U.S. flag.

Works for me.

[kallend 2,117]

DanG

The protesters, on the other hand, did nothing illegal. They shouldn't be subjected to legal action. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be subjected to counter-protest or attempts to educate them.

They seem to be better educated about the Constitution than the lady who stole their flag.

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[rushmc 23]

DanG

Sure it should be treated with respect, but that doesn't make it a crime to do otherwise. The protesters, no matter how stupid, had every right to disrespect the flag. Not agreeing with their actions doesn't make their actions illegal.

Stealing their flag is illegal. The wannabe media whore should have been arrested and charged. Of course, that would have made her an even bigger cause celeb for the moron class, so it's probably best she wasn't.

The protesters, on the other hand, did nothing illegal. They shouldn't be subjected to legal action. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be subjected to counter-protest or attempts to educate them.

there was a similar case to this one. On a campus in CA
the prof and a couple of her thug students took pro-posters from protestors
they also roughed up the students while in the act of theft

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

DanG

Sure it should be treated with respect, but that doesn't make it a crime to do otherwise. The protesters, no matter how stupid, had every right to disrespect the flag. Not agreeing with their actions doesn't make their actions illegal.

Stealing their flag is illegal. The wannabe media whore should have been arrested and charged. Of course, that would have made her an even bigger cause celeb for the moron class, so it's probably best she wasn't.

The protesters, on the other hand, did nothing illegal. They shouldn't be subjected to legal action. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be subjected to counter-protest or attempts to educate them.

Correct outcome?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/19/ucsbs-mireille-miller-young-sentenced-to-three-years-probation-for-stealing-from-and-attacking-pro-lifers/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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quade

***I've never quite understood why Muricans get all bent out of shape over a flag.

As demonstrated time and again, people confuse the thing, with the thing it stands for.

A symbol is simply that, nothing more, nothing less. It is NOT the country.

I understand the youthful indoctrination and brainwashing some people go through which confuses them on the matter, but they are confused none the less.

Try doing that to an Albanian flag in Kosovo and you won't walk away, I guarantee it.

mh
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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

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kallend

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The protesters, on the other hand, did nothing illegal. They shouldn't be subjected to legal action. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be subjected to counter-protest or attempts to educate them.

They seem to be better educated about the Constitution than the lady who stole their flag.

It appears that the metric being used here in SC is... if it gives them a stiffy...... its all good

[DanG 1]

Sounds correct to me.

BTW, I'm starting to see where you get your ideas about liberals, if you think that website is a good source of news/opinion.

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I didn’t know the Quakers ran conflict-resolution workshops, but that sounds perfect. She could use at least 100 hours with people who actually believe in something.

More importantly, now she can return to the faculty lounge as a brave martyr in the evil conservatives’ #WarOnWomen. There’s nothing more important to our moral, ethical, and intellectual betters on the left than to think of themselves as victims. Congratulations, Mireille!

- Dan G

[rushmc 23]

DanG

Sounds correct to me.

BTW, I'm starting to see where you get your ideas about liberals, if you think that website is a good source of news/opinion.

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I didn’t know the Quakers ran conflict-resolution workshops, but that sounds perfect. She could use at least 100 hours with people who actually believe in something.

More importantly, now she can return to the faculty lounge as a brave martyr in the evil conservatives’ #WarOnWomen. There’s nothing more important to our moral, ethical, and intellectual betters on the left than to think of themselves as victims. Congratulations, Mireille!

I just did a google search to find the story
It has been out there a while
I do not think I have ever been to that site before

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jclalor 12]

winsor

***As repugnant as the act may be, desecrating the flag is protected speech. I think what she did while in uniform was much more disgraceful.

I thought not complying with the orders of LE was suffiecent enough to get you at least pepper sprayed in the south. I guess being a white female in Georgia you get cut a little slack. The police declined to press charges? WTF is that?



http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/19/air-force-veteran-detained-after-stopping-protesters-walking-american-flag

I like the approach attributed to Louisiana.

It seems that they view burning or desecrating a U.S. flag to be protected free speech.

They did, however, put a $5 limit on the fines that could be imposed on someone who beat the living shit out of a person burning or desecrating a U.S. flag.

Works for me.

Could you possibly cite that?

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jclalor

******As repugnant as the act may be, desecrating the flag is protected speech. I think what she did while in uniform was much more disgraceful.

I thought not complying with the orders of LE was suffiecent enough to get you at least pepper sprayed in the south. I guess being a white female in Georgia you get cut a little slack. The police declined to press charges? WTF is that?



http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/04/19/air-force-veteran-detained-after-stopping-protesters-walking-american-flag

I like the approach attributed to Louisiana.

It seems that they view burning or desecrating a U.S. flag to be protected free speech.

They did, however, put a $5 limit on the fines that could be imposed on someone who beat the living shit out of a person burning or desecrating a U.S. flag.

Works for me.

Could you possibly cite that?

I found this dated 1990: http://articles.philly.com/1990-06-16/news/25913080_1_flag-burners-flag-burner-address-flag-desecration

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