What do we want? Dead Cops! When do we want it? NOW!!!!

[Andy9o8 2]

You know, it's funny - it doesn't escape my notice that the people on these boards who most frequently remind us (I think correctly) that the 2nd Amendment preserves freedom by enabling The People to fight tyranny by using means necessary to actively resist an oppressive government are usually the same ones who bitch the loudest outrage when it's black people who actually do that.

[normiss 892]

The sleeping guy in Milwaukee surely appreciates the perma-nap the killer cop gave him.
These are all thugs that needed killing.
Why doesn't the populace understand that?

[bigbearfng 18]

SkyDekker

***Go to the list of shootings like I did and go down the list with a pen and paper LIKE I DID. Next to each shooting write down the nature of the shooting, and if you think the cop acted in response to a lethal action upon him, or a citizen. Or if the cop was an illegal aggressor and shot someone in cold blood.


I did that instead of listening to bullshit numbers spouted here, or from click bait media. You will find that out of those 400+- shootings that 80-90% of the time the shooting was in response to
-People shooting at the cops
-People attempting vehicular homicide on the cops
-Hostages
-Other situations where if you actually read the report yourself you would agree it was justified.

At the end of reading the IIRC 2011 list of shootings there was only about 10 killings that was and I even stated illegal as fuck. Most of them were charged, some already in prison, some awaiting trial.

Without more information it is a stupid exercise.

Take the 12 year old in Cleveland. The way the police handled the situation it is a justified shooting.

Most sane people realize that if the police had handled the situation with tact that 12 year old would likely still be alive.

So, in the US that is a justified shooting. In the rest of the modern world that shooting would not have taken place.


So easy to be a "Monday morning quarterback"...........
Yup, hindsight is always 20/20.

[Anvilbrother 0]

Reply applies to you also Sky

The numerous availability to guns in the US legal and illegal means cops are going to be faced against them more often than in England on a direct front and indirect threat front. Its pretty simple. Just look at the LOD deaths this year the leading cause of officer deaths is gunfights with suspects.
http://www.odmp.org/search/year

You say murder, but cops only murder a fraction of the alleged 400 people shot. The other shootings are mostly against citizens using the widely available legal and illegal guns against cops or others. Something you clearly do not have in England.

Since everyone here is too lazy to do it themselves. I will show you what some of the people shot by officers were doing at the time. From the list of 2011 shootings on wiki.

-Shot after assaulting police officer with weapons
-Shot during struggle with officer after Gilyard reached for the officer's handgun.
-Muncie was shot an killed after allegedly wounding three police officers
-Shot while stabbing her own four-year-old daughter to death and refusing commands to put down a knife.
-Welling allegedly put the car in reverse and drove toward the officer, who fired at him several times.
-Shot and killed by a Sebastopol Police Department officer after pulling a revolver from his waistband
-Shot and killed while running from and pointing a gun at an officer.
-Shot in police parking lot when the man came at the officer with a knife
-Shot after shooting at police
- Shot after aiming gun at police.
-Shot after touching his own gun during a meeting to exchange child pornography with undercover federal officials.
-Shot after striking a police officer with vehicle
-shot to death less than a block from him home after refusing to drop his gun.
-Shot after reaching for gun in glove box after resisting arrest.
-Shot after ignoring command to drop weapon and then firing on police
-Shot after ignoring commands to drop weapon and pointing gun at police
-Shot after firing on police.
-Shot after robbing bank, killing an officer with vehicle while fleeing, and firing on police.
-Shot after fatally shooting police officer. Post was wanted on felony charges of shooting at his boss
-Shot after non-fatally shooting associate and refusing to drop weapon.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife and lunging at police officers.'
-Shot after pointing a handgun at police
-Shot after two-hour standoff with police and pointing shotgun at police.
-Shot after shooting near school and shooting at police.
-Shot during shootout with police following bank robbery, car jacking and chase.
-Shot after ignoring deputy commands and setting room on fire. Police were responding to report that Martin threatened to set his wife on fire. Martin had doused her and their home with gasoline
-Hull was shot to death after shooting and injuring a police officer
-Shot while burglarizing the home of an Atlanta police officer.
-Shot after attempting to stab a police officer.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife
-Shot after attacking and grabbing an officer's gun. Another officer told the assailant to drop the gun. The assailant instead pointed the gun at the other officer who then shot him.
-Shot by SWAT team during standoff. The man had shot at a neighbor who called police. As the police arrived, the man shot at them, then barricaded himself inside his home
-Shot after refusing to drop knife and shotgun
-Shot after having a said shootout with police while holding a pistol and attempting to escape in a car.
-Shot after firing at police
-Shot after punching plainclothes officer several times and reaching for knife.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife. Police arrived after Alfred had stabbed another man to death
-Shot after refusing to drop shotgun and approaching officers
-Shot while reaching for handgun while being chased by police
-Shot after struggle with police and reaching for gun in waistband.
-Shot after shooting at police.
-Shot after shooting at police
-After Olivas refused to drop the knife and continued advancing toward officers despite being shot with beanbags, officers shot the man to death
-Shot to death by officers after allegedly pointing a gun at them
-Shot during attempted prison escape. Drove a forklift through one set of doors then into the prison's perimeter fences
-Shot after shooting at officers.
-Shot after refusing to drop weapon
- Shot after car chase and firing a shot.
-Shot after exiting vehicle with shotgun or rifle in hand.
-Shot during an aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer
-Shot during armed robbery of store and after shooting at police.
-Shot after refusing to drop weapon.
-Shot after pulling out a gun and shooting at officers.
-Shot during armed robbery of store and after shooting at police
-Shot after a report of an armed robbery with a sword
-Shot after pointing gun at state trooper.
-Shot after lunging at officers with axe
-Shot after pointing a handgun at officers.
-Shot after advancing on police with knife in hand and refusing commands to drop weapon
-Shot after refusing to lay down a machete Sampson had used to strike an officer's car
-Shot after firing on police, wounding officer and taking a family of four hostage
-Shot in vehicle after shooting at police to include one shot to police officer's arm
-Shot by two Nassau County Police officers when he lunged at them with knives
-Shot after producing a weapon.
-Shot after striking deputy in head with a hammer.
-Shot after firing on police with two pistols.
-Shot after raising gun at officers.
-Shot after point a handgun at officer.
-Shot after confronting deputy with a shotgun.
-Shot after refusing to stop stabbing another man on the ground
-Shot after shooting three times at police.
-Shot after fatally shooting two police officers,
-Shot after pointing gun at police
-Died in a shootout that also killed two Miami-Dade Police Department detectives
-Shot after repeatedgly striking police officers and attempting to take their guns
-Shot in vehicle after dragging police officer with vehicle.
-Shot as approaching officer with knife raised in overhand grip.


For fucks sake can you please stop saying cops murder 400 people per year. This list of actions from 2011 clearly show that majority of the time when a cops shoots someone its because they were doing something that legally justified the use of deadly force.

Also for fucks sake please stop comparing the US to England. Please show me a list of people doing the same shit to officers there like I have shown you happens to officers in the US.

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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The numerous availability to guns in the US legal and illegal means cops are going to be faced against them more often than in England on a direct front and indirect threat front. Its pretty simple. Just look at the LOD deaths this year the leading cause of officer deaths is gunfights with suspects.

So you agree that teh easy and wide availability of guns is to blame for this violence?

I thought guns didn't kill people, but people killed people?

Why are you using the availability of guns as an excuse for violence? When it comes to gun-rights you argue the complete opposite of the position you are taking now.

[normiss 892]

How many of those "justified" shootings were manipulated facts and evidence?
325 and counting on those convicted with lies, corruption, falsification of evidence and facts.
I'm curious how many of those data points intersect.

Your still fighting against the fact that most citizens have lost confidence in our cops.

[rushmc 23]

Andy9o8

.... the same ones who bitch the loudest outrage when it's black people who actually do that.

I would like to see your examples

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Anvilbrother 0]

Wrong wrong wrong keep trying to redirect off the facts it shows your wrong.

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[rushmc 23]

normiss

How many of those "justified" shootings were manipulated facts and evidence?
325 and counting on those convicted with lies, corruption, falsification of evidence and facts.
I'm curious how many of those data points intersect.

Your still fighting against the fact that most citizens have lost confidence in our cops.

If you really believe what you post here, then you should NOT be supportive of the Dem Senate report on torture

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Anvilbrother 0]

But but but they could have lied to us.....shitty excuse man. Get your tin foil hat retuned your off frequency. LE diddnt wag the dog on all those shootings I posted.

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[normiss 892]

They justified the dog though didn't they?

[Anvilbrother 0]

??Seriously man might I suggest getting a new tin foil hat, yours seems to be broken completely.

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[normiss 892]

You have an impressive ability to ignore what's happening across our country right now.
It's not just me.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

You have an impressive ability to ignore what's happening across our country right now.
It's not just me.

The impressive ability is those like you (and the others you post about here) blowing this up into something it is not.

White cops are NOT killing unarmed black men and women regularly. but this is not the impression you want to pass

BHO, Holder, de Blasio and Sharpton have blood on their hands right now
For what?
A lie and political points
And you seem to somehow want to justify this
Sickening

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Anvilbrother 0]

Quote

The impressive ability is those like you (and the others you post about here) blowing this up into something it is not.

White cops are NOT killing unarmed black men and women regularly. but this is not the impression you want to pass

EXACTLY! Thanks rush I was getting bored with him.

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[normiss 892]

"White cops are NOT killing unarmed black men and women regularly. but this is not the impression you want to pass "

I've not said that.

You fellers go ahead and stick your head in the sand, it appears to serve you well.

[rushmc 23]

normiss

You fellers go ahead and stick your head in the sand, it appears to serve you well.

I did not say you said that
But you give the impression you support that bs
oh
And the only time I would stick my head into the sand would be to talk to you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Anvilbrother 0]

You already need a refresher
-Shot after assaulting police officer with weapons
-Shot during struggle with officer after Gilyard reached for the officer's handgun.
-Muncie was shot an killed after allegedly wounding three police officers
-Shot while stabbing her own four-year-old daughter to death and refusing commands to put down a knife.
-Welling allegedly put the car in reverse and drove toward the officer, who fired at him several times.
-Shot and killed by a Sebastopol Police Department officer after pulling a revolver from his waistband
-Shot and killed while running from and pointing a gun at an officer.
-Shot in police parking lot when the man came at the officer with a knife
-Shot after shooting at police
- Shot after aiming gun at police.
-Shot after touching his own gun during a meeting to exchange child pornography with undercover federal officials.
-Shot after striking a police officer with vehicle
-shot to death less than a block from him home after refusing to drop his gun.
-Shot after reaching for gun in glove box after resisting arrest.
-Shot after ignoring command to drop weapon and then firing on police
-Shot after ignoring commands to drop weapon and pointing gun at police
-Shot after firing on police.
-Shot after robbing bank, killing an officer with vehicle while fleeing, and firing on police.
-Shot after fatally shooting police officer. Post was wanted on felony charges of shooting at his boss
-Shot after non-fatally shooting associate and refusing to drop weapon.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife and lunging at police officers.'
-Shot after pointing a handgun at police
-Shot after two-hour standoff with police and pointing shotgun at police.
-Shot after shooting near school and shooting at police.
-Shot during shootout with police following bank robbery, car jacking and chase.
-Shot after ignoring deputy commands and setting room on fire. Police were responding to report that Martin threatened to set his wife on fire. Martin had doused her and their home with gasoline
-Hull was shot to death after shooting and injuring a police officer
-Shot while burglarizing the home of an Atlanta police officer.
-Shot after attempting to stab a police officer.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife
-Shot after attacking and grabbing an officer's gun. Another officer told the assailant to drop the gun. The assailant instead pointed the gun at the other officer who then shot him.
-Shot by SWAT team during standoff. The man had shot at a neighbor who called police. As the police arrived, the man shot at them, then barricaded himself inside his home
-Shot after refusing to drop knife and shotgun
-Shot after having a said shootout with police while holding a pistol and attempting to escape in a car.
-Shot after firing at police
-Shot after punching plainclothes officer several times and reaching for knife.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife. Police arrived after Alfred had stabbed another man to death
-Shot after refusing to drop shotgun and approaching officers
-Shot while reaching for handgun while being chased by police
-Shot after struggle with police and reaching for gun in waistband.
-Shot after shooting at police.
-Shot after shooting at police
-After Olivas refused to drop the knife and continued advancing toward officers despite being shot with beanbags, officers shot the man to death
-Shot to death by officers after allegedly pointing a gun at them
-Shot during attempted prison escape. Drove a forklift through one set of doors then into the prison's perimeter fences
-Shot after shooting at officers.
-Shot after refusing to drop weapon
- Shot after car chase and firing a shot.
-Shot after exiting vehicle with shotgun or rifle in hand.
-Shot during an aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer
-Shot during armed robbery of store and after shooting at police.
-Shot after refusing to drop weapon.
-Shot after pulling out a gun and shooting at officers.
-Shot during armed robbery of store and after shooting at police
-Shot after a report of an armed robbery with a sword
-Shot after pointing gun at state trooper.
-Shot after lunging at officers with axe
-Shot after pointing a handgun at officers.
-Shot after advancing on police with knife in hand and refusing commands to drop weapon
-Shot after refusing to lay down a machete Sampson had used to strike an officer's car
-Shot after firing on police, wounding officer and taking a family of four hostage
-Shot in vehicle after shooting at police to include one shot to police officer's arm
-Shot by two Nassau County Police officers when he lunged at them with knives
-Shot after producing a weapon.
-Shot after striking deputy in head with a hammer.
-Shot after firing on police with two pistols.
-Shot after raising gun at officers.
-Shot after point a handgun at officer.
-Shot after confronting deputy with a shotgun.
-Shot after refusing to stop stabbing another man on the ground
-Shot after shooting three times at police.
-Shot after fatally shooting two police officers,
-Shot after pointing gun at police
-Died in a shootout that also killed two Miami-Dade Police Department detectives
-Shot after repeatedgly striking police officers and attempting to take their guns
-Shot in vehicle after dragging police officer with vehicle.
-Shot as approaching officer with knife raised in overhand grip.

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[normiss 892]

I have much more interesting and on point discussions about this subject when drinking beers with the mayor and chief of police here.
You should see the stuff they've had to deal with.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

Anvilbrother

You already need a refresher
-Shot after assaulting police officer with weapons
-Shot during struggle with officer after Gilyard reached for the officer's handgun.
-Muncie was shot an killed after allegedly wounding three police officers
-Shot while stabbing her own four-year-old daughter to death and refusing commands to put down a knife.
-Welling allegedly put the car in reverse and drove toward the officer, who fired at him several times.
-Shot and killed by a Sebastopol Police Department officer after pulling a revolver from his waistband
-Shot and killed while running from and pointing a gun at an officer.
-Shot in police parking lot when the man came at the officer with a knife
-Shot after shooting at police
- Shot after aiming gun at police.
-Shot after touching his own gun during a meeting to exchange child pornography with undercover federal officials.
-Shot after striking a police officer with vehicle
-shot to death less than a block from him home after refusing to drop his gun.
-Shot after reaching for gun in glove box after resisting arrest.
-Shot after ignoring command to drop weapon and then firing on police
-Shot after ignoring commands to drop weapon and pointing gun at police
-Shot after firing on police.
-Shot after robbing bank, killing an officer with vehicle while fleeing, and firing on police.
-Shot after fatally shooting police officer. Post was wanted on felony charges of shooting at his boss
-Shot after non-fatally shooting associate and refusing to drop weapon.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife and lunging at police officers.'
-Shot after pointing a handgun at police
-Shot after two-hour standoff with police and pointing shotgun at police.
-Shot after shooting near school and shooting at police.
-Shot during shootout with police following bank robbery, car jacking and chase.
-Shot after ignoring deputy commands and setting room on fire. Police were responding to report that Martin threatened to set his wife on fire. Martin had doused her and their home with gasoline
-Hull was shot to death after shooting and injuring a police officer
-Shot while burglarizing the home of an Atlanta police officer.
-Shot after attempting to stab a police officer.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife
-Shot after attacking and grabbing an officer's gun. Another officer told the assailant to drop the gun. The assailant instead pointed the gun at the other officer who then shot him.
-Shot by SWAT team during standoff. The man had shot at a neighbor who called police. As the police arrived, the man shot at them, then barricaded himself inside his home
-Shot after refusing to drop knife and shotgun
-Shot after having a said shootout with police while holding a pistol and attempting to escape in a car.
-Shot after firing at police
-Shot after punching plainclothes officer several times and reaching for knife.
-Shot after refusing to drop knife. Police arrived after Alfred had stabbed another man to death
-Shot after refusing to drop shotgun and approaching officers
-Shot while reaching for handgun while being chased by police
-Shot after struggle with police and reaching for gun in waistband.
-Shot after shooting at police.
-Shot after shooting at police
-After Olivas refused to drop the knife and continued advancing toward officers despite being shot with beanbags, officers shot the man to death
-Shot to death by officers after allegedly pointing a gun at them
-Shot during attempted prison escape. Drove a forklift through one set of doors then into the prison's perimeter fences
-Shot after shooting at officers.
-Shot after refusing to drop weapon
- Shot after car chase and firing a shot.
-Shot after exiting vehicle with shotgun or rifle in hand.
-Shot during an aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer
-Shot during armed robbery of store and after shooting at police.
-Shot after refusing to drop weapon.
-Shot after pulling out a gun and shooting at officers.
-Shot during armed robbery of store and after shooting at police
-Shot after a report of an armed robbery with a sword
-Shot after pointing gun at state trooper.
-Shot after lunging at officers with axe
-Shot after pointing a handgun at officers.
-Shot after advancing on police with knife in hand and refusing commands to drop weapon
-Shot after refusing to lay down a machete Sampson had used to strike an officer's car
-Shot after firing on police, wounding officer and taking a family of four hostage
-Shot in vehicle after shooting at police to include one shot to police officer's arm
-Shot by two Nassau County Police officers when he lunged at them with knives
-Shot after producing a weapon.
-Shot after striking deputy in head with a hammer.
-Shot after firing on police with two pistols.
-Shot after raising gun at officers.
-Shot after point a handgun at officer.
-Shot after confronting deputy with a shotgun.
-Shot after refusing to stop stabbing another man on the ground
-Shot after shooting three times at police.
-Shot after fatally shooting two police officers,
-Shot after pointing gun at police
-Died in a shootout that also killed two Miami-Dade Police Department detectives
-Shot after repeatedgly striking police officers and attempting to take their guns
-Shot in vehicle after dragging police officer with vehicle.
-Shot as approaching officer with knife raised in overhand grip.

I guess Americans tend to be more violent psychopaths than other cultures then.

[Anvilbrother 0]

I guess so. What other country has a list like the one I have provided......

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[Anvilbrother 0]

Oooh ahh wow neat......what does that have to do with the fact you can't defend your often occurring statement that cops are murdering us all to death? What was the percent like .0000013 or something?

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[normiss 892]

I never claimed that.

I have a problem with our police forces shooting us every bit as much as I have issues with criminals shooting us, ALL of us.
Why the police continue to force us into submission and carry a violent us vs. them attitude should be an issue for everyone to be concerned with. Cops are becoming legally authorized thugs to some degree.
I have issues with all that.

I feel that's a much better approach than justifying it as an acceptable norm.

If you can't see or simply refuse to see those problems, then it's my guess you're part of the problem. Which means we'll be here again.

[Anvilbrother 0]

It's not out of control. Do you know anyone personally that wasn't doing anything illegal and was shot, or beat, or tazed, or illegally jailed, etc? your being led to believe that by the media and the left. Never let a good shooting go to waste.....

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[Andy9o8 2]

Anvilbrother

It's not out of control. Do you know anyone personally that wasn't doing anything illegal and was shot, or beat, or tazed, or illegally jailed, etc? ...

I know quite a few (several dozen) in the beat, tazed or illegally jailed categories. A couple in the shot categories. It's just a matter of being in the right place to know them, and to know (not presume - know) the actual facts.