jclalor 12 #1 March 24, 2015 I wonder how the Right will reconcile his birthplace and the politicss of his father? http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/03/21/birther-hypocrisy-right-wing-has-no-problem-with-canadian-born-senator-ted-cruz-running-for-president/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #2 March 24, 2015 Well as long as both parents were citizens he's considered a citizen. Both his parents were citizens, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #3 March 24, 2015 billvonWell as long as both parents were citizens he's considered a citizen. Both his parents were citizens, right? I was under the impression than many on the right, while acknowledging that obama was a US citizen, that because he was "born" in Kenya he was ineligible for POTUS. I am not claiming Ted is ineligible for the WH, it's just interesting what huge hypocrites the mainstream Right has become. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #4 March 24, 2015 Not according to the media, maybe not. “Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.” "It would thus appear that for Senator Cruz to qualify as a natural-born citizen under this paragraph, (a) both of his parents would need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth; and (b) one of the parents had a residence in the US at the time of birth." His father was not a citizen at the time of Cruz' birth. While is mother was clearly a US citizen at the time, she did not hold a residence in the USA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #5 March 24, 2015 DSENot according to the media, maybe not. “Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.” "It would thus appear that for Senator Cruz to qualify as a natural-born citizen under this paragraph, (a) both of his parents would need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth; and (b) one of the parents had a residence in the US at the time of birth." His father was not a citizen at the time of Cruz' birth. While is mother was clearly a US citizen at the time, she did not hold a residence in the USA. I'm thinking that the GOP and FOX news just may hold Cruz to a different level of accountability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grimmie 186 #6 March 24, 2015 jclalor***Not according to the media, maybe not. “Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.” "It would thus appear that for Senator Cruz to qualify as a natural-born citizen under this paragraph, (a) both of his parents would need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth; and (b) one of the parents had a residence in the US at the time of birth." His father was not a citizen at the time of Cruz' birth. While is mother was clearly a US citizen at the time, she did not hold a residence in the USA. I'm thinking that the GOP and FOX news just may hold Cruz to a different level of accountability. I'm thinking that he is such an idiot, it isn't going to matter much past next month where he was born. http://i.imgur.com/wprUtSC.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 March 24, 2015 grimmie I'm thinking that he is such an idiot, it isn't going to matter much past next month where he was born. http://i.imgur.com/wprUtSC.jpg "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #8 March 24, 2015 Yup. Can't see him winning a nomination somehow.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #9 March 24, 2015 Rushmc, Turtlespeed, Masterrigger. That's three votes already! grimmie******Not according to the media, maybe not. “Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.” "It would thus appear that for Senator Cruz to qualify as a natural-born citizen under this paragraph, (a) both of his parents would need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth; and (b) one of the parents had a residence in the US at the time of birth." His father was not a citizen at the time of Cruz' birth. While is mother was clearly a US citizen at the time, she did not hold a residence in the USA. I'm thinking that the GOP and FOX news just may hold Cruz to a different level of accountability. I'm thinking that he is such an idiot, it isn't going to matter much past next month where he was born. http://i.imgur.com/wprUtSC.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #10 March 24, 2015 DSE “Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.” "It would thus appear that for Senator Cruz to qualify as a natural-born citizen under this paragraph, (a) both of his parents would need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth; and (b) one of the parents had a residence in the US at the time of birth." Interesting. And from a quick Google search, his father fought alongside Fidel Castro (by his own admission.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #11 March 24, 2015 Wherever you got that paragraph left out the following two: 2. Child of U.S. Citizen Parent and U.S. National: A child born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions acquires citizenship at birth if at the time of birth: •One parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is a U.S. national; and •The U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of at least one year. 3. Child of U.S. Citizen Parent and Foreign National Parent A child born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions acquires citizenship at birth if at the time of birth: •One parent is a foreign national and the other parent is a U.S. citizen; and •The U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States for at least 5 years, including at least 2 years after 14 years of age. ______________________ So, he is a citizen under one of those, depending on whether his father was considered a US national or a foreign national. