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Toddler accidentally shoots and kills his mother in Idaho Wal-Mart

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Anvilbrother

Meanwhile since his post was made 27 people were killed by drunk drivers....



And in 2014, 31 people were killed in dog maulings
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Meanwhile since his post was made 27 people were killed by drunk drivers....



Then clearly there is no problem at all.



Well maybe there is
but you do not seem to have the capability to properly identify it
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Anvilbrother

Meanwhile since his post was made 27 people were killed by drunk drivers....



And the relevance of that is? Are the two problems mutually exclusive in your mind?
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***Meanwhile since his post was made 27 people were killed by drunk drivers....



And the relevance of that is? Are the two problems mutually exclusive in your mind?

How about this: only you can control what you do. Nothing will get done just bitching and spewing your opinions on here.
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If you dont already understand the rarity of the toddler situation, and the clear overreaction by those here compared to a thousand other serious, but far more often occurring problems I cant help you.

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If you dont already understand the rarity of the toddler situation, and the clear overreaction by those here compared to a thousand other serious, but far more often occurring problems I cant help you.



So you do consider the two problems to be mutually exclusive. I don't. I think each can be and needs to be addressed. We have made great strides in addressing drunk driving but folks like you strongly resist any attempts to address gun violence.
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Its simple risk management severity vs probability.. Its sad when anyone looses a life no matter how. In a gun death case we have the toddler, and the street gang shootings. In both of these situations a person looses a life. One of those happens a couple times a year by accident, the other one happens about a couple times an hour in malice. What is your solution ban all guns?

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Its simple risk management severity vs probability.. Its sad when anyone looses a life no matter how. In a gun death case we have the toddler, and the street gang shootings. In both of these situations a person looses a life. One of those happens a couple times a year by accident, the other one happens about a couple times an hour in malice. What is your solution ban all guns?



Thank you for summarizing why these discussion will continue to be useless on here....

Yet we will all continue having them lol

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Its simple risk management severity vs probability.. Its sad when anyone looses a life no matter how. In a gun death case we have the toddler, and the street gang shootings. In both of these situations a person looses a life. One of those happens a couple times a year by accident, the other one happens about a couple times an hour in malice. What is your solution ban all guns?



Addressing the one problem does not in any way whatsoever prevent addressing the other.
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Anvilbrother

What is your solution emperor. You bitch up a storm all day long here, but never offer any solutions. Lets hear it.



Because there is no simple solution. I certainly can't say that I have the magic solution that would solve the violence problem in the US. That doesn't mean interesting conversations and discussions cannot be had on the subject.

My previous comment was mostly based on your comment regarding banning guns. I have stated many times that I do not think banning guns is a solution for the US at this point.

Doesn't mean that a toddler shooting his mother doesn't warrent any discussion, just because drunk driving also happens.

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Because there is no simple solution. I certainly can't say that I have the magic solution that would solve the violence problem in the US. That doesn't mean interesting conversations and discussions cannot be had on the subject.



Sure we could talk about the moon being made of cheese, but lets not rave for weeks, and try to make it the top pressing issue of 2015. That is how the anti-gun comes off in this thread.

Since you cant come up with any solutions I have a few

Stronger selection and observation of CCH instructors, and classes. More child and gun safety awareness. Maybe show a video of a .45 hitting a watermelon in class, and follow up with if you do not properly respect firearms, and lock them up from children that are too young to teach the topic of firearm safety this could happen to you or them. Those that are older need to be exposed to the topic, and how to deal with those found at a friends home, the street etc. Do not touch, what to do if your friend has one, what to do/not to do if your suddenly handed one.

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Stronger selection and observation of CCH instructors, and classes. More child and gun safety awareness. Maybe show a video of a .45 hitting a watermelon in class, and follow up with if you do not properly respect firearms, and lock them up from children that are too young to teach the topic of firearm safety this could happen to you or them. Those that are older need to be exposed to the topic, and how to deal with those found at a friends home, the street etc. Do not touch, what to do if your friend has one, what to do/not to do if your suddenly handed one.



I don't disagree. I have previously stated that I believe training should be required as part of gun ownership and definitely as part of a concealed (or open) carry.

Editted to add: The gun lobby is generally not in favour of any of this though. It makes it a bit more difficult to acquire guns, which is something they could never support.

A smart gun for instance could have made a difference in this situation. Smart guns tend to be actively resisted.

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A smart gun for instance could have made a difference in this situation. Smart guns tend to be actively resisted.



Its because the idea of having to have a watch on for your gun to work does not work in a real world situation where life and death matter.

In this situation yes it would have worked, maybe. Whats the required proximity of the watch to the gun? If mom wasnt paying attention and had her watch hand on the buggy handle and that was close enough it wouldnt have mattered. In a cop situation, how tough are these watches? Ever been in a on the ground rolling around fight with another man? Clothes get ripped, watches get torn off. Then what? Its not the NRA its the people that realize this way to go about it is bullshit. I would rather see an implanted RFID into both hands that would operate the gun, but implanted RFID into humans has been shown to cause cancer and growths, so good luck with that. Then what fingerprints? Thats gonna work real well with gloves, or covered in dust and mud.

The watch thing would be great for casual sport guns, but not real life personal defense weapons.

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Mandatory jail time for all DUI convictions



This a million times. Its a daily occurance in the police and fire briefs to see people in Louisiana arrested for multiple offenses. Obviously did not learn their lesson the first couple times.

There was a guy I graduated with that killed 7 people driving home drunk from a golf course. When he was sentenced they left out his prior 3 DWI.......

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CLINTON - The family of seven people who died in a drunk driving crash last year want the killer, Brett Gerald, sentenced again.

They are upset because Gerald's prior DWI arrests were left out of court paperwork at the time he was initially sentenced in March.

Brett Gerald killed seven people when he drove drunk in Slaughter in May of 2012. He was sentenced to 70 years in March after pleading guilty to seven counts of vehicular homicide. However, he was re-sentenced in May to half the time after Supreme Court issued new sentencing guidelines for DWI offenders. Gerald's attorney is appealing that ruling, calling the sentence excessive.

Gerald's three prior DWIs were left out of the case file during his sentencing and re-sentencing this year.



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