The End of Men

[kallend 2,146]

Another thought provoking article from The Atlantic. The changing roles of men and women in the workplace in the post-industrial era and especially post recession.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/308135/?google_editors_picks=true

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Croc 0]

Bullshit.

"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so."

Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy

[kallend 2,146]

Croc

Bullshit.

Thanks for the insightful comments.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Croc 0]

Sometimes people need to be grabbed by the shoulders and shook real hard. Men are fine; you're just not going to find them in the places the author was looking. Boys have figured out that school is a waste of time. Careers spent doing mostly useless things with a goal of doing them better than the competition are a waste of time. College, except for a very few, is a colossal waste of time and money. And marriage is slavery. If boys have seen through the bullshit, why is that a problem?

"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so."

Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy

[CanuckInUSA 0]

I have been contracting at an insurance company in the IT department for the last three years and was recently extended for another year. The CEO of this insurance company is a woman. The CTO is a woman. The director of the IT department is male and so are 2 of the 3 IT department managers. 100% of all the Business Analysts in the IT department are women. 100% of the Business Analysts are full time employees. Also while I don't ever visit the regional offices, because I support the Commercial Auto Insurance Application I helped develop, I have access to the user roles and preferences database tables and part of my job is to monitor the application via the log files and about 75% of the Underwriters who use this application are women. 50% of the IT desktop support staff are women and 100% of this support staff are full time employees. As far as the developers are concerned (this would include myself), none of the developers are women and only about 20% of the developers are full time employees.

It's not a bad company to work at. The people are good, the work is interesting and I am definitely not asked to work crazy hours. But in summary, you can see while not all managers are female, the senior positions in the company are held by women. The majority of the people working at the company are women and there is not a single woman in the entire company who is a contract worker while the majority of the men who do work here at least in the IT department are only here under contract (myself included).

The end of men? Not yet. The beginning of the end? Perhaps.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[Croc 0]

Not to worry; soon women will realize that the positions that men have abandoned are not worth having. Then we will be ready for a new paradigm--a shift in the way our society earns a living. I expect that we will see more independent contractors and more start up small businesses.

In the mean time, you go, girl!

"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so."

Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy

[GeorgiaDon 379]

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Boys have figured out that school is a waste of time. Careers spent doing mostly useless things...

So medicine, engineering, architecture, and so on are useless things? You think we'd be better off if medicines were invented by uneducated hacks? You'd fly in planes designed by people who couldn't hack college level math?

Don

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kallend

Another thought provoking article from The Atlantic. The changing roles of men and women in the workplace in the post-industrial era and especially post recession.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/07/the-end-of-men/308135/?google_editors_picks=true

I'd agree in general but there is one important exception. In the years since 9/11, in the US and to a lesser extent other Western countries, the role of and level of respect for the military and other security-oriented occupations has increased exponentially. The military has a traditionally very masculine image. That may be changing a bit, but the military is still about 85% male.

The hi tech industry--although it has a very different image from the military--is also overwhelming male--in fact even more so than it used to be. Although many hi tech workers are geeks who aren't movers and shakers, many of the new powerful billionaires are men from the hi tech industry--and they are overwhelmingly men.

So I agree in general but there are still some areas with significant power which remain largely the province of men.

"It's hard to have fun at 4-way unless your whole team gets down to the ground safely to do it again!"--Northern California Skydiving League re USPA Safety Day, March 8, 2014

[Croc 0]

"College, except for a very few..."

I should have said "for most boys school is a waste of time"; and it is.

"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so."

Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy

[Croc 0]

There is no crisis. The leaders of our society will not come from the ranks of men, who as boys, took a back seat to girls; it will come from those (men and women) who never took a back seat to anyone.

You can't hold a good man down, and now, you can't hold a good woman down either. As it should be.

The problem will be for some women that they will attract men who are their opposites. In other words, women who act like men are likely to attract men who act like women. Whether that is a problem or not will depend on the individuals involved.

"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so."

Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy