mpohl 1 #1 December 31, 2014 Now, if just all toddlers would kill their gun-addicted parents, we'd have a better, less violent, society !!! I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! A woman was killed in an Idaho Wal-Mart Tuesday morning when her 2-year-old son accidentally shot her, according to local authorities. Kootenai County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Lt. Stu Miller said in a statement that the boy was seated in a shopping cart when he reached into his mother’s purse and fired the gun. The 29-year-old woman, who deputies found dead on the scene “from an apparent gunshot wound,” had been shopping with the toddler and other family members, Miller said. The shooting “appears to be accidental” and authorities will identify the woman after her family has been notified, Miller said. Authorities on the scene said three other children were with the woman, and that she had a permit for her concealed weapon, CBS affiliate KREM reported. The woman was visiting from out of town, and the shooting took place as she was in the electronics section of the Wal-Mart in Hayden, ABC affiliate KXLY reported. The store in northern Idaho was evacuated after the shooting, and Miller said it will remain closed until Wednesday morning. “A very sad incident occurred at our store today involving the death of a female customer,” Wal-Mart said in a statement, KREM reported. “We are fully cooperating with the Kootenai County Sheriff’s deputies as they investigate this matter.” Although accidental shootings by children do happen in the United States, there isn’t comprehensive data showing how often they occur, The Post has previously reported. [This post has been updated] Elahe Izadi is a general assignment national Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #2 December 31, 2014 mpohl Now, if just all toddlers would kill their gun-addicted parents, we'd have a better, less violent, society !!! I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! Well hey, at least you are ok with paracide, and kids living with death as a mistake. You are SO LIBERAL!I bet all your liberal buddies look up to you. I'm glad you advocate for the accidental murder of people. It shows your true self. As well as those like you.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #3 December 31, 2014 Enlighten me! What is the reason to carry a loaded gun into a WM, on a family shopping trip, weekday morning? If ID is that unsafe, in daytime during the week no less, we just need to call in the Army/ Reserve to restore law and order! Obviously that is not a job to be entrusted to a 29-year old. And spare me the right to carry arms shit. She had the right, exercised it, died for it! You think she would make a different choice, given a second chance? P.S.: The real victim is the toddler. Who you and your buddies sacrifice on the altar of the second amendment. SHAME ON YOU! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #4 December 31, 2014 Shouldn't even be reported. What happens in Wal Mart stays in Wal Mart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 December 31, 2014 If only Kinder Eggs were legal....scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigbey 0 #6 December 31, 2014 QuoteWhat happens in Wal Mart stays in Wal Mart. http://www.peopleofwalmart.com Is it too late to get a picture of the mom from Idaho? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #7 December 31, 2014 Those chocolate eggs are way too dangerous. Of course, a bullet is the same size as one of the toys found inside the eggs. Go figure! P.S.: Nobody has ever died from a toy-filled chocolate egg. But they are illegal in the US. Bullets, on the other hand, are perfectly acceptable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #8 December 31, 2014 mpohlI don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! mpohlP.S.: The real victim is the toddler. Jeez, What do you have against toddlers? turtlespeed...advocate for the accidental murder of people. "accidental murder" is an oxymoron. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #9 December 31, 2014 champu***I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! mpohlP.S.: The real victim is the toddler. Jeez, What do you have against toddlers? Do you not understand how screwed up the kid is going to be for the rest of his life knowing he killed his own mother? Come on...quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #10 December 31, 2014 champu ***I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! mpohl P.S.: The real victim is the toddler. Jeez, What do you have against toddlers? turtlespeed ...advocate for the accidental murder of people. "accidental murder" is an oxymoron. Quote http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/murder Murder The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Unless you think the killing was lawful.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 December 31, 2014 quade ******I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! mpohl P.S.: The real victim is the toddler. Jeez, What do you have against toddlers? Do you not understand how screwed up the kid is going to be for the rest of his life knowing he killed his own mother? Come on... I believe I covered that in the first response."Well hey, at least you are ok with paracide, and kids living with death as a mistake. "I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #12 December 31, 2014 TS. You and your ilk are being evasive. Why does a 29-yr old need to carry a gun, on a weekday morning, on a family shopping trip to WM? I am awaiting your answer! Also, you think she happily died exercising her second amendment rights? Or you think she would reconsider now and rather live another day? I am awaiting your answer! turtlespeed *********I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! mpohl P.S.: The real victim is the toddler. Jeez, What do you have against toddlers? Do you not understand how screwed up the kid is going to be for the rest of his life knowing he killed his own mother? Come on... I believe I covered that in the first response."Well hey, at least you are ok with paracide, and kids living with death as a mistake. " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #13 December 31, 2014 quade******I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! mpohlP.S.: The real victim is the toddler. Jeez, What do you have against toddlers? Do you not understand how screwed up the kid is going to be for the rest of his life knowing he killed his own mother? Come on... No Paul, I'm apparently a moron and didn't understand that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,560 #14 December 31, 2014 She doesn't need to. She chooses to. Just as people sometimes drive when it's less than a mile to go somewhere and it's pretty out, or they have a drink of wine, or any one of a number of other non-mandatory things. They bounce skydiving, too. And she would be one of the prices of how some people define freedom. One discussion is whether the price is too high. That's a very valid discussion. There's disagreement, but this is part of that price. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #15 December 31, 2014 I think you trying to make a connection between skydiving (freedom to bounce) and carrying guns (freedom to what?), is a stretch. Actually it is more than a stretch. Jumping out of an airplane for personal fulfillment and accepting the associated risks. That's very different from carrying a tool whose only intended purpose is to kill and maim. wmw999She doesn't need to. She chooses to. Just as people sometimes drive when it's less than a mile to go somewhere and it's pretty out, or they have a drink of wine, or any one of a number of other non-mandatory things. They bounce skydiving, too. And she would be one of the prices of how some people define freedom. One discussion is whether the price is too high. That's a very valid discussion. There's disagreement, but this is part of that price. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #16 December 31, 2014 mpohl Why does a 29-yr old need to carry a gun, on a weekday morning, on a family shopping trip to WM? I am awaiting your answer! Do you understand the concept of emergency equipment that is carried when there is no expectation of immediate need? Examples: - Smoke detectors - Fire Extinguishers - Reserve parachutes - Hook knives - Aircraft flotation devices - Emergency O2 - Automotive air bags - Spare tires"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 December 31, 2014 craigbey Is it too late to get a picture of the mom from Idaho? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2891673/Police-Boy-2-accidentally-kills-mom-Wal-Mart.html"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #18 December 31, 2014 turtlespeed ***"accidental murder" is an oxymoron. http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/murder The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. Unless you think the killing was lawful. I would ask if you had read any further than that sentence in your link, but let's start with, "Did you read all the way to the end of that sentence from your link?" ...apologizing in advance for being a smart-ass. I generally don't like spiraling conversations into the ground, but have I really not been posting here long enough that I get these kinds of responses from regulars to a post like the one I made above? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #19 December 31, 2014 So, what you are saying is that she was carrying a smoke detector, fire extinguisher, and all the other shit you listed while visiting the WM? Did I get that right???? If not, please refer to my post Dec 30, @5:47, and just answer those two, simple questions. Before engaging in further discussion. ryoder*** Why does a 29-yr old need to carry a gun, on a weekday morning, on a family shopping trip to WM? I am awaiting your answer! Do you understand the concept of emergency equipment that is carried when there is no expectation of immediate need? Examples: - Smoke detectors - Fire Extinguishers - Reserve parachutes - Hook knives - Aircraft flotation devices - Emergency O2 - Automotive air bags - Spare tires Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #20 December 31, 2014 mpohl If not, please refer to my post Dec 30, @5:47, and just answer those two, simple questions. Before engaging in further discussion. I will engage in discussion whenever I please, and if you don't like it, you can leave."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #21 December 31, 2014 mpohl TS. You and your ilk are being evasive. Why does a 29-yr old need to carry a gun, on a weekday morning, on a family shopping trip to WM? I am awaiting your answer! Also, you think she happily died exercising her second amendment rights? Or you think she would reconsider now and rather live another day? I am awaiting your answer! Me and my Ilk. . . you mean the ones that actually do have a heart and wish that this tragedy never happened? Y know, just for educational purposes, I almost wish this was a close family member of yours, and see what you would post then. (Almost . . . but I don't need to have that happen, I already feel sorry enough for you.)As for her motivation . . . well lets see, how much speculation do you intend on needing? Perhaps her uncle is a mean drunk and she pissed him off by taking her own money, that he steals and uses for his booze, to buy diapers for her baby, and she heard that he was on a rampage and looking for her. Is that enough conjecture? Here's more . . . What if she was a target for a serial rapist? The cops didn't believe her, but she wasn't going to let that happen again. Another . . . Her ex boyfriend is stalking her, has left death threats . . . she still needs to feed and clothe the baby and no one left for her to watch the kid, since she lost her job because of the stalking incidents. yet some more . . . she wanted to carry that pistol just as bad as you wanted to drive your car that a child ran out in front of without time to stop, but that kid is dead instead of you, but I would still feel sorry for you, regardless if the child lived or not. Your homework is to find out where she lived, what her neighbors are like, who her ex's are, and live her life for , say the last three to five years, then tell me why she should have NOT been carrying a gun. Until then, shut it.ETA: Why ARE you doing the happy dance that this woman was shot and killed anyway? What does that say to you about your own true character?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mpohl 1 #22 December 31, 2014 With that kind of outlook on the world. Please get some help. And I hope you never carry a gun. SICK! P.S.: You still owe me an answer: You think she died happily? Protecting our second amendment rights? Or do you think that by now, she'd only wished to have lived another day? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GD64 1 #23 December 31, 2014 *** Now, if just all toddlers would kill their gun-addicted parents, we'd have a better, less violent, society !!! I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! Quote That's some pretty cold hearted shit!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 226 #24 December 31, 2014 mpohl With that kind of outlook on the world. Please get some help. And I hope you never carry a gun. SICK! P.S.: You still owe me an answer: You think she died happily? Protecting our second amendment rights? Or do you think that by now, she'd only wish to have lived another day? Because when you are dead, you are dead. What an ignorant question. Why don't you ask Bob Holler's friends if he would rather do that jump over, or if maybe he should have pulled a little higher. I'm sure you would take back any mistakes you made that involved death, or would you? I wonder. And here is WHY I wonder: QuoteNow, if just all toddlers would kill their gun-addicted parents, we'd have a better, less violent, society !!! I cannot believe you are condoning children shooting their parents, THAT is sick. But wait, there's more! Quote I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! Apathy in the face of death. Put THAT on your resume'I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #25 December 31, 2014 [Reply]Why does a 29-yr old need to carry a gun, on a weekday morning, on a family shopping trip to WM? It's not about need. It's about exercising a right. No, she didn't need to have that weapon ith her any more than you needed to put your thoughts out on this forum. Hypothetical: what if you found out that she was beaten and robbed while out shopping five years ago? Would it change any of your thoughts? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #24 December 31, 2014 mpohl With that kind of outlook on the world. Please get some help. And I hope you never carry a gun. SICK! P.S.: You still owe me an answer: You think she died happily? Protecting our second amendment rights? Or do you think that by now, she'd only wish to have lived another day? Because when you are dead, you are dead. What an ignorant question. Why don't you ask Bob Holler's friends if he would rather do that jump over, or if maybe he should have pulled a little higher. I'm sure you would take back any mistakes you made that involved death, or would you? I wonder. And here is WHY I wonder: QuoteNow, if just all toddlers would kill their gun-addicted parents, we'd have a better, less violent, society !!! I cannot believe you are condoning children shooting their parents, THAT is sick. But wait, there's more! Quote I don't feel sorry for the victim. Not one bit!!! Apathy in the face of death. Put THAT on your resume'I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #25 December 31, 2014 [Reply]Why does a 29-yr old need to carry a gun, on a weekday morning, on a family shopping trip to WM? It's not about need. It's about exercising a right. No, she didn't need to have that weapon ith her any more than you needed to put your thoughts out on this forum. Hypothetical: what if you found out that she was beaten and robbed while out shopping five years ago? Would it change any of your thoughts? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites