kallend 2,175 #1 December 26, 2014 Especially about the future. Mitt Romney said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans elect him, he’d get the unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016. Obama won anyway and the unemployment rate dropped below 6% two years faster. Newt Gingrich said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans re-elected the president, gas prices would reach $10 per gallon, while Gingrich would push gas down to $2.50 a gallon. Right now the national average at the pump is a little under $2.38. Tim Pawlenty said trillions of dollars in tax breaks for the rich would boost economic growth to 5% GDP. Obama actually raised taxes on the wealthy and GDP growth reached 5% anyway. Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas in 2012 and 2013, signed a two-part tax package exempting 191,000 businesses from income taxes and lowering the top income tax rate for individuals. Brownback said the cuts would grow the economy and attract new business, so that revenue would spring back quickly. Now Kansas revenues are way down, and job growth remains below the national average. His own budget director says they may have to stop some of the tax cuts from going into effect.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 December 26, 2014 I remember a long time ago a comedian (I don't remember who) was talking about the 1964 presidential election. His monologue ran something like this: I told my friends I was going to vote for Goldwater, but they all warned me: "If you vote for Goldwater, we'll have war!" Well, I didn't listen to them, and voted for him anyway. And they were right; We had war!"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #3 December 26, 2014 QuoteNewt Gingrich said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans re-elected the president, gas prices would reach $10 per gallon, while Gingrich would push gas down to $2.50 a gallon. Right now the national average at the pump is a little under $2.38. Are you implying obama or dems did this? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #4 December 26, 2014 Then again, some people make good calls: www.businessinsider.com/obama-buying-stocks-is-a-potentially-good-deal-2014-12... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #5 December 26, 2014 kallendEspecially about the future. Mitt Romney said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans elect him, he’d get the unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016. Obama won anyway and the unemployment rate dropped below 6% two years faster. Newt Gingrich said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans re-elected the president, gas prices would reach $10 per gallon, while Gingrich would push gas down to $2.50 a gallon. Right now the national average at the pump is a little under $2.38. Tim Pawlenty said trillions of dollars in tax breaks for the rich would boost economic growth to 5% GDP. Obama actually raised taxes on the wealthy and GDP growth reached 5% anyway. Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas in 2012 and 2013, signed a two-part tax package exempting 191,000 businesses from income taxes and lowering the top income tax rate for individuals. Brownback said the cuts would grow the economy and attract new business, so that revenue would spring back quickly. Now Kansas revenues are way down, and job growth remains below the national average. His own budget director says they may have to stop some of the tax cuts from going into effect. You really want to go tit for tat on the predictions Democrats have made?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyMagilla 0 #6 December 27, 2014 None of those things have happened BECAUSE of Obama. They've happened DESPITE Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melch 1 #7 December 28, 2014 I'll have to dig for the articles but there are reasons the OPEC countries (mostly the Saudis) are not acting on the plummeting prices of oil right now...it screws over US Shale oil business, tanks the Iranian and Russian economies and does not cost OPEC anymore than they were spending previously. Global economies and big business drive more politics and outcomes both abroad and domestically than any sitting president. The presidents past and present are usually reactive and usually to the detriment of the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #8 December 28, 2014 Quote Prediction is always difficult Especially about the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #9 December 30, 2014 kallendEspecially about the future. Mitt Romney said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans elect him, he’d get the unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016. Obama won anyway and the unemployment rate dropped below 6% two years faster. Newt Gingrich said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans re-elected the president, gas prices would reach $10 per gallon, while Gingrich would push gas down to $2.50 a gallon. Right now the national average at the pump is a little under $2.38. Tim Pawlenty said trillions of dollars in tax breaks for the rich would boost economic growth to 5% GDP. Obama actually raised taxes on the wealthy and GDP growth reached 5% anyway. Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas in 2012 and 2013, signed a two-part tax package exempting 191,000 businesses from income taxes and lowering the top income tax rate for individuals. Brownback said the cuts would grow the economy and attract new business, so that revenue would spring back quickly. Now Kansas revenues are way down, and job growth remains below the national average. His own budget director says they may have to stop some of the tax cuts from going into effect. And if you like your plan you can keep your plan . . . remember?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #10 December 30, 2014 turtlespeed***Especially about the future. Mitt Romney said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans elect him, he’d get the unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016. Obama won anyway and the unemployment rate dropped below 6% two years faster. Newt Gingrich said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans re-elected the president, gas prices would reach $10 per gallon, while Gingrich would push gas down to $2.50 a gallon. Right now the national average at the pump is a little under $2.38. Tim Pawlenty said trillions of dollars in tax breaks for the rich would boost economic growth to 5% GDP. Obama actually raised taxes on the wealthy and GDP growth reached 5% anyway. Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas in 2012 and 2013, signed a two-part tax package exempting 191,000 businesses from income taxes and lowering the top income tax rate for individuals. Brownback said the cuts would grow the economy and attract new business, so that revenue would spring back quickly. Now Kansas revenues are way down, and job growth remains below the national average. His own budget director says they may have to stop some of the tax cuts from going into effect. And if you like your plan you can keep your plan . . . remember? Smart people made boatloads of money in the last 6 years, so an increase in premiums really shouldn't be a problem. Not my problem if you are too stupid or too lazy to make money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 December 30, 2014 SkyDekker******Especially about the future. Mitt Romney said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans elect him, he’d get the unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016. Obama won anyway and the unemployment rate dropped below 6% two years faster. Newt Gingrich said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans re-elected the president, gas prices would reach $10 per gallon, while Gingrich would push gas down to $2.50 a gallon. Right now the national average at the pump is a little under $2.38. Tim Pawlenty said trillions of dollars in tax breaks for the rich would boost economic growth to 5% GDP. Obama actually raised taxes on the wealthy and GDP growth reached 5% anyway. Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas in 2012 and 2013, signed a two-part tax package exempting 191,000 businesses from income taxes and lowering the top income tax rate for individuals. Brownback said the cuts would grow the economy and attract new business, so that revenue would spring back quickly. Now Kansas revenues are way down, and job growth remains below the national average. His own budget director says they may have to stop some of the tax cuts from going into effect. And if you like your plan you can keep your plan . . . remember? Smart people made boatloads of money in the last 6 years, so an increase in premiums really shouldn't be a problem. Not my problem if you are too stupid or too lazy to make money. So you are OK with all the "other than smart" people being taken like a mark in a scam. GotchaI'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #12 January 5, 2015 QuoteSo you are OK with all the "other than smart" people being taken like a mark in a scam. That is just "survival of the fittest" in a free market capitalist environment. Are you some kind of socialist or something? Depending on the government to hand you everything.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #13 January 5, 2015 Iago Like I've always said, wealthy people continue to get wealthy because they continue do the things that build wealth. Making large donations to politicians comes to mind. We have the best government money can buy.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #14 January 6, 2015 kallend*** Like I've always said, wealthy people continue to get wealthy because they continue do the things that build wealth. Making large donations to politicians comes to mind. We have the best government money can buy. Who is we? Does England buy their Politicians?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #15 January 6, 2015 turtlespeed****** Like I've always said, wealthy people continue to get wealthy because they continue do the things that build wealth. Making large donations to politicians comes to mind. We have the best government money can buy. Who is we? Does England buy their Politicians? Sort of. They get them on Lend Lease from the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #16 January 7, 2015 >Mitt Romney said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans elect him, he’d get the >unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016. Obama won anyway and the unemployment >rate dropped below 6% two years faster. Billionaire CEO David Siegel said that if his employees voted for Obama (and he won) that they could lose their benefits and their jobs. From an email from him: "Of course, as your employer, I can’t tell you whom to vote for . . .but here are a few facts that might help you decide what is in your best interest.” Re-electing Obama would “threaten your job” and result in “less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.” In fact, he said, “rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back.” From a December 2014 email from him: “We’re experiencing the best year in our history and I wanted to do something to show my gratitude for the employees who make that possible. . .things have never been better.” Raises for everyone! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #17 January 7, 2015 billvon >Mitt Romney said during the 2012 campaign that if Americans elect him, he’d get the >unemployment rate down to 6% by 2016. Obama won anyway and the unemployment >rate dropped below 6% two years faster. Billionaire CEO David Siegel said that if his employees voted for Obama (and he won) that they could lose their benefits and their jobs. From an email from him: "Of course, as your employer, I can’t tell you whom to vote for . . .but here are a few facts that might help you decide what is in your best interest.” Re-electing Obama would “threaten your job” and result in “less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.” In fact, he said, “rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back.” From a December 2014 email from him: “We’re experiencing the best year in our history and I wanted to do something to show my gratitude for the employees who make that possible. . .things have never been better.” Raises for everyone! I gather he has re-started work on his Versailles look-alike mansion.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites