StreetScooby 5 #1 April 3, 2015 Sean Penn is very anti-gun ownership, yet he makes movies heralding the use of guns. I'd be thrilled if Hollywood actually stepped up and stopped making movies about guns. What am I missing here? Cognitive dissonance is the phrase that comes to mind.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 April 3, 2015 StreetScoobySean Penn is very anti-gun ownership, yet he makes movies heralding the use of guns. I'd be thrilled if Hollywood actually stepped up and stopped making movies about guns. What am I missing here? Cognitive dissonance is the phrase that comes to mind. I can see Richard Dean Anderson as having anti-gun legitimacy. Though I never watched anything else he was in, Macgyver had a distaste for guns and solved problems without them. But I haven't ever heard of him getting involved one way or another... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Driver1 0 #3 April 3, 2015 You can throw Liam Neeson in that group. And I think, Sylvester Stallone too... Buncha fucking hypocrites, going the anti-gun route but making their millions in movies with gun violence.There will be no addressing the customers as "Bitches", "Morons" or "Retards"! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #4 April 3, 2015 It's the liberal feel good way. I fucking hate guns, make millions of them. Save the earth, hop on private jets and blast off to some town a hour away every other week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #5 April 3, 2015 Driver1You can throw Liam Neeson in that group. And I think, Sylvester Stallone too... Buncha fucking hypocrites, going the anti-gun route but making their millions in movies with gun violence. It's that nobody ELSE should have them My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #6 April 3, 2015 Having a hard time separating fantasy from reality?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #7 April 4, 2015 Defend them yes.. Predictable again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #8 April 4, 2015 And then there are crime movies in general. Surely the actors involved can't be promoting crime? Similarly for disaster movies, or movies about evil conspiracies, or movies showing smoking. But yeah there is the issue of to what degree one puts one's money where one's mouth is, to what degree personal beliefs get pushed aside when there's money to be made. (And with The Gunman getting 5.6 on IMDB and 13% on Rotten Tomatoes... I suppose it isn't exactly a victory for Sean Penn. Guns don't kill movies; people kill movies.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #9 April 4, 2015 pchapman Guns don't kill movies; people kill movies. This discussion made me think of this amusing scene from the latest episode of "Better Call Saul": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLsjmwt_KVw"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #10 April 4, 2015 cvfd1399Defend them yes.. Predictable again. Based on your posting history, it's no surprise that you have a hard time telling fantasy from reality.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 April 4, 2015 kallend ***Defend them yes.. Predictable again. Based on your posting history, it's no surprise that you have a hard time telling fantasy from reality. Amen to that.... Careful though next thing you know he will be reporting anyone who does not goose step along with him and the other ill named "conservatives" around here. Shades of PhillyKev all over.. watchlists...... that takes the cake... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 April 4, 2015 StreetScoobySean Penn is very anti-gun ownership, yet he makes movies heralding the use of guns. I'd be thrilled if Hollywood actually stepped up and stopped making movies about guns. What am I missing here? Cognitive dissonance is the phrase that comes to mind. Have you seen the movie yet? Ya know, not ALL movies that have gun violence condone gun violence. Take for example the film, "God Bless America." It's about a guy who, with a young companion, goes on a killing spree. So that sounds pretty f'in' violent, but the entire point is, at the end of it he gets his comeuppance. Essentially, live by the gun, DIE by the gun. Ever see, "The Departed"? In fact, that is almost always the point of every crime story; live a violent life and you'll be held accountable for it. There are a few notable exceptions, but it is the general rule.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #13 April 4, 2015 Reality is these list of actors (most on that list are action stars, or have acted with weapons) are violently anti-gun, but will still accept money to act in moves that show them in a violent way which will end up being seen by impressionable youth who fall into the romance that gun violence is cool, and a real way of life. Jessica Alba – Actor Krista Allen – Actor Suzy Amis – Actor Louis Anderson – Comedian Richard Dean Anderson – Actor Maya Angelou – Poet David Arquette – Actor Ed Asner – Actor Alec Baldwin – Actor Bob Barker – TV Personality Carol Bayer Sager – Composer Drew Barrymore – Actor Kevin Bacon – Actor Lauren Bacall – Actor* Sarah Ban Breathnach – Writer William Baldwin – Actor Candice Bergen – Actor Richard Belzer – Actor Tony Bennett – Singer Beyonce – Singer Jon Bon Jovi – Singer Peter Bogdonovich – Director Peter Bonerz – Actor Albert Brooks – Actor Beau Bridges – Actor Benjamin Bratt – Actor Bonnie Bruckheimer – Movie Producer Christie Brinkley – Model Dr. Joyce Brothers – Psychologist/Author James Brolin – Actor James Brooks – TV Producer Mel Brooks – Actor/Director Betty Buckley – Actor Ellen Burstyn – Actor Steve Buscemi – Actor David Canary – Actor Kate Capshaw – Actor Kim Cattrall – Actor Josh Charles – Actor Robert Chartloff – Producer Stockard Channing – Actor Terri Clark – Singer George Clooney – Actor Jennifer Connelly – Actor Judy Collins – Singer Kevin Costner – Actor Sean Connery – Actor Sheryl Crow – Singer Billy Crystal – Actor Julie Cypher – Director Arlene Dahl – Actor Clive Davis – Writer Linda Dano – Actor Matt Damon – Actor Pam Dawber – Actor Patrika Darbo – Actor Stuart Damon – Actor Ellen Degeneres – Actor Gavin de Becker – Writer Rebecca DeMornay – Actor Danny DeVito – Actor Michael Douglas – Actor Phil Donahue – Talk Show Host Richard Donner – Director Fran Drescher – Actor Richard Dreyfus – Actor David Duchovny – Actor Sandy Duncan – Actor Christine Ebersole – Actor Kenneth “Babyface” Edmonds – Singer Missy Elliott – Singer Gloria Estefan – Singer Melissa Etheridge – Singer Mia Farrow – Actor Mike Farrell – Actor Carrie Fisher – Actor Sally Field – Actor Doug Flutie – NFL player Fannie Flagg – Actor Jane Fonda – Actor Jodie Foster – Actor Rick Fox – NBA Player Andy Garcia – Actor Art Garfunkel – Singer Geraldo – TV personality Richard Gere – Actor Kathie Lee Gifford – TV personality Paul Glaser – TV director Brad Gooch – Writer Elliott Gould – Actor Louis Gossett, Jr. – Actor Michael Gross – Actor Nancy Lee Grahn – Actor Bryant Gumbel – TV Personality Deidra Hall – Actor Ethan Hawke – Actor Mariette Hartley – Actor Mark Harmon – Actor Anne Heche – Actor Howard Hesseman – Actor Marilu Henner – Actor Dustin Hoffman – Actor Hal Holbrook – Actor* Helen Hunt – Actor Francesca James – TV Producer Norman Jewison – Director Lainie Kazan – Actor Richard Karn – Actor Jeffrey Katzenberg – Producer Barry Kemp – TV Producer David E. Kelley – TV Producer Diane Keaton – Actor Margaret Kemp – Interior Designer Chaka Khan – Singer Stephen King – Author (Added by 2ACheck) Kevin Kline – Actor Michael E. Knight – Actor Jonathan Kozol – Writer Lenny Kravits – Singer Lisa Kudrow – Actor Wally Kurth – Actor Christine Lahti – Actor k.d. lang – Singer Ricki Lake – TV personality Denis Leary – Actor John Leguizamo – Actor Norman Lear – TV Producer Spike Lee – Director Hal Linden – Actor Tara Lipinski – Former Olympian Keyshawn Johnson – NFL player Rob Lowe – Actor Amanda Marshall – Singer Barry Manilow – Singer Camryn Manheim – Actor Howie Mandel – Actor Kyle MacLachlan – Actor Madonna – Singer Marla Maples – Actor Marsha Mason – Actor* Mase – Singer Penny Marshall – Director Prema Mathai-Davis – YWCA Official John McDaniel – Musician John McEnroe – Athlete Brian McKnight – Musician Natalie Merchant – Singer Bette Midler – Singer Mary Tyler Moore – Actor Michael Moore – Film Maker Mike Myers – Actor Kathy Najimy – Actor Jack Nicholson – Actor Leonard Nimoy – Actor Mike Nichols – Director Stephen Nichols – Actor Rosie O’Donnell – Actor/Talk Show Host Jennifer O’Neill – Actor Julia Ormond – Actor Jane Pauley – TV Personality Sarah Jessica Parker – Actor Mandy Patinkin – Actor Richard North Patterson – Writer Rhea Perlman – Actor Michelle Pfieffer – Actor Aidan Quinn – Actor Colin Quinn – Actor Dennis Quaid – Actor Elizabeth Bracco Quinn – Actor Bonnie Raitt – Singer Debbie Reynolds – Actor Mary Lou Retton – Former Olympian Paul Reiser – Actor Peter Reckell – Actor Rob Reiner – Actor/Director Robert Redford – Actor/Director Anne Rice – Writer Cathy Rigby – Actor Julia Roberts – Actor Marc Rosen – TV Producer Tim Robbins – Actor Tim Roth – Actor Renee Russo – Actor Robin Ruzan – Wife of Mike Myers Meg Ryan – Actor Susan Sarandon – Actor Jerry Seinfeld – Actor Kyra Sedgwick – Actor Martin Sheen – Actor Russell Simmons – Record Producer Neil Simon – Playwright* Louise Sorel – Actor Mira Sorvino – Actor Rena Sofer – Actor Britney Spears – Singer Bruce Springsteen – Singer Kevin Spirtas – Actor Barbra Streisand – Singer David Steinberg – Director Sylvester Stallone – Actor Harry Dean Stanton – Actor Meryl Streep – Actor Patrick Stewart – Actor Sharon Stone – Actor Sting – Singer Trudie Styler – Actor Jonathan Taylor Thomas – Actor The Temptations – Pop Group Vinny Testaverde – NFL player Marlo Thomas – Actor* Uma Thurman – Actor Steve Tisch – Producer Mike Torrez – Former Baseball player Shania Twain – Singer Dick Van Dyke – Actoe Eli Wallach – Actor* Harvey Weinstein – Producer Jann Wenner – Publisher Sigourney Weaver – Actor Victor Webster – Actor Andy Williams – Singer* Kelli Williams – Actor Henry Winkler – Actor Oprah Winfrey – Entertainer Rita Wilson – Actor Vanessa Williams – Singer Herman Wouk – Author Joanne Woodward – Actor* Peter Yarrow – Singer Catherine Zeta-Jones – Actor Ahmet Zappa -Actor Diva Zappa -Actor Dweezil Zappa – Musician Gail Zappa - Moon Zappa -Actor Jennifer Aniston – Actor Elizabeth Banks – Actor Jason Bateman – Actor Kristen Bell—Actor Steve Carrell – Actor Courtney Cox – Actor Ellen DeGeneres – Actor Zooey Deschanel – Actor Cameron Diaz – Actor Peter Dinklage – Actor Will Ferrell – Actor Jamie Fox – Actor Jennifer Garner – Actor Selena Gomez – Actor Carla Gugino – Actor Jon Hamm – Actor Kate Hudson – Actor John Legend – Actor Julia Louis-Dreyfus – Actor Debra Messing – Actor Julianne Moore – Actor Julianne Moore – Actor Conan O’Brien – Actor Gwyneth Paltrow – Actor Busy Phillips – Actor Amy Poller – Actor Jeremy Renner – Actor Chris Rock – Actor Paul Rudd – Actor Mark Ruffalo – Actor Brooke Shields – Actor Sarah Silverman – Actor John Slattery – Actor Michelle Williams – Actor Reese Witherspoon – Actor If you on this list and you continue to make movies where you shoot hold, or carry guns your a hypocrite douche. 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kallend 2,146 #14 April 4, 2015 Still having a hard time separating fantasy from reality?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #15 April 4, 2015 QuoteStill having a hard time separating fantasy from reality? Its ok John if you dont have anything useful to say to defend your position, its completely acceptable to take a few hours and come up with one. As is still stands my position is as the post above, and you know that there is not chance in hell of defending your liberal buddies out of what they are doing. Hell drop a bush did____ anything other than posting that same reply, it looks horrible on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #16 April 4, 2015 cvfd1399QuoteStill having a hard time separating fantasy from reality? Its ok John if you dont have anything useful to say to defend your position, its completely acceptable to take a few hours and come up with one. As is still stands my position is as the post above, and you know that there is not chance in hell of defending your liberal buddies out of what they are doing. Hell drop a bush did____ anything other than posting that same reply, it looks horrible on you. Still having a hard time separating fantasy from reality?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #17 April 4, 2015 kallend***QuoteStill having a hard time separating fantasy from reality? Its ok John if you dont have anything useful to say to defend your position, its completely acceptable to take a few hours and come up with one. As is still stands my position is as the post above, and you know that there is not chance in hell of defending your liberal buddies out of what they are doing. Hell drop a bush did____ anything other than posting that same reply, it looks horrible on you. Still having a hard time separating fantasy from reality? And you, John, seem to be stuck in a loop of deliberately missing the spirit of the argument in order to degrade and belittle, . . . Again.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #18 April 4, 2015 No Kallend you are just using a sentence over and over again to make a subtle attack on my intelligence. Just enough to fly under the moderators radar which might I add is on full squelch for you liberals, but obvious as fuck for everyone. I do hope you know that, and are not sitting in some dimly lit office somewhere laughing manically like your getting one over on anyone. If thats the way you wish to defend your position....well ok...we know you ran out of an argument then. Which if you have forgotten by the way was about liberal movie stars soaking up money made from gun movies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #19 April 4, 2015 Your copied and pasted list if pretty padded with people who have never held a gun in a film. Where'd you get the list?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #20 April 4, 2015 Google now hard is that, it's a list of anti gun actors. I already stated not all of them did hold a gun in a movie, I also indicated they were anti gun actors. You drinking today or what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #21 April 4, 2015 cvfd1399Google now hard is that, it's a list of anti gun actors. No. It's a list of celebrities, not all of which are even actors, which is why I knew from the get go your list was simply bull shit copy and paste. If you're going to make some sort of claim about people by copying and pasting a list, you should probably read it first to see if it even applies to the argument you're attempting to make.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #22 April 4, 2015 turtlespeed******QuoteStill having a hard time separating fantasy from reality? Its ok John if you dont have anything useful to say to defend your position, its completely acceptable to take a few hours and come up with one. As is still stands my position is as the post above, and you know that there is not chance in hell of defending your liberal buddies out of what they are doing. Hell drop a bush did____ anything other than posting that same reply, it looks horrible on you. Still having a hard time separating fantasy from reality? And you, John, seem to be stuck in a loop of deliberately missing the spirit of the argument in order to degrade and belittle, . . . Again. There's reality, and then there's make-believe. Movies are make-believe. Harrison Ford isn't really Han Solo, and I doubt Emma Watson really believes in magic spells. Responding to an irrelevant cut-and-paste list is just a waste of time. That's all there is to it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #23 April 4, 2015 I for one put my money where my mouth is. I will no longer watch a film Liam Neeson is in (I gave up on Sean Penn back during the Gulf War). Lately I have decided not to watch any movies which have guns in the movie poster. And I do own some firearms. I once owned what a panty-waisted bleeding heart might classify as an "arsenal", but I sold off most of them years ago to feed my skydiving habit. Lately I'm wishing I'd held onto my AR-15 because it was not ATF-recorded... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #24 April 4, 2015 QuoteNo. It's a list of celebrities, not all of which are even actors, which is why I knew from the get go your list was simply bull shit copy and paste. 187 out of the ~250 names on that list are actors. It was a fucking reference, not gospel. Im sorry you cant read and filter things out of a list. QuoteIf you're going to make some sort of claim about people by copying and pasting a list, you should probably read it first to see if it even applies to the argument you're attempting to make. There is no website like Mr.Skin to search if all these actors have been in a movie with a gun. With that being said this is a list of anti gun actors, and if they have been in an action move, and are on this list they are a hypocrite. I ALREADY stated this list was not filtered. Im once again sorry you cant use your own brain to see the point I was trying to make, and taking everything literally as if this was a fucking exam paper. Let me break it down for you again. -List contains actors -They are all anti gun -If they appeared in a movie using guns, or supporting gun violence -They are hypocrites. Any further replies about the list containing persons other than actors, or actors in the list that have not used guns will be ignored. I have shown enough for those of you that cant understand it was an example for your research of hypocrisy, not some all inclusive list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 April 4, 2015 quade ***Google now hard is that, it's a list of anti gun actors. No. It's a list of celebrities, not all of which are even actors, which is why I knew from the get go your list was simply bull shit copy and paste. If you're going to make some sort of claim about people by copying and pasting a list, you should probably read it first to see if it even applies to the argument you're attempting to make. I liked the idea of Maya Angelou as action hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
