jclalor 12 #26 February 18, 2015 Andy9o8QuoteThe Ayatollah's death threat against Salman Rushdie is exactly the same sort of thug tactic. Scare people into silence. I agree it was a thug tactic by Ayatollah Khomeini to scare people into silence. BUT. Here's the back-story that those who both haven't read The Satanic Verses (I have) or know the history of Khomeini (I watched it on the news at the time) don't realize: Khomeini's fatwa had nothing to do with Islam, at least its actual reason doesn't. You see, in The Satanic Verses, not only does Rushdie insult Mohammed (which he does, by portraying him as corrupt and decadent), he also insults Khomeni, by portraying him, too, as a greedy, corrupt and blasphemously self-serving character in the book. So next time you hear someone refer to Khomeni's fatwa as being because Rushdie insulted Mohammed or Islam, correct them: the fatwa was actually Khomeni's way of personally "reaching out and touching" Rushdie in retaliation for daring to publicly speak aloud that the corrupt Emperor (Khomeni) had no clothes. It had nothing to do with Islam - it was personal. The insult to Mohammed was just the cover. Besides the book being insulting to Khomeini, the title alone was enough to drive a large number of Muslims nuts. "Satanic Verses" is a lot more than the name of a book. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #27 February 18, 2015 Quote I notice you won't even acknowledge that isil didn't exist until just before Benghazi. Inaction, unwillingness to admit Islamic terrorism, and inaction has let them grow. Benghazi didn't cause anything. Benghazi was nothing more than a symptom of the collapse of the Arab Spring. One event in a region wide descent into widespread violence. I don't think you'll find a person outside of the USA who thinks Benghazi was a turning point for anything. QuoteBlaming bush is like saying that it's carters fault that Iran took hostages. Yeah, because Carter invaded Iran, removed the government and left a huge power vacuum. Yeah.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #28 February 18, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteSo far, these thugs don't seem to be part of any organized group. They are just "radicals" who decide that people who insult Islam need to be killed. ISIL is pretty organized. Not sure why you wouldn think it isn't. I don't disagree that ISIL is pretty well organized. Please show me any definite connection between this thug and ISIL. Not the FB post where he swore allegiance to them, but any training or support that he received. He was a gang member and small time drug dealer. He spent time in both jail and prison, and "found" radical Islam in prison. A thug."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #29 February 18, 2015 masterblaster72 First this Then this ...and now this I have a colleague at work who said after the Charlie Hebdo incident that the "only solution is to hug a Muslim." I like his kind-hearted intentions but I think he's in the minority. As long as these incidents continue, Europe will become less tolerant of its guests from the east. Not a sustainable a sustainable situation in the long term and doesn't bode well for the future. And when you really need a kidney or a liver: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-might-be-harvesting-organs-iraqi-diplomat-says/ And yes, the irony of using an Iraqi as an intelligence source does not escape me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #30 February 18, 2015 Quick! Everyone eat pork so they won't harvest your organs. As for blame, there's plenty to spread around. Training and weapons unfortunately largely came from the CIA and the military unfortunately. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #31 February 18, 2015 Bolas Quick! Everyone eat pork so they won't harvest your organs. "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 February 18, 2015 SkyDekkerQuoteYes, yes, bush is bad, and Obama & Hillary saints, we get your view. Yes, that is exactly what I said! ***I notice you won't even acknowledge that isil didn't exist until just before Benghazi. lol, is that what you heard on the radio? ISIL under that naming was formed in April 2013. Islamic State of Iraq formed somewhere in 2006. The foundation for these groups goes back to 1999. Clearly when you look at those dates September 2012 stands out. QuoteInaction, unwillingness to admit Islamic terrorism, and inaction has let them grow. Blaming bush is like saying that it's carters fault that Iran took hostages. Yes, exactly the same! I think I heard that on the radio too. What radio are you listening to. Try having your own thoughts.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #33 February 19, 2015 turtlespeed Try having your own thoughts. How ironic. Score 10.0, all that. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
