rushmc 23 #1 February 12, 2015 The following link contains dozens of links that expose the 97% bs regarding climate change and scientists Please, stop embarasing yourselves http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/19/97-articles-refuting-the-97-consensus-on-global-warming/ QuoteThe 97% “consensus” study, Cook et al. (2013) has been thoroughly refuted in scholarly peer-reviewed journals, by major news media, public policy organizations and think tanks, highly credentialed scientists and extensively in the climate blogosphere. The shoddy methodology of Cook’s study has been shown to be so fatally flawed that well known climate scientists have publicly spoken out against it, Edited to add QuoteCompiled by populartechnology.net and reproduced here with permission"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibx 2 #2 February 13, 2015 I've always wanted to read a publication titled "consenses shmensus". That must be some serious journalism. Where can I get the subscription? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #3 February 13, 2015 >I've always wanted to read a publication titled "consenses shmensus" The idea that science works by consensus is a LIE! And to prove it, "join my crowd-sourced complaint about the ‘97% consensus'," Because you know if it's crowd-sourced it's accurate. When has a bunch of people who post on the Internet ever been wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 February 13, 2015 billvon>I've always wanted to read a publication titled "consenses shmensus" The idea that science works by consensus is a LIE! And to prove it, "join my crowd-sourced complaint about the ‘97% consensus'," Because you know if it's crowd-sourced it's accurate. When has a bunch of people who post on the Internet ever been wrong? You just dont want to let this one go huh...... Desperation on display"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #5 February 13, 2015 rushmcThe following link contains dozens of links that expose the 97% bs regarding climate change and scientists Please, stop embarasing yourselves http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/19/97-articles-refuting-the-97-consensus-on-global-warming/ QuoteThe 97% “consensus” study, Cook et al. (2013) has been thoroughly refuted in scholarly peer-reviewed journals, by major news media, public policy organizations and think tanks, highly credentialed scientists and extensively in the climate blogosphere. The shoddy methodology of Cook’s study has been shown to be so fatally flawed that well known climate scientists have publicly spoken out against it, Edited to add ***Compiled by populartechnology.net and reproduced here with permission So other than linking to a biased website, can you explain why the 97% is bullshit? So far all you have is (a few studies) saying there is a 97% consensus. Then supposedly a few studies that claim that number isn't correct. What you are doing is not believing certain studies, because you believe other studies. (If you cannot see the irony in this.....) So, can you explain in your words, why this number is bullshit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 February 13, 2015 Reposted at this sight. Linked here just for you. And you didnt look at any of the 97 other links did you"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #7 February 13, 2015 >You just dont want to let this one go huh . . . I wasn't the one who posted about it because he can't let it go. I thought the "consensus shmensus" was pretty funny. But if you are angry because I'm not taking "consensus shmensus" seriously enough, well . . . not sure how I can help you out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 February 13, 2015 billvon>You just dont want to let this one go huh . . . I wasn't the one who posted about it because he can't let it go. I thought the "consensus shmensus" was pretty funny. But if you are angry because I'm not taking "consensus shmensus" seriously enough, well . . . not sure how I can help you out there."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 February 13, 2015 billvon>You just dont want to let this one go huh . . . I wasn't the one who posted about it because he can't let it go. I thought the "consensus shmensus" was pretty funny. But if you are angry because I'm not taking "consensus shmensus" seriously enough, well . . . not sure how I can help you out there.posts about emotions again. Consistant or projection. Not sure which"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #10 February 13, 2015 Quick list of scientific organizations endorsing the consensus: ================================= The following scientific organizations endorse the consensus position that "most of the global warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities": American Association for the Advancement of Science American Astronomical Society American Chemical Society American Geophysical Union American Institute of Physics American Meteorological Society American Physical Society Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO British Antarctic Survey Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Environmental Protection Agency European Federation of Geologists European Geosciences Union European Physical Society Federation of American Scientists Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies Geological Society of America Geological Society of Australia Geological Society of London International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA) International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics National Center for Atmospheric Research National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Royal Meteorological Society Royal Society of the UK 13 countries have signed a joint statement endorsing the consensus position: "Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver. These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of evidence, and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science." Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil) Royal Society of Canada Chinese Academy of Sciences Academie des Sciences (France) Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany) Indian National Science Academy Accademia dei Lincei (Italy) Science Council of Japan Academia Mexicana de Ciencias (Mexico) Russian Academy of Sciences Academy of Science of South Africa Royal Society (United Kingdom) National Academy of Sciences (USA) (12 Mar 2009 news release) A letter from 18 scientific organizations to US Congress states: The consensus is also endorsed by a Joint statement by the Network of African Science Academies (NASAC), including the following bodies: African Academy of Sciences Cameroon Academy of Sciences Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences Kenya National Academy of Sciences Madagascar's National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences Nigerian Academy of Sciences l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal Uganda National Academy of Sciences Academy of Science of South Africa Tanzania Academy of Sciences Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences Zambia Academy of Sciences Sudan Academy of Sciences Other Academies of Sciences that endorse the consensus: Australian Academy of Science Royal Society of New Zealand Polish Academy of Sciences ============================ Nothing from the National Science Association of Shmensus yet, for some reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #11 February 13, 2015 billvonQuick list of scientific organizations endorsing the consensus: ================================= The following scientific organizations endorse the consensus position that "most of the global warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities": American Association for the Advancement of Science American Astronomical Society American Chemical Society American Geophysical Union American Institute of Physics American Meteorological Society American Physical Society Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO British Antarctic Survey Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Environmental Protection Agency European Federation of Geologists European Geosciences Union European Physical Society Federation of American Scientists Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies Geological Society of America Geological Society of Australia Geological Society of London International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA) International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics National Center for Atmospheric Research National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Royal Meteorological Society Royal Society of the UK 13 countries have signed a joint statement endorsing the consensus position: "Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver. These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of evidence, and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science." Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil) Royal Society of Canada Chinese Academy of Sciences Academie des Sciences (France) Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany) Indian National Science Academy Accademia dei Lincei (Italy) Science Council of Japan Academia Mexicana de Ciencias (Mexico) Russian Academy of Sciences Academy of Science of South Africa Royal Society (United Kingdom) National Academy of Sciences (USA) (12 Mar 2009 news release) A letter from 18 scientific organizations to US Congress states: The consensus is also endorsed by a Joint statement by the Network of African Science Academies (NASAC), including the following bodies: African Academy of Sciences Cameroon Academy of Sciences Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences Kenya National Academy of Sciences Madagascar's National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences Nigerian Academy of Sciences l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal Uganda National Academy of Sciences Academy of Science of South Africa Tanzania Academy of Sciences Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences Zambia Academy of Sciences Sudan Academy of Sciences Other Academies of Sciences that endorse the consensus: Australian Academy of Science Royal Society of New Zealand Polish Academy of Sciences ============================ Nothing from the National Science Association of Shmensus yet, for some reason. Some consensus that is, Bill. Where's the endorsement from Somalia, Yemen or N. Korea? JEEZ!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 February 14, 2015 billvonQuick list of scientific organizations endorsing the consensus: ================================= The following scientific organizations endorse the consensus position that "most of the global warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities": American Association for the Advancement of Science American Astronomical Society American Chemical Society American Geophysical Union American Institute of Physics American Meteorological Society American Physical Society Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO British Antarctic Survey Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Environmental Protection Agency European Federation of Geologists European Geosciences Union European Physical Society Federation of American Scientists Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies Geological Society of America Geological Society of Australia Geological Society of London International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA) International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics National Center for Atmospheric Research National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Royal Meteorological Society Royal Society of the UK 13 countries have signed a joint statement endorsing the consensus position: "Observations throughout the world make it clear that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver. These conclusions are based on multiple independent lines of evidence, and contrary assertions are inconsistent with an objective assessment of the vast body of peer-reviewed science." Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil) Royal Society of Canada Chinese Academy of Sciences Academie des Sciences (France) Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany) Indian National Science Academy Accademia dei Lincei (Italy) Science Council of Japan Academia Mexicana de Ciencias (Mexico) Russian Academy of Sciences Academy of Science of South Africa Royal Society (United Kingdom) National Academy of Sciences (USA) (12 Mar 2009 news release) A letter from 18 scientific organizations to US Congress states: The consensus is also endorsed by a Joint statement by the Network of African Science Academies (NASAC), including the following bodies: African Academy of Sciences Cameroon Academy of Sciences Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences Kenya National Academy of Sciences Madagascar's National Academy of Arts, Letters and Sciences Nigerian Academy of Sciences l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal Uganda National Academy of Sciences Academy of Science of South Africa Tanzania Academy of Sciences Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences Zambia Academy of Sciences Sudan Academy of Sciences Other Academies of Sciences that endorse the consensus: Australian Academy of Science Royal Society of New Zealand Polish Academy of Sciences ============================ Nothing from the National Science Association of Shmensus yet, for some reason. Sure they need to protect the cash cow http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/01/02/dark-money-funds-to-promote-global-warming-alarmism-dwarf-warming-denier-research/"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #13 February 14, 2015 >Some consensus that is, Bill. Where's the endorsement from Somalia, Yemen or N. Korea? JEEZ! And ISIS continues to refuse to make a statement on climate change. THERE'S NO CONSENSUS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #14 February 14, 2015 billvon>Some consensus that is, Bill. Where's the endorsement from Somalia, Yemen or N. Korea? JEEZ! And ISIS continues to refuse to make a statement on climate change. THERE'S NO CONSENSUS! According to the Huffington Post, climate change created ISIS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funjumper101 15 #15 February 14, 2015 rushmcThe following link contains dozens of links that expose the 97% bs regarding climate change and scientists Please, stop embarasing yourselves http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/12/19/97-articles-refuting-the-97-consensus-on-global-warming/ QuoteThe 97% “consensus” study, Cook et al. (2013) has been thoroughly refuted in scholarly peer-reviewed journals, by major news media, public policy organizations and think tanks, highly credentialed scientists and extensively in the climate blogosphere. The shoddy methodology of Cook’s study has been shown to be so fatally flawed that well known climate scientists have publicly spoken out against it, Edited to add ***Compiled by populartechnology.net and reproduced here with permission As a stellar example of what passes for "intelligence" in Reich Wing Conservative circles, Marc posts - Don't confuse me with factual websites that have real, documented, factual information on them. I have my own web sites that agree with what my fearless leaders in the Reich Wing Media tell me to believe. Here is the link and some excess spew about the content. Also known as "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 February 14, 2015 funjumper101 "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!" Believe me I know this to be a fact"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 February 16, 2015 http://climatechangepredictions.org/consensus"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 February 17, 2015 Google "psychological projection." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #19 February 17, 2015 After asking you the following question: Quoteother than linking to a biased website, can you explain why the 97% is bullshit? You reply with: QuoteReposted at this sight. Linked here just for you. And you didnt look at any of the 97 other links did you The answer is: No, you cannot explain it yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #20 February 17, 2015 Some good news on the climate change front. Even republicans are starting to give up on denial. From your favorite news source, Newsmax: =========== With Eye on 2016, Rand Paul Takes Bipartisan Approach Monday, 16 Feb 2015 09:51 AM By Jennifer G. Hickey . . . Paul believes that his embrace of constituencies outside of the traditional GOP primary voting bloc is what is needed to win the presidency. "I don't think we will get there [to a Republican winning the presidency] if we nominate the same old, same old," Paul said recently in an interview on "Kennedy," the Fox Business Network's new program. "There is abundant evidence that carbon is increasing and has been increasing since the industrial age. All I ask for is that the solution has to be a balanced solution and you have to account for jobs and jobs lost by regulation. "And I am not against regulation; I think the environment has been cleaned up dramatically through regulations on emissions as well as clean water over the last 40 to 50 years. But I don't want to shut down all forms of energy so that thousands and thousands of people lose jobs," he told Maher. More recently, Paul was one of 15 Republican senators to vote in favor of an amendment, offered during the January debate on legislation to approve the Keystone XL pipeline, acknowledging that humans have some impact on climate change. ================ From the NYT: Most Republicans Say They Back Climate Action, Poll Finds By CORAL DAVENPORT and MARJORIE CONNELLY JAN. 30, 2015 WASHINGTON — An overwhelming majority of the American public, including half of Republicans, support government action to curb global warming, according to a poll conducted by The New York Times, Stanford University and the nonpartisan environmental research group Resources for the Future. In a finding that could have implications for the 2016 presidential campaign, the poll also found that two-thirds of Americans said they were more likely to vote for political candidates who campaign on fighting climate change. They were less likely to vote for candidates who questioned or denied the science that determined that humans caused global warming. Among Republicans, 48 percent say they are more likely to vote for a candidate who supports fighting climate change, a result that Jon A. Krosnick, a professor of political science at Stanford University and an author of the survey, called “the most powerful finding” in the poll. Many Republican candidates question the science of climate change or do not publicly address the issue. This nationwide survey asked people for their views on whether global warming will be beneficial or detrimental, about how the president and Congress have responded to it, and what they believe government should do about it. Nonetheless, 47 percent of Republicans still said they believed that policies designed to curb global warming would hurt the economy. Although the poll found that climate change was not a top issue in determining a person’s vote, a candidate’s position on climate change influences how a person will vote. For example, 67 percent of respondents, including 48 percent of Republicans and 72 percent of independents, said they were less likely to vote for a candidate who said that human-caused climate change is a hoax. The results came as climate change was emerging as a source of debate in the coming presidential campaign. In 2012, all the Republican presidential candidates but one — Jon M. Huntsman Jr. — questioned or denied the science that determined that humans caused global warming, and opposed policies to curb greenhouse gas emissions. But over the past year, President Obama has proposed a series of Environmental Protection Agency regulations intended to reduce carbon pollution from coal-fired power plants, which Republicans in Congress have attacked as a “war on coal.” But those positions appear to be out of step with the majority of the electorate. The poll found that 83 percent of Americans, including 61 percent of Republicans and 86 percent of independents, say that if nothing is done to reduce emissions, global warming will be a very or somewhat serious problem in the future.. . . Over all, the number of Americans who believe that climate change is caused by human activity is growing. In a 2011 Stanford University poll, 72 percent of people thought climate change was caused at least in part by human activities. That grew to 81 percent in the latest poll. By party, 88 percent of Democrats, 83 percent of independents and 71 percent of Republicans said that climate change was caused at least in part by human activities. ======================= Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
