ryoder 1,590 #1 February 13, 2015 Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks??? http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #2 February 13, 2015 >Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks? They have to justify all that body armor and weaponry somehow. And, you know, terrorism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,486 #3 February 13, 2015 Oh, Dear Lord. Dismantle DHS Drop the Patriot Act Combine 16 Intelligence Agencies into one. Bigun for President. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 February 13, 2015 BIGUN Oh, Dear Lord. Dismantle DHS Drop the Patriot Act Combine 16 Intelligence Agencies into one. Bigun for President. You'd get my vote! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #5 February 13, 2015 I'd vote for you Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #6 February 14, 2015 AnvilbrotherI'd vote for you Sure why not!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #7 February 14, 2015 BIGUNCombine 16 Intelligence Agencies into one. I think there should be three. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 February 14, 2015 Iago Dance, puppet. Dance! Heeeeey Macarana! So it is newer than 25 years old, and therefore less safe than an older one.And that idiot is expecting us to buy that?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 February 14, 2015 Iago ******Dance, puppet. Dance! Heeeeey Macarana! So it is newer than 25 years old, and therefore less safe than an older one.And that idiot is expecting us to buy that?This is a bunch of nonsense. What concerns me more is the shit eating grin this guy has about what a great job they're doing. Every other country out there has the LR Defender. It's a staple of the Outback, Savannah, whatever. Just, really, friggin incredible. They should do the same for hummveesI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #10 February 14, 2015 Before getting into my rant, I want to say BIGUN has my 2016 prez vote. It sure isn't going to be Hill, Jeb, or Liz. I like the Discovery's and contemplated buying one once for my work/play in remote locations. They, like others have said, are tough off-road vehicles and used by military worldwide. It was disappointing to see the vid of vehicle destruction. Such a waste of resources. I don't buy the doing a service to American public "safety issue". Hell, just look at the pic's from Ms. Jenner's crash and tell me you wouldn't want to have been in the H2 (similar style of vehicle). This is just another political and greedy government power grab using their three letters agencies to go after people with their more common than not "guilty until proven innocent mentality". Despicable! The arguments against no air bags, proper belts, emissions are nothing but canards. If that was true a 50-60 billion dollar a year business of after market and custom car/truck/bike parts would not have customers or many less. That number was put out on the air by a K & N representative who was a guest on the Ron Armenian car show last weekend or the weekend before. I believe the above mentioned actions are for the most part instigated by politicians going after their enemies or donors and supporters of their rivals. I vaguely remembered a incident involving Bill Gates many years ago (more on that later), which I goggled, turning up a number of incidents......I eliminated any that were related to drug, tax, or other illegal stuff (whether true or not).... *Feds took 1994 Cizeta V-16 valued at $700,000.00 from Family Classic Cars in San Juan Capistrano because did not meet EPA or safety regs. *Federal Judge blasts procedures used in Suffolk City, NY to seize a Ferrari with out due process. Back to Bill Gates, he had a very rare Porsche 959 (Allen his former partner had one too) imported into the USA. They were sized by the feds and held/stored "carefully" for awhile. They (Gates, Allen, Campena [spell? I know and have talked with...] ) were able to get the law changed. The laws wording was "To allow autos of interest" to by-pass regs. FYI, as of a couple of years ago their cars could be seen in the Seattle and Bellevue areas. This is a very subjective law and obviously the Discovery owners weren't the richest man/woman in USA as well being one of the ruling elites favorite progressives. Maybe most reading this don't give a shit, because oh it's just some "rich fucks" losing their toys. Oh contraire, look at government illegal confiscation of cash and banks accounts (I think ryoder posted a thread on that). Explain your reason for having $2000.00-$3,000.00 cash on you when headed to your next boggie as you are pulled over on the freeway for no apparent cause by a "Viper Teams" (google it), in which your cash is "confiscated". Then do a profit and loss on travelling back to said state to hire lawyer, go to court, attempt to get $$$$ back.....not worth it. Total rip off. LE can talk all they want about having "reasonable cause" (and the posters her may very well operate like that, I dunno) but in the real world there are many, many examples of what I would describe as illegal government confiscation.....eminent domain being a a Huge one......Stop "major thread drift". Anyway, bottom-line this seizure and destruction of these Discovery's is pure subjective political bullshit under current laws enforced by the ruling elite to their ends. We all owe it to ourselves, family, and community to start a major house cleaning of politico's of all stripes at a local level. The dee-cee crowd and their sleeping partners (lobbyist's) have their positions fortified.......for now. Edit correction...I meant to say Defender, not Discovery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,486 #12 February 14, 2015 champu ***Combine 16 Intelligence Agencies into one. I think there should be three. I want to thank everyone for your support. Champu... unfortunately, if you're going to start arguing with me at this point; I'm going to have to take VP off the table. Maybe we can find something for you in the Dept. of Interior. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #13 February 14, 2015 Department of the Interior huh? Can I be in charge of issuing permits for BASE jumping in national parks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,486 #14 February 14, 2015 Absolutely.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #15 February 15, 2015 IagoYep. And like I said, what concerns me most is the puppets doing the job that do not question the how and the why. Eggzactly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #16 February 15, 2015 champuDepartment of the Interior huh? Can I be in charge of issuing permits for BASE jumping in national parks? You have my support.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #17 February 15, 2015 ryoder Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks???http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729 Could this be the same government that last year declared a paper plane flown outdoors in your back yard to be an aircraft subject to FAA regulations?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #18 February 15, 2015 kallend ***Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks???http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729 Could this be the same government that last year declared a paper plane flown outdoors in your back yard to be an aircraft subject to FAA regulations? Yes - and we need MORE government to make sure that the agencies that declare things about are overseen by other agencies that are overseen by other agencies that report directly to some more bureaucrats that report to committees that are overseen by more agencies.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #19 February 15, 2015 kallend ***Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks???http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729 Could this be the same government that last year declared a paper plane flown outdoors in your back yard to be an aircraft subject to FAA regulations? But you're good with them running your health care...Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #20 February 15, 2015 From the article: QuoteBut because these imports were moving through unofficial distribution channels, they started eating into automakers' profits. After Mercedes-Benz and other car companies spent millions of dollars lobbying Congress, lawmakers passed rules in 1988 that heavily restricted the importation of foreign cars. Crony capitalism...ALWAYS follow the $$$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #21 February 15, 2015 ryoder Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks???http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729 Perhaps there are some that have forgotten just how dangerous trucks can be: http://youtu.be/le2bPRGvKXE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #22 February 15, 2015 airdvr ******Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks???http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729 Could this be the same government that last year declared a paper plane flown outdoors in your back yard to be an aircraft subject to FAA regulations? But you're good with them running your health care... They aren't running anyone's health care, except participating veterans. I have exactly the same physician and insurance as before, and, I suspect, so do most people.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #23 February 16, 2015 kallend *********Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks???http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729 Could this be the same government that last year declared a paper plane flown outdoors in your back yard to be an aircraft subject to FAA regulations? But you're good with them running your health care... They aren't running anyone's health care, except participating veterans. I have exactly the same physician and insurance as before, and, I suspect, so do most people. Not Most people.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #24 February 16, 2015 It's pretty f###ing ridiculous. It should put to rest this notion that the people of the USA are the most free people in the world, because they are not. However perhaps these people could have avoided this whole affair if they had just bought a Jeep instead. Not sure why anyone would want to wheel in a Land Rover when they could be wheeling in a Jeep. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #25 February 16, 2015 turtlespeed ************Predawn raids to protect us from old trucks???http://jalopnik.com/why-are-the-feds-obsessed-with-seizing-these-peoples-ol-1672381729 Could this be the same government that last year declared a paper plane flown outdoors in your back yard to be an aircraft subject to FAA regulations? But you're good with them running your health care... They aren't running anyone's health care, except participating veterans. I have exactly the same physician and insurance as before, and, I suspect, so do most people. Not Most people. How do you know this? We hear some whining, but there is precious little data to suggest that the government forced changes on most people. Certainly some employers who previously offered sub-standard plans forced some changes.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
