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[billvon 3,132]

>I was talking with my daughter today. She's in her second year. In her
>Oceanography class AGW is taught as fact.

She could move to Florida:
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SCOTT’S CLIMATE CHANGE GAG ORDER CLAIMS A VICTIM

DEP Employee Reprimanded, Suspended and Ordered to Get Mental Exam

Posted on Mar 18, 2015
PEER

Washington, DC — A Florida state employee is in hot water for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). In response, his superiors at the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) issued him a letter of reprimand, ordered him to take two days leave and then told him not to return until he had medical clearance of his fitness for duty.

Barton Bibler is a long-time DEP employee who now serves as Land Management Plan Coordinator in its Division of State Lands. He attended a Florida Coastal Managers Forum on February 27, 2015 at which climate change and sea-level rise were discussed among a mix of public attendees. Mr. Bibler’s official notes on this meeting reflected all of that discussion. He was directed to remove any hot button issues, especially explicit references to climate change, and then was given a letter of reprimand for supposedly misrepresenting that the “official meeting agenda included climate change.”

As he was given the reprimand on March 9th, Mr. Bibler was told to not return to work for two days which would be charged against his personal leave time. Two days later he received a “Medical Release Form” requiring that his doctor supply the DEP with an evaluation of unspecified “medical condition and behavior” issues before being allowed to return to work.

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>I was talking with my daughter today. She's in her second year. In her
>Oceanography class AGW is taught as fact.

She could move to Florida:
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SCOTT’S CLIMATE CHANGE GAG ORDER CLAIMS A VICTIM

DEP Employee Reprimanded, Suspended and Ordered to Get Mental Exam

Posted on Mar 18, 2015
PEER

Washington, DC — A Florida state employee is in hot water for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). In response, his superiors at the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) issued him a letter of reprimand, ordered him to take two days leave and then told him not to return until he had medical clearance of his fitness for duty.

Barton Bibler is a long-time DEP employee who now serves as Land Management Plan Coordinator in its Division of State Lands. He attended a Florida Coastal Managers Forum on February 27, 2015 at which climate change and sea-level rise were discussed among a mix of public attendees. Mr. Bibler’s official notes on this meeting reflected all of that discussion. He was directed to remove any hot button issues, especially explicit references to climate change, and then was given a letter of reprimand for supposedly misrepresenting that the “official meeting agenda included climate change.”

As he was given the reprimand on March 9th, Mr. Bibler was told to not return to work for two days which would be charged against his personal leave time. Two days later he received a “Medical Release Form” requiring that his doctor supply the DEP with an evaluation of unspecified “medical condition and behavior” issues before being allowed to return to work.

Pretty vague
with no links of course but then you are allowed

any way
for doing what exactly?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,132]

>for doing what exactly?

" . . . for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). "

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>for doing what exactly?

" . . . for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). "

Sorry

I bet there is more to this.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

rushmc

***>for doing what exactly?

" . . . for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). "

Sorry

I bet there is more to this.

More like what?

And all you have to do is google his name and it pops right up.

First hit:

http://postonpolitics.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/03/18/employees-group-florida-environmental-manager-was-punished-for-uttering-climate-change/

The order for a medical eval before being able to return to work is probably the most disturbing to me.

What "medical deficiency" do they think prompted this?

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[billvon 3,132]

>What "medical deficiency" do they think prompted this?

Crimethink.

[jakee 1,610]

rushmc

***>for doing what exactly?

" . . . for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). "

Sorry

I bet there is more to this.

Question: if it was an NRA member who discussed 2nd amendment rights who was ordered to undergo a psychiatric assessment before returning to work would you think there was 'more to it' and he might be crazy or that he was being victimised by the department?

In fairness, that question can go to both sides.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

jakee

******>for doing what exactly?

" . . . for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). "

Sorry

I bet there is more to this.

Question: if it was an NRA member who discussed 2nd amendment rights who was ordered to undergo a psychiatric assessment before returning to work would you think there was 'more to it' and he might be crazy or that he was being victimised by the department?

In fairness, that question can go to both sides.

All I am saying is this seems as though something about this story is still missing

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,610]

rushmc

*********>for doing what exactly?

" . . . for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). "

Sorry

I bet there is more to this.

Question: if it was an NRA member who discussed 2nd amendment rights who was ordered to undergo a psychiatric assessment before returning to work would you think there was 'more to it' and he might be crazy or that he was being victimised by the department?

In fairness, that question can go to both sides.

All I am saying is this seems as though something about this story is still missing

And, if he was a pro gunner talking about 2nd amendment rights, would that still be all you were saying?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

jakee

************>for doing what exactly?

" . . . for speaking about climate change at an official meeting and keeping notes of that discussion in official minutes, according to a complaint filed today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER). "

Sorry

I bet there is more to this.

Question: if it was an NRA member who discussed 2nd amendment rights who was ordered to undergo a psychiatric assessment before returning to work would you think there was 'more to it' and he might be crazy or that he was being victimised by the department?

In fairness, that question can go to both sides.

All I am saying is this seems as though something about this story is still missing

And, if he was a pro gunner talking about 2nd amendment rights, would that still be all you were saying?

JFC
Now I hope you DO get your fucking shoes wet

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,132]

>And, if he was a pro gunner talking about 2nd amendment rights, would that
>still be all you were saying?

Allow me -

"Cleueless libs hate guns so much that they cant stand when people talk intelligently about them. They hate Free Speech, because they cant control what peole say."

[rushmc 23]

billvon

>And, if he was a pro gunner talking about 2nd amendment rights, would that
>still be all you were saying?

Allow me -

"Cleueless libs hate guns so much that they cant stand when people talk intelligently about them. They hate Free Speech, because they cant control what peole say."

You post provides the very reason I question whether we know the whole story yet

this sure prove YOU cant be trusted

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

This is all I was looking for Bill
sheesh
Now, if true? I agree with but, it still seems as there may be more to come out

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It was about the words “climate change,” he said. Not the science. Not what Florida’s doing about it. Just the words. He had put them into a report. Then refused to take them out when he was told to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/03/20/fla-official-says-he-was-punished-for-using-climate-change-in-report/

So far we have ONE side of the story
But as I said, if it is true he got into trouble for mearly using the words? I agree with you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Of course this kind of absolute bs is just fine ......... right?

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“It was a surprise given what a clear threat climate change is to coral reefs and also to the state of Florida in general,” she said.

Clear threat my ass
People who believe this are the clear threat

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,610]

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Now I hope you DO get your fucking shoes wet

You do know that every time you try and avoid giving an answer you think might make you look bad, your evasion ends up looking a heck of a lot worse, right?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[rushmc 23]

jakee

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Now I hope you DO get your fucking shoes wet

You do know that every time you try and avoid giving an answer you think might make you look bad, your evasion ends up looking a heck of a lot worse, right?

I havent avoided shit
I tried to have a conversation with you and YOU wanted a pissing contest
Go change your shoes

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jakee 1,610]

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I tried to have a conversation with you

I don't know what that word means where you come from, but in the rest of the english speaking world saying the same thing over and over again then throwing a hissy fit because you're being asked a simple question isn't the same as trying to have a conversation.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[lawrocket 3]

Flame wars used to be awesome. But after ten years on here.xx

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[kallend 2,175]

lawrocket

Flame wars used to be awesome. But after ten years on here.xx

Has SC jumped the shark?

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[quade 4]

kallend

***Flame wars used to be awesome. But after ten years on here.xx

Has SC jumped the shark?

I've jumped the shark many, many times. So has billvon. So, maybe by the transitive property, yes.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Florida better hope they don't need any FEMA funding in the future...

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20150322_FEMA_to_deny_funds_to_warming_deniers.html

[rushmc 23]

SkyDekker

Florida better hope they don't need any FEMA funding in the future...

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20150322_FEMA_to_deny_funds_to_warming_deniers.html

More Obama polical bs

You must like the thought police?

Never mind

I know you do

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

A hero of yours I bet?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/23/no-wonder-they-call-him-moonbeam-california-governor-jerry-brown-claims-global-warming-causes-extreme-cold/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

another prediction gone bad?

Oh well
Just ignore it

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/22/so-far-2015-seems-to-be-a-bad-year-for-the-severe-weather-caused-by-climate-change-meme/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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You must like the thought police?

Ironic considering you defend laws and regulations that specifically forbid people to even mention certain things.

Whether it relates to Climate change or doctors asking about guns.

All this speak is forbidden, because of what the thought behind it might be.

But then you attack me saying I must like the thought police.

You really have absolutely no clue do you?