bigbearfng 18 #151 January 9, 2015 ***Ok everyone keep in mind that 99% of what John says is to bait the other person. He is a master at it - I mean that. Like crazy good at it. __________________________________________________ Isn't that kinda what a troll does?????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #152 January 9, 2015 billvon>Know how a "lucky shot" can take down an aircraft? Sure. Heck, a little ice can take down an aircraft. But the myth of a bullethole causing explosive decompression, sucking people out the huge hole that results, destroying the aircraft etc is just that. >Shoot the the floor and hope you don't hit the control system? Well, you'd have to hit three in most aircraft - which isn't impossible but is unlikely. Needless to say, it is in general a bad idea to shoot weapons in a flying airplane. But a terrorist's gun poses much more of a threat actually shooting people than in "taking down the plane" (or sucking people out a large hole) due to an errant shot. (However come to think of it that might be a good myth to promulgate.) >Come to think of it, a slow decompress may render the whole plane unconscious >within a minute. Agreed but a bullethole won't do that. Between the speed the aircraft can descend and the extra capacity from the pressurization system* even a few bulletholes aren't generally going to be the biggest threat from a terrorist's gun. (* most pressurization systems put a large amount of pressurized air into the aircraft via bleed air, and vent it via an orifice valve. The valve, rather than the bleed air, determines the cabin altitude. Thus extra holes just cause the orifice valve to close more tightly, until it cannot close any further.) Bill: you ALWAYS make me think. So does kallend. Thank you. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,466 #153 January 9, 2015 Hi rocket, QuoteBill: you ALWAYS make me think. So does kallend. Thank you. WOW: big WOW. Something you & I can agree on. Good for you for posting that, Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #154 January 9, 2015 kallend ***Yet again with the one sided surprise. It's always one way and dead end with you. I'm sure you're MUCH better than the Secret Service men who protected Reagan from Hinckley. I bet you could also land a Velo 84 when you were just off student status. I'm surprised Marvel doesn't make superhero movies about you and Turtle. Im am so sorry that you would hide and cower in your own piss. Its ok, I'd still kill the terrorists, and you may yet live. Just to complain that I killed someone, or used a gun, or something else . . . its you, its what you do. Cower some more . . . its OK, the real men have your back.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #155 January 9, 2015 airdvr ******If somebody threatens me or my family with violence, you goddamn well better understand I will meet violence with violence, in the context of self defense. Anybody that says I can't do that, I say go fuck yourself. Another one who thinks he can do better than the the Secret Service or tactically trained police. I'm sure you would *TRY*. That's all anyone can do. I believe given the opportunity you would try as well. Not by his comments . . . but one never knows. MY GUESS is that he would cower and hide, waiting for someone else to take care of him. Again, if the situation arose, I wouod be that guy, no matter who he is.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #156 January 9, 2015 Your one warning. Cut it out. (Kallend, you too.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #157 January 9, 2015 turtlespeed ******Yet again with the one sided surprise. It's always one way and dead end with you. I'm sure you're MUCH better than the Secret Service men who protected Reagan from Hinckley. I bet you could also land a Velo 84 when you were just off student status. I'm surprised Marvel doesn't make superhero movies about you and Turtle. Im am so sorry that you would hide and cower in your own piss. Its ok, I'd still kill the terrorists, and you may yet live. Just to complain that I killed someone, or used a gun, or something else . . . its you, its what you do. Cower some more . . . its OK, the real men have your back.Meh. What you repeatedly FAIL to acknowledge is that the likelihood that you will prevent a terrorist attack with your gun is negligibly small, while the likelihood that your gun will end up killing you or a member of your family is far far higher. Keyboard warriors are a menace to themselves and their families.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
verticalflyer 11 #158 January 9, 2015 Interesting debate what concerns me more is that their are some in the muslim community who actually believe the actions in Paris were justified. When these kind of views are shared acros communities there is very little hope of any kind of integration. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02gkblsDont just talk about it, Do it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #159 January 9, 2015 verticalflyer Interesting debate what concerns me more is that their are some in the muslim community who actually believe the actions in Paris were justified. When these kind of views are shared acros communities there is very little hope of any kind of integration. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02gkbls I cannot fathom the mentality of idiots who are afraid their chosen supreme being is so fragile that he can be harmed by the mere words (and sketches) of non-believers.If I found myself in that situation, I'd be looking for a more powerful supreme being."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #160 January 9, 2015 SkyDekker****** I haven't seen too many North American media outlets display the courage this French media outlet displayed. The only attacks on media outlets in North America (that I can recall) in recent history were from Anthrax in letters mailed to them. So not sure what you are comparing to. Media outlets actively posting satirical cartoons regarding Islam. Media outlets continuing to do so after getting firebombed. Media outlets continuing to do so after being put on a hit list etc etc. got it sorry you are correct sir like this "His publication responded to efforts at intimidation by being even more irreverent or outrageous, defying the constraints of religious sensitivity or political correctness."You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #161 January 9, 2015 Quotegot it sorry you are correct sir What SkyDekker was referring to in regards to the North American media self-censoring itself is largely true. I can't speak for all of America's media outlets because I do not have the time to search them all. But here in English Canada only three media outlets have shown the cartoons. The National Post, Sun News and there is apparently a newspaper in the Maritimes who have shown them. All of the other mainstream English language media outlets: CBC, CTV, Global, Toronto Star, Globe and Mail etc, etc, etc have all decided to self censor themselves. Most of these media outlets are just being silent. But the CBC has come out and publicly stated that they will criticize all religions whenever they want, except for one religion. The CBC has publicly stated that they will never say anything negative that will risk offending Muslims. Looks like the CBC's Stockholm Syndrome is flaring up again. When the CBC posts a picture of their employees holding up "Je suis Charlie" cards, you know the CBC is full of shit. I should point out though that a number of media outlets in French Quebec have shown the cartoons. Quebec obviously has historical ties to France but Quebec has also made an attempt in recent years to force immigrants to assimilate into Quebec culture, much to the displeasure of some. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #162 January 9, 2015 When you place insult in the same playing field as a physical attack and you place a god before yourself and family you end up espousing an eye for an idol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #163 January 9, 2015 NPR is reporting: - 2 dirtbags dead at factory outside Paris, and one hostage freed. - One dirtbag dead at Jewish grocery, and multiple hostages freed."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #164 January 9, 2015 And the dirt bags were greeted with this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pgpTaYaQ6oc/TrTKijo-3cI/AAAAAAAAAfY/evFjtTsFGrE/s1600/islm_cartoon_6.jpg when they finally got to meet their prophet. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #165 January 9, 2015 kallend ***If somebody threatens me or my family with violence, you goddamn well better understand I will meet violence with violence, in the context of self defense. Anybody that says I can't do that, I say go fuck yourself. Another one who thinks he can do better than the the Secret Service or tactically trained police. I'm sure you would *TRY*. I would not be as good as the secret service or tactically trained police, for God's sake, but... in their absence, I'll do what the fuck I can until they get there. Capisce? There is no way in hell I'm gonna just sit there and let some motherfucker mow me down. If that's YOUR thing, more power to you. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #166 January 9, 2015 BillyVance ******If somebody threatens me or my family with violence, you goddamn well better understand I will meet violence with violence, in the context of self defense. Anybody that says I can't do that, I say go fuck yourself. Another one who thinks he can do better than the the Secret Service or tactically trained police. I'm sure you would *TRY*. I would not be as good as the secret service or tactically trained police, for God's sake, but... in their absence, I'll do what the fuck I can until they get there. Capisce? There is no way in hell I'm gonna just sit there and let some motherfucker mow me down. If that's YOUR thing, more power to you. Now that the terrorists are dead, how long do you think it will be until one of their moms comes on their (france's) news stations and says that it was unjustified, and the police were too brutal. Any wagers? Mybet s that even if they do look for them, that kind of drivel wouldn't be allowed.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #167 January 9, 2015 On the plus side you wont need hearing protection while your shooting back Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #168 January 9, 2015 Anvilbrother On the plus side you wont need hearing protection while you're shooting back When he sought to shoot a .460 Weatherby without ear protection, I pointed out that the blast could fuck up a lot more in his ears than the mere ability to hear - semicircular canals and what have you. He wore full ear protection, and seemed to agree that it was a good idea. Even if he was just humoring me, I felt better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #169 January 9, 2015 winsor ***On the plus side you wont need hearing protection while you're shooting back When he sought to shoot a .460 Weatherby without ear protection, I pointed out that the blast could fuck up a lot more in his ears than the mere ability to hear - semicircular canals and what have you. He wore full ear protection, and seemed to agree that it was a good idea. Even if he was just humoring me, I felt better. That was a fun day, Winsor. Thanks for sharing your arsenal. You were right though. That thing was loud as fuck. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #170 January 9, 2015 Encouraging that many Muslim organizations are making statements denouncing what happened: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/46-examples-of-muslim-outrage-about-paris-shooting-that-fox-news-cant-seem-to-find/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #171 January 9, 2015 Rick********* I haven't seen too many North American media outlets display the courage this French media outlet displayed. The only attacks on media outlets in North America (that I can recall) in recent history were from Anthrax in letters mailed to them. So not sure what you are comparing to. Media outlets actively posting satirical cartoons regarding Islam. Media outlets continuing to do so after getting firebombed. Media outlets continuing to do so after being put on a hit list etc etc. got it sorry you are correct sir like this "His publication responded to efforts at intimidation by being even more irreverent or outrageous, defying the constraints of religious sensitivity or political correctness." Interesting article on this subject: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/yes-virginia-cartoons-are-worth-fighting-for-20150108 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #172 January 9, 2015 ryoderEncouraging that many Muslim organizations are making statements denouncing what happened: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/46-examples-of-muslim-outrage-about-paris-shooting-that-fox-news-cant-seem-to-find/ There are some encouraging signs of humanity in the world. After the recent terror attacks in Australia, the 'I'llRideWithYou' hastag went viral, showing the world that there were some people in Sydney who wouldn't cower to terrorism. After these attacks in Paris, massive support has been seen with the 'Je Suis Charlie' meme, and the 'Not Afraid' demonstrations... Both great examples for the world to be proud of. and here? Within 10 posts, this intellectual sewer had turned a report of a terror attack in a foreign country into a discussion on American gun ownership rights... It's pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #173 January 9, 2015 Video of the grocery store raid toward bottom of page: 1Z09RV19YW60532505 15 hostages rescued, 4 dead. Female accomplice still at large."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #174 January 9, 2015 Here is a good talk about CCW and the shooting, and why the armed police were possibly taken so easy. This guy is a retired Lt.Col and has deployed in every theater of operations since 1992. He also admits faults of Americans for those left that want to salivate over a pro gun guy from utah saying that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Vf2r7-xTI Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #175 January 9, 2015 French Google fund to pay for 1 million print run of Charlie Hebdo next week: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/09/alternative_google_tax_to_pay_for_1_million_charlie_hebdo_print_run_next_week/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
