Anvilbrother 0 #51 December 23, 2014 Never said any of those things personally, and pro gun advocates never said they wanted to protect illegal or illegally obtained guns on the streets. I'm for eliminating illegal guns, and increasing personal responsibility. That includes not shooting at cops or coming at them with weapons. But start another thread on that if you wish and not try to weasel out of the facts I just posted that once again show you can't compare the U.S. to England, and the 400 murders statement is complete bullshit. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #52 December 23, 2014 For fuck's sake pay attention. I have not compared the US cop shooting numbers to any country. I'm more curious of the militaristic mindset of the police here though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #53 December 23, 2014 No that part was for kallend. Ooh on to tactics, trying to change the subject from the 400 murders comments you guys have slinging around?? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #54 December 23, 2014 No, just came to mind when you mentioned comparison. It is a striking difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #55 December 23, 2014 BillyVance Plus, if we hadn't gone to Europe to fight the Germans, England would have been overrun. So why wasn't England overrun in 1939? 1940? 1941? 1942? 1943? Oh, yes, on Sept. 17, 1940, Hitler permanently canceled the invasion plans after the RAF handed the Luftwaffe a bloody nose in the Battle of Britain. I don't think there were many US troops in England in the fall of 1940. www.nww2m.com/2012/02/operation-sealion-canceled/ Billy, I didn't realize you learned all your history from Hollywood movies. I bet you still believe that the US captured the first Enigma machine from U-571. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,468 #56 December 23, 2014 Hi John, Quotehistory from Hollywood movies Actually, I did not know that anyone had captured one until this movie came out; and the brouhaha that followed it. That got me to reading more on the subject. And 'good on you' Brits, Jerry Baumchen PS) IMO no nation single-handedly won WW II. It was a combined effort of some strange bedfellows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #57 December 23, 2014 JerryBaumchenHi John, Quotehistory from Hollywood movies Actually, I did not know that anyone had captured one until this movie came out; and the brouhaha that followed it. That got me to reading more on the subject. And 'good on you' Brits, Jerry Baumchen PS) IMO no nation single-handedly won WW II. It was a combined effort of some strange bedfellows. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-110_%281940%29 AND the Russians killed more Germans than all the other allies combined.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #58 December 24, 2014 kallend***Hi John, Quotehistory from Hollywood movies Actually, I did not know that anyone had captured one until this movie came out; and the brouhaha that followed it. That got me to reading more on the subject. And 'good on you' Brits, Jerry Baumchen PS) IMO no nation single-handedly won WW II. It was a combined effort of some strange bedfellows. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-110_%281940%29 AND the Russians killed more Germans than all the other allies combined. Who can blame them? Germany had the audacity to invade Russia and try to take Moscow. Thousands and thousands of lives on both sides were lost in that endeavor. Of course Russia had to fight back and help the US and its allies defeat the Nazis."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #59 December 24, 2014 Nope. Before that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #60 December 24, 2014 BillyVance******Hi John, Quotehistory from Hollywood movies Actually, I did not know that anyone had captured one until this movie came out; and the brouhaha that followed it. That got me to reading more on the subject. And 'good on you' Brits, Jerry Baumchen PS) IMO no nation single-handedly won WW II. It was a combined effort of some strange bedfellows. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-110_%281940%29 AND the Russians killed more Germans than all the other allies combined. Who can blame them? Germany had the audacity to invade Russia and try to take Moscow. Thousands and thousands of lives on both sides were lost in that endeavor. Of course Russia had to fight back and help the US and its allies defeat the Nazis. I hope this was a joke. Russia was fully engaged LONG before any US troops were in Europe. Stalingrad was a major defeat of the Germans (entire 6th Army defeated, 850,000 casualties) before a single US soldier set foot in occupied Europe. A more accurate statement is that the US and its allies helped Russia defeat the Nazis.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #61 December 24, 2014 kallendA more accurate statement is that the US and its allies helped Russia defeat the Nazis. Russia's scorched earth tactic was likely one of the biggest contributors to the team effort that defeated the Nazi's for sure. I'm not even sure why you guys are pissing on this topic. I don't think the Nazi's (and their allies) would have been beat if any of the players hadn't stepped in. Certainly the US couldn't have done it alone (as was implied earlier), but certainly we would have failed had the US NOT come in either (as the counter arguments seem to so desperately wish) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #62 December 24, 2014 rehmwa***A more accurate statement is that the US and its allies helped Russia defeat the Nazis. Russia's scorched earth tactic was likely one of the biggest contributors to the team effort that defeated the Nazi's for sure. I'm not even sure why you guys are pissing on this topic. I don't think the Nazi's (and their allies) would have been beat if any of the players hadn't stepped in. Certainly the US couldn't have done it alone (as was implied earlier), but certainly we would have failed had the US NOT come in either (as the counter arguments seem to so desperately wish) Well, a consensus of historians is that Hitler's goose was cooked when he invaded Russia in the summer of 1941; it just would have taken 2 years longer without the US. It's easy to play "what if?" What if the UK had lost the Battle of Britain? What if the Enigma code hadn't been broken? What if the Italians had succeeded in Greece so Hitler didn't have to delay Barbarossa? Which leads to: What if the Germans had taken Moscow before the winter stopped their advance? What if Rommel hadn't been stopped at El Alamein but had gone on to take the Suez Canal? What if the V1 and V2 programs had received adequate support so the Germans could have bombarded the invasion ports? What if the Me262 had been used as a fighter? etc, etc, etc.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
