airdvr 210 #1 January 29, 2015 I've seen this ad a couple of times. It's amusing right until the end where the mom praises her son for not following the rules. What do you think? I think she's sending the wrong message. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFAhGvnH-EPlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,593 #2 January 29, 2015 That particular rule is stupid (don't swim for an hour). Mom should encourage thinking about rules, and why they exist. Not just to ignore ones that one disagrees with, but so that one can evaluate the real consequences of ignoring them. The assumption is that most rules have a reason. But one can decide that reason is invalid, and that can happen as a child. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #3 January 29, 2015 airdvrI've seen this ad a couple of times. It's amusing right until the end where the mom praises her son for not following the rules. What do you think? I think she's sending the wrong message. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFAhGvnH-E What? Do you think all rules should be followed w/o questions, even baseless rules?lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #4 January 29, 2015 I think if you don't like the rules you should work to change them. But I don't think parents should praise their children for breaking the rules. Where is the line drawn? In the surreal kid part he ends up in prison...not a far stretch if mom thinks it's a good idea. I dunno...it rubbed me the wrong way.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #5 January 29, 2015 I think you are overthinking it. Hence I went for Boobies Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #6 January 29, 2015 Stumpy I think you are overthinking it. Hence I went for Boobies lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #7 January 29, 2015 airdvrI've seen this ad a couple of times. It's amusing right until the end where the mom praises her son for not following the rules. What do you think? I think she's sending the wrong message. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFAhGvnH-E I agree. It's just more of the "my kid can do no wrong" mentality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 January 29, 2015 airdvrI've seen this ad a couple of times. It's amusing right until the end where the mom praises her son for not following the rules. What do you think? I think she's sending the wrong message. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFAhGvnH-E Where did she praise him? it looked a little bit like exasperation with a smile and a push toward the car.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #9 January 29, 2015 Quote Mom should encourage thinking about rules, and why they exist. Not just to ignore ones that one disagrees with, but so that one can evaluate the real consequences of ignoring them. The assumption is that most rules have a reason. But one can decide that reason is invalid, and that can happen as a child. I agree you should teach your kids the consequences of actions, and play the what "if" game with them about warning signs. I disagree that they should on their own choose to follow signs based off of their own decision making skills. Children do not have the risk outcome knowledge or reasoning skills to be able to make that decision on a consistently safe basis to allow them to just decide on their own which rules to follow and which to ignore. "No Diving" Aww they just dont want us to have fun...Head first dive....Now his neck is broken and he is paralyzed. "Seatbelt must be worn at all times" Why? We have airbags, that's a newer technology it has got to be safer than the old seatbelts......Ejected from car when it rolled over. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 900 #10 January 29, 2015 Most children have been in unsupervised swimming environments soon after eating enough times to know this "rule" is bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #11 January 29, 2015 QuoteMost children have been in unsupervised swimming environments soon after eating enough times to know this "rule" is bullshit. I wasn't talking about any "1 hour sign". Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,593 #12 January 29, 2015 The video had a 1 hour sign, not a diving sign. Part of evaluating rules and consequences is talking about specific ones. I'd've probably said something different had it been a no diving sign, especially at a shallow pool. If kids learn boundaries by understanding them, and the real consequences by practicing where the penalty is low, they will then have more knowledge and experience when the rules aren't as clear, or when their parents aren't around, or when the consequences are higher. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #13 January 29, 2015 wmw999The video had a 1 hour sign, not a diving sign. Part of evaluating rules and consequences is talking about specific ones. I'd've probably said something different had it been a no diving sign, especially at a shallow pool. If kids learn boundaries by understanding them, and the real consequences by practicing where the penalty is low, they will then have more knowledge and experience when the rules aren't as clear, or when their parents aren't around, or when the consequences are higher. Wendy P. Dismissing the absurdity of the 1 hour rule; I'd prefer my child understands that when he's in a public facility, under the supervision of others, and that if he does not agree with the rules, regardless of the merits, then he does not participate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #14 January 29, 2015 jclalorI'd prefer my child understands that when he's in a public facility, under the supervision of others, and that if he does not agree with the rules, regardless of the merits, then he does not participate. ^ this, and also a private facility as well kids (and adults) should learn self control, and respect if a rule is bogus - then it's a good opportunity to talk about how to attack/change it without being an arrogant and selfish ass ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #15 January 29, 2015 It's a fucking tv commercial. If your kids are getting moral guidance from TV commercials, you have already lost as a parent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #16 January 29, 2015 SkyDekkerIt's a fucking tv commercial. If your kids are getting moral guidance from TV commercials, you have already lost as a parent. I try to mix it up with commercials and online forums. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #17 January 29, 2015 jclalor***It's a fucking tv commercial. If your kids are getting moral guidance from TV commercials, you have already lost as a parent. I try to mix it up with commercials and online forums. Don't forget computer games.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 January 29, 2015 SkyDekkerIt's a fucking tv commercial. If your kids are getting moral guidance from TV commercials, you have already lost as a parent. I will NOT have you bad mouthing TV. It's raised a couple generations already. How dare you, Sir! ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #19 January 29, 2015 Don't know... I can't get past the oddness of the whole situation in the commercial. First, I've never seen such a sign at a swimming pool. And I've never seen a lifeguard monitoring when someone eats and how long they wait to get in the pool afterward. So it all seems goofy to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xsniper 1 #20 January 29, 2015 rehmwa***It's a fucking tv commercial. If your kids are getting moral guidance from TV commercials, you have already lost as a parent. I will NOT have you bad mouthing TV. It's raised a couple generations already. How dare you, Sir! Haha..+1 on that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #21 January 30, 2015 This is the commercial that was recently bugging me. (Verizon "Half Fast") I'd be taking the spoiled kids' presents back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPqeDokFnok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #22 January 30, 2015 Yeah, that was a dumb way to make a point that was dumb to begin with. Unless everyone in your family has their own twitch.tv channel, you don't need upstream speeds in parity with your downstream speed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites