ryoder 1,590 #1 December 31, 2014 http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/1-hospitalized-after-shooting-osceola-county-churc/njcsY/ Who would have thought that when you shoot at a pastor, he would shoot back *and* be more accurate?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 7 #2 December 31, 2014 God was helping him aim. Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #3 December 31, 2014 dats what happens when you mess with someone with a direct line to the almighty!!! your bullets miss - his don't!!! Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #4 December 31, 2014 God does not deliver us from circumstances. He guides us through them. Trust God, train hard and win the fight.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick 67 #5 December 31, 2014 D22369 dats what happens when you mess with someone with a direct line to the almighty!!! your bullets miss - his don't!!! Roy divine intervention You can't be drunk all day if you don't start early! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #6 December 31, 2014 Rick ***dats what happens when you mess with someone with a direct line to the almighty!!! your bullets miss - his don't!!! Roy divine intervention Greatest movie ever! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 December 31, 2014 So, if I get this correct A pastor, who carries concealed in his own church, was able to defend himself because he was carrying??? Imagine that "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #8 December 31, 2014 rushmc So, if I get this correct A pastor, who carries concealed in his own church, was able to defend himself because he was carrying??? Imagine that So much for the argument "you shouldn't go places you think you will need a gun", eh?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 December 31, 2014 ryoder ***So, if I get this correct A pastor, who carries concealed in his own church, was able to defend himself because he was carrying??? Imagine that So much for the argument "you shouldn't go places you think you will need a gun", eh? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #10 December 31, 2014 What the hell kind of church are people going to where they need to be armed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #11 December 31, 2014 rushmc So, if I get this correct A pastor, who carries concealed in his own church, was able to defend himself because he was carrying??? Imagine that When I last lived in Massachusetts, it was illegal to attend church without a loaded shotgun. It seems that the people who there here before the Europeans showed up noticed that the one time the Europeans were all in one place and unarmed was at church, and used that knowledge to good effect. In order to thwart Sunday morning attacks on churchgoers, the Legislature mandated that attendees must be armed when attending services. As is no great surprise, it is easier to pass a law than to strike one, so this mandate was still on the books. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 December 31, 2014 winsor ***So, if I get this correct A pastor, who carries concealed in his own church, was able to defend himself because he was carrying??? Imagine that When I last lived in Massachusetts, it was illegal to attend church without a loaded shotgun. It seems that the people who there here before the Europeans showed up noticed that the one time the Europeans were all in one place and unarmed was at church, and used that knowledge to good effect. In order to thwart Sunday morning attacks on churchgoers, the Legislature mandated that attendees must be armed when attending services. As is no great surprise, it is easier to pass a law than to strike one, so this mandate was still on the books. BSBD, Winsor Wow! I had no idea"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #13 December 31, 2014 As of 1 Jul 2014, it is now legal to carry in any church in GA if the pastor declares it acceptable. Remember, churches are targets of opportunity for Islamic terrorists.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomerdog 0 #14 December 31, 2014 No criticism of your question mind you but the report states there is a child care facility at the church so perhaps the Pastor thought it proper to be the good guy with the gun in the event a bad guy with a gun ever showed up. In this case, the potentiality became reality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #15 December 31, 2014 Boomerdog No criticism of your question mind you but the report states there is a child care facility at the church so perhaps the Pastor thought it proper to be the good guy with the gun in the event a bad guy with a gun ever showed up. In this case, the potentiality became reality. Plus any time you have to fire somebody, you're creating a risk for retaliatory action. This is what happened to Skinnyshrek, IIRC. He was going to fire one of his employees and he in turn stabbed him to death. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #16 December 31, 2014 Several years ago, when I went for my first Concealed Carry permit, one of the class instructors is an ordained minister. He told us that he carried when in the pulpit. The way things are going these days, I sure don't have a problem with that. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #17 December 31, 2014 masterrig Several years ago, when I went for my first Concealed Carry permit, one of the class instructors is an ordained minister. He told us that he carried when in the pulpit. The way things are going these days, I sure don't have a problem with that. Chuck Me either. There have been armed robberies in church during services in the past. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #18 December 31, 2014 BillyVance ***Several years ago, when I went for my first Concealed Carry permit, one of the class instructors is an ordained minister. He told us that he carried when in the pulpit. The way things are going these days, I sure don't have a problem with that. Chuck Me either. There have been armed robberies in church during services in the past. That's a true story! No one knows when some kind of shit is going to happen except the perpetrator. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 892 #19 December 31, 2014 Interesting! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #20 December 31, 2014 normissInteresting! Also from the 17th Century, Massachusetts, like Virginia, made any sexual act other than missionary position between husband and wife a felony (in Virginia it was a hanging offense until quite recently). While I was in college, a couple failed to close their drapes completely and a nosy neighbor peeked in to observe them pointing different directions on the couch. When the police showed up, the reaction was along the lines of 'Yeah, so? We're married.' Since it was still on the books and they admitted to it, he got something like 15 years and she got like 10. There was a big to do about it, and I do not know whether the convictions got overturned, but the last I heard they were still in the slammer. There was a saying in the Soviet Union that 'if it is not mandatory, it is forbidden.' What is mandated in one State or jurisdiction is a Felony in others; in some cases, adhering to one law puts you in violation of another. Most of the time the authorities are either unaware of outdated legislation or prefer to focus on more pressing issues. Occasionally, however, the letter of the law prevails, regardless of how nonsensical it might be. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMK 3 #21 December 31, 2014 normiss What the hell kind of church are people going to where they need to be armed? If you were purposefully seeking a place with a large number/proportion of crazy people, a church would be a good bet. I'd rank it #2 after mental wards. "Pain is the best instructor, but no one wants to attend his classes" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #22 December 31, 2014 BillyVance There have been armed robberies in church during services in the past. There has been more than just armed robberies at churches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreeece 2 #23 January 1, 2015 RonD1120As of 1 Jul 2014, it is now legal to carry in any church in GA if the pastor declares it acceptable. Remember, churches are targets of opportunity for Islamic terrorists. Angels of light/wolves in sheep's clothing are not easy to spot...and they've been with us since the beginning! They even lead our churches today....even to the whim of ignorant believers!Never was there an answer....not without listening, without seeing - Gilmour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #24 January 1, 2015 Amen to that! Happy New Year and God's blessings for 2015. Welcome back! I am glad to see you here. You do a much better job than I.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #25 January 1, 2015 George Carlin predicted this way back in the day.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