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #12 March 24, 2015 Post # 11 is correct. Ted's mother's US citizenship plus her then-prior US residence gave the little sumbitch US citizenship at birth. Any legal challenges to his being qualified to be President on the basis of original citizenship will fail. P.s. so even if Obama had been born in Kenya it still would have been irrelevant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #13 March 24, 2015 And, technology makes it possible to create whatever documents are needed to win.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #14 March 24, 2015 We embedded our own Syrup-Sucking Manchurian Canadian Candidate. This is deliciously priceless. Eh, Rich? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #15 March 24, 2015 RonD1120And, technology makes it possible to create whatever documents are needed to win. I would never dream of confiscating your tin foil hat, Ronnie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #16 March 24, 2015 mpohl Rushmc, Turtlespeed, Masterrigger. That's three votes already! *********Not according to the media, maybe not. “Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.” "It would thus appear that for Senator Cruz to qualify as a natural-born citizen under this paragraph, (a) both of his parents would need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth; and (b) one of the parents had a residence in the US at the time of birth." His father was not a citizen at the time of Cruz' birth. While is mother was clearly a US citizen at the time, she did not hold a residence in the USA. I'm thinking that the GOP and FOX news just may hold Cruz to a different level of accountability. I'm thinking that he is such an idiot, it isn't going to matter much past next month where he was born. http://i.imgur.com/wprUtSC.jpg Silly rabbit, I don't want Cruz as president anymore than I want Biden. I actually prefer a democrat as potus, with the house and senate conservative. That way less damage is done by both parties. So likely, I will vote democratic for president and republican, or libertarian for the senate race. But in my state, my one vote means little. I'll still exercise my right to vote.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #17 March 24, 2015 You have yours and I have mine. It is what it is. Somehow we have to make it work.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #18 March 24, 2015 The religiously insane hopefully have a less than zero chance of a nomination, much less a serious run. That dude is crazy scary! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #19 March 24, 2015 What every Christian, even the CINOs, votes for him? That ought to keep you awake for a few nights.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #20 March 24, 2015 mpohl Rushmc, Turtlespeed, Masterrigger. That's three votes already! *********Not according to the media, maybe not. “Birth Abroad to Two U.S. Citizen Parents in Wedlock A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.” "It would thus appear that for Senator Cruz to qualify as a natural-born citizen under this paragraph, (a) both of his parents would need to be U.S. citizens at the time of birth; and (b) one of the parents had a residence in the US at the time of birth." His father was not a citizen at the time of Cruz' birth. While is mother was clearly a US citizen at the time, she did not hold a residence in the USA. I'm thinking that the GOP and FOX news just may hold Cruz to a different level of accountability. I'm thinking that he is such an idiot, it isn't going to matter much past next month where he was born. http://i.imgur.com/wprUtSC.jpg Brrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaappp! Wrong answer hot-shot! I'll certainly vote for someone but not Cruz! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #21 March 24, 2015 I'll send you $20 you can throw in the plate if he gets anywhere near a nomination. He won't. Because women hate him and his ilk and that alone should more than cover the point spread. You're gonna have to do better than this type Ron. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdkalou 0 #22 March 24, 2015 Maybe and "American" not born in "America" wouldn't be such a bad idea.....................................look at the luck we have had for the past 25 years........................just saying, sometimes it's good to step outside the box.........................just saying.............................. Now ladies and gentlemen, you may begin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #23 March 24, 2015 uhhh....the past 8??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #24 March 24, 2015 Why do women hate him? Don't forget, I'm a Libertarian. ETA: Disregard the question. I just Googled it. That is why the Republican Party sucks. I disavowed affiliation with them years ago.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #25 March 24, 2015 He wants to ban abortion, even in cases of rape or incest. His support for "personhood" legislation that could limit women's rights and access to medical care. His desire to repeal the ACA (bear in mind how much added medical coverage was added for women). He supported the Hobby Lobby birth control ruling. He opposes equal pay for women legislation. Basically, if you don't have a vagina, you should never be in a position to propose, vote, or make legislation governing them IMO. If you don't think women voters can make a big enough difference, you weren't paying attention to the last two elections. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites